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Boagrius
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You'd hope so. Another 20 years is a long time to keep Collins running and relevant in our part of the world. The last of her kind will be positively geriatric by the time they're all divested(!).
As I posted at #29,772 the only sensible names for these vessels are after Melbourne Cup winners HMAS Makybe Diva, HMAS Think Big, HMAS Empire Rose, HMAS Let's Elope, HMAS What A Nuisance and of course HMAS Phar Lap. 
If not name a champion racehorse to represent each State and Territory. Or starting from this next Melbourne Cup day name the sub after the winner!
If not name a champion racehorse to represent each State and Territory. Or starting from this next Melbourne Cup day name the sub after the winner!
What’s also interesting is the reporting about the German type 216 being considered. Anyone who’s thought about Australian subs for 5 minutes would understand that this was a ridiculous idea, but I wonder if there was a bit of misinformation thrown the journo’s way to take them off the scent of nuclear vessels?
Boatteacher
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The French seem a bit peeved.
Might it be the case that this article highlights some of the problems that underlied the original agreement.
France FM: Biden Acted Like Trump by Sabotaging Submarine Deal
I like the comment.."The deal — dubbed the “contract of the century” by French media — would have generated tens of billions of dollars for Paris. "
Which sort of misses the point that the money was meant to be spent in Australia doesn't it?
Might it be the case that this article highlights some of the problems that underlied the original agreement.
France FM: Biden Acted Like Trump by Sabotaging Submarine Deal
I like the comment.."The deal — dubbed the “contract of the century” by French media — would have generated tens of billions of dollars for Paris. "
Which sort of misses the point that the money was meant to be spent in Australia doesn't it?
Well not exactly. It’s a business deal and yes, the French would have made a profit. Why else would they have competed for the project? Some money would have been spent in Australia but they’re going to make a profit.
I would argue that the US doesn't need to be the great protector, they only get involved when there is a benefit to them, the only exception since WW2 I can think of is the Balkans, everything else has been due to paranoia or for the benefit of US industry and oil interests. The US is not a country that is trustworthy, they're in the same bucket as China in that respect.
A company I know had to pull out of supplying equipment to the Nord Stream pipeline or risk facing US sanctions, this is a project that has absolutely nothing to do with the US, it's between Germany and Russia, what right has the US got to meddle with who Germany buys gas from, or is it there business because they are using sanctions to promote the sale of far more expensive US produced shale gas? The US has weaponised sanctions, my former employer pulled out of Russian, costing them hundreds of millions of NOK in sales because the US sanctioned USC, the EU hadn't sanctioned them, neither had Norway, the US did, so the banks refuse to accept payment. The world needs to be remove it's reliance on the USD.
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You forget to mention the Russians Rob on your name and shame your list of the big bad guys. Why is that? It is the EU's business who Germany buys gas from and many in the EU countries they were not happy.
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You're taking the "Ladbrokes the world" campaign a little to far, although Marky Mark Wahlberg smashing the champagne bottle would definitely help with PR when its over budget and delayed...As I posted at #29,772 the only sensible names for these vessels are after Melbourne Cup winners HMAS Makybe Diva, HMAS Think Big, HMAS Empire Rose, HMAS Let's Elope, HMAS What A Nuisance and of course HMAS Phar Lap.
If not name a champion racehorse to represent each State and Territory. Or starting from this next Melbourne Cup day name the sub after the winner!
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Well maybe the Russians shouldn't have interfered in US elections, and oh yes using WMD in the UK in a bungled assassination attempt, instead killing an innocent woman. The cyber attacks that repeatedly enamate from within Russia the illegal Russian annexation of Crimea, the Russian war against the Ukraine. You have are somewhat one sided and makes me wonder if you are a Kremlin apologist.
Redlands18
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You do realise that all the Horses Mr C named are Kiwi Horses don't you? I will agree with him on one condition, I could be a Fly on the wall when Jacinderella found out.
He didn't name a certain Kiwi horse, besides Bonecrusher so he's being kind to you. Actually Bonecrusher is a great name for a warship.You do realise that all the Horses Mr C named are Kiwi Horses don't you? I will agree with him on one condition, I could be a Fly on the wall when Jacinderella found out.
On another front. The French are that mad that they cancelled a party in Washington celebrating a 240 year old naval battle. It must have been a really rare one - they won it.
France is so mad about the Australia submarine deal that it canceled a big party in D.C.
French officials in Washington canceled a gala at their compound over frustration with the new security partnership between the U.S., U.K. and Australia.
www.cnbc.com
How about Naming them after famous Australians? Russel Crow, Sam Neil.......You do realise that all the Horses Mr C named are Kiwi Horses don't you? I will agree with him on one condition, I could be a Fly on the wall when Jacinderella found out.
Sorry guys, I couldn't help myself.
What about after Premiers?
Dan Andrews?
Berijiklian?
Gunner?
Dan Andrews?
Berijiklian?
Gunner?
Redlands18
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I reckon its time we honoured our first Submariners and named them AE1 through AE8
John Fedup
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Ouch!!He didn't name a certain Kiwi horse, besides Bonecrusher so he's being kind to you. Actually Bonecrusher is a great name for a warship.
On another front. The French are that mad that they cancelled a party in Washington celebrating a 240 year old naval battle. It must have been a really rare one - they won it.
France is so mad about the Australia submarine deal that it canceled a big party in D.C.
French officials in Washington canceled a gala at their compound over frustration with the new security partnership between the U.S., U.K. and Australia.
If RAN does goes down the Astute path the RAN and RN may look very similar in some respects in a decade or 2. Not just in ship types but in numbers too (except CVs and SSBNs). I think that says a lot about AU level of commitment considering it's well less than 1/2 the population.
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