Royal New Zealand Navy Discussions and Updates

[Rob c]

NZ needs a higher tax take, capital gains, wealth tax, inheritance tax, higher personal tax, and the retirement age needs to be increased to 67 at a minimum with gradual increase to 70 over a 10 year period, new roads need to be tolled.

We need to secure our future, get back to a world class health and education systems, have secure and affordable housing for everyone, and we need secure energy which needs to be a combination of renewables, geo thermal and more hydro and we need a defence force that is small yet modern but able to respond to humanitarian and natural disasters and patrol our part of the world.

For reference we had the lowest persnal tax rates in the OECD before the recent tax cuts. We must also look to our very economic system which was introducded in the mid 1980's at which point we were in the top ten GDP per person and ar now 24th and heading down. ( 40th on a GDP ppp Basis)
However fixing everthing would be in vain if we lose our sovereignty by not having a defence force that can defend us from outside aggression and we lose our freedom because we fail to protect it.

 

[John Fedup]

However fixing everything would be in vain if we lose our sovereignty by not having a defence force that can defend us from outside aggression and we lose our freedom because we fail to protect it.

NZ isn't the only country with pollies and citizens that can not figure this basic fact out.

 

[Catalina]

Glad we went with the Romeos for our Navy.
Hope these leads on to the Mogamis...

 

[Xthenaki]

I dont think that we will see the Mogamis in the short term - The GOD allocated in this years budget 650 Million dollars to enhance the capability and extend the life of the existing anzac frigates. We may have to wait for the Magamis "with a long sigh" or at least until the Aust/Japanese contract gathers momentum.

 

[Todjaeger]

I dont think that we will see the Mogamis in the short term - The GOD allocated in this years budget 650 Million dollars to enhance the capability and extend the life of the existing anzac frigates. We may have to wait for the Magamis "with a long sigh" or at least until the Aust/Japanese contract gathers momentum.

Not to mention that the NZGov't plans have called for the Kiwi ANZAC-class frigates to get replaced in the mid-2030's... I would hope that the RNZN and gov't have at least started the planning stages of the procurement programme, because it can easily take a decade or more to go from the ideas first getting written down, to an actual, in service replacement platform.

 

[Hawkeye69]

Brilliant decision to buy the MR-60R, buying the Romeo means we will be operating the world’s premier naval helicopter, brilliant decision.
The other brilliant decision was going with Airbus A321 XLR and that was really a no brainer.

Frigate wise I have heard the only one been considered is the Japanese one the Mogami class as per what Australia have just signed up to, a lot on here think the Babcock AH140 would be in the running but it was not, communality with Australia is the priority with the frigates, the replacements will be like for like so only 2.

I would not expect the OPV’s to be replaced, not with manned ships anyway, the SOPV yes and that will likely be two fold offering both SOPV and hydrographic work, but the current 2x OPV’s will likely be unmanned platforms, similar to the USN Sea Hunter.

Next announcement could likely be for the V-Bat UAV’s, were demonstrated here in November last year, proven platform and proven in Ukraine to not be prone to Russian jamming devices, it’s VTOL ability is very well regarded.

 

[Reptilia]

Australia to receive 3 Upgraded Mogamis 1st - 2029(service 2030), 2nd - 2031?(2032?), 3rd - 2033(service 2034).

Perfect timing for NZ deliveries of the same ship from Japan in 2034, 2035 or 2036.