Russian Navy Discussions and Updates
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The Russian navy is going to conduct a massive training exercise in the Mediterrenean at the end of January involving ships from Northern,Pacific,Baltic fleets.The official reason is to evaluate and fine tune join combat tactics.But analysts say it is an excuse to evacuate the Russian citizens from Syria. Personally I think it is a combination of both
Strangelove
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It could be either yes, but they are using (I count) 6 landing ships, as well as 3 oilers. That means sticking around for some time, giving them flexibility, and the emphasis - whether training or an operation - is on amphibious capability.
Strangelove
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Moskva cruiser is in the Med. Plus task groups from the Black Sea, Baltic and Northern fleets. 4 or 5 Ropucha class landing ship and one other landing ship. I've written a blog analysis on it but the forum won't let me post the link until I've posted ten times. Google "strangelove russia syria" and you'll find it. Please post the link if it answers your questions.
Sandhi Yudha
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At last, thanks for the update!
Some more news, an upgrade program for all the project 971 Akulas is in the works, with the contract given to Zvezdochka. A contract for the first two boats is already signed.
http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-273.html
EDIT: Well it looks like the Bulava-30 has been accepted for service.
http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/27454/
As has a small tug boat for the Baltic Fleet (RB-395).
http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/27449/
A second Ka-31R helo was handed over to the Eysk training center.
http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/22419/
In principle it's good news, but really they need far more helos then that.
http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-273.html
EDIT: Well it looks like the Bulava-30 has been accepted for service.
http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/27454/
As has a small tug boat for the Baltic Fleet (RB-395).
http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/27449/
A second Ka-31R helo was handed over to the Eysk training center.
http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/22419/
In principle it's good news, but really they need far more helos then that.
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Its not of course. Bulava has been accepted into service with its carrier.
Some info on the new destroyer project. It will be a Moskva-sized ship (in other words displacement of ~12 000 tons) and will be a universal ship serving both as an AShM carrier, ASW, and AAW. It will even carry anti-missile systems (and by this I think they mean ship-mounted BMD) on the basis of the S-500. The primary purpose of this ship will be to protect the Mistral class and future aircraft carriers on long range expeditions.
Lenta.ru:
Severnaya and Baltiyskiy Zavod are expected to produce a series of 6 of these ships, with the first to be laid down in 2016. The design is being done by KB Severnoe.
Among other news, a patrol ship the construction of which was halted 11 years ago will be finished as a training platform for projects 20380, 22350 and 11356.
Lenta.ru:
Also the small artillery ship of the Buyan project, Mahachkala, will finally join the Caspian fleet. Its handover was delayed last year because the A-190 artillery system was not delivered on time.
Lenta.ru:
Lenta.ru:
Severnaya and Baltiyskiy Zavod are expected to produce a series of 6 of these ships, with the first to be laid down in 2016. The design is being done by KB Severnoe.
Among other news, a patrol ship the construction of which was halted 11 years ago will be finished as a training platform for projects 20380, 22350 and 11356.
Lenta.ru:
Also the small artillery ship of the Buyan project, Mahachkala, will finally join the Caspian fleet. Its handover was delayed last year because the A-190 artillery system was not delivered on time.
Lenta.ru:
alexkvaskov
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I wonder how long it will take them to complete the lead ship. The design isn't even complete yet, correct? But in any case this is a capability the Russian navy desperately needs, hopefully they will end up commissioning more than 6 ships. Any news on the Kirov modernization? Current plans call for at least one ship to be modernized by 2020, IIRC. Do they have any plans for modernizing any of the current destroyers in service?
Honestly, we have no idea. But I think you're right. It's probably not.
We'll see, but if the project goes ahead you should consider that the entire VMF only has 3 project 1164 ships. This is a new destroyer of the same size as those cruisers. 6 is fairly ambitious by that standard. Given that they're meant initially as escorts for the Mistrals, 6 makes sense. 3 for each, to make a task force. Depending on whether they can successfully develop the expeditionary warfare capability they're working on there will or won't be follow-on orders for both the new destroyers and the Mistrals.
The Kirov plans should have gone ahead last year. There was news that the design work was proceeding last year, that's all I recall off the top of my head.
Looks like the unfinshed Tuman frigate could become operational with the Russian navy.
Acourding to this article the ship will be finished as some kind of anti-submarine warship.
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Acourding to this article the ship will be finished as some kind of anti-submarine warship.
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Two submarines from the Sierra class looks like they are to get an extencive overhaul and re-enter the navy again .
Russia to Resurrect Titanium Submarines | Defense | RIA Novosti
Russia to Resurrect Titanium Submarines | Defense | RIA Novosti
All 4 are supposed to get overhauled and returned to the 7th Submarine Division. They will also get modernized with new hydroacounstic stations, Club-S missiles, new onboard computers and GLONASS. The first two are already contracted.
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Mahachkala is finally getting handed over to the Caspian flotilla. This makes for 3 Buyan-class in service, all in the Caspian. They're definitely putting the most into re-arming Caspian flotilla, and Black Sea Fleet. Those two are going to have the most modern complement of ships by a long long way. Here's a nice photoset from the Mahachkala.
Фото - Первый подъем флага ВМФ на ÐœÐК "Махачкала"
Lenta.ru:
Mahachkala is finally getting handed over to the Caspian flotilla. This makes for 3 Buyan-class in service, all in the Caspian. They're definitely putting the most into re-arming Caspian flotilla, and Black Sea Fleet. Those two are going to have the most modern complement of ships by a long long way. Here's a nice photoset from the Mahachkala.
Фото - Первый подъем флага ВМФ на ÐœÐК "Махачкала"
alexkvaskov
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With the 12 Akula's slated to receive upgrades and 5-7 Yasen subs to enter service in the next years, the future looks positively rosy for the sub fleet. Are they planning to upgrade the Oscar's?
Good question. I suspect that certain upgrades are worked into the overhauls they're undergoing right now. As far as I know there is no major upgrade program currently. Also no. Things are not looking rosy. The original plans called for way more Yasen' class. However they realized they don't have money for that, so instead they're cutting numbers in the Yasen' program in favor of keeping more old subs in service after upgrades.
Currently the Yasen' class is on it's way to being the most expensive submarine ever. The cost estimate for the Kazan' is iirc over 3 billion USD.
There is also continuing speculation about completion of the Belgorod, for active service, using an upgraded project design.
Currently the Yasen' class is on it's way to being the most expensive submarine ever. The cost estimate for the Kazan' is iirc over 3 billion USD.
There is also continuing speculation about completion of the Belgorod, for active service, using an upgraded project design.
alexkvaskov
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Russia will have considerably more SSNs and SSGNs than China, while China has the advantage in SSKs.
China also has their entire fleet in the Pacific, where as the VMF is scattered over 4 fleets and one flotilla, with the emphasis of the re-armament being on the Black Sea Fleet, and Caspian Flotilla, partially because the small ships they require are easier to produce and more available, and partially because those two structures are closest to the North Caucus and Central Asia, which is where Russia expects to fight most of their future wars. Once/If the new destroyer projects begins deliveries, and the Mistral class ships reach FOC, then we will start to see real improvement in the capabilities of the Pacific Fleet.
