I think they replaced Sea Sparrow with ESSM on all their destroyers. RAM's used as a CIWS on the Izumo & Mogami classes, but I've not heard that it's on other ships.
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The JMSDF has released what we would define as a “request for tender” for the integration of ESSM into their “non-AEGIS” ships including (presumably) Mogami and (it is assumed) upcoming FFM.
Similar in concept no doubt to their previously stated intention to integrate NSM onto Mogami and (assumed) FFM as well.
Accordingly, despite many of the handwringers, things seem to be lining up quite nicely for RAN’s intended acquisition of Mogami FFM. Mk.45 127mm gun, ESSM, NSM, MH-60R Romeo and enablers (Hellfire, Mk.54 etc).
Learning the new ship, new CMS, radar systems etc will take some work, but as it is a direct replacement with the ANZAC Class with it’s 9LV / CEAFAR combo, the training impost must be at least “manageable”.
I would imagine spots are filling up fast on Japanese language courses though… Liaison spots would likely be highly sought after I imagine…
I think it is a compliment of both operating practices and technology.
A ship's crew already changes depending on its activity. It varies considerably depending on the deployment. During my time on ANZACs we could vary from 160 up to over 240 people.
I suspect Mogamis work on a similar principle. They have beds I understand for upwards of 140 people, and we will have additional trainees above the official number. Extra crew will be embarked for differing missions
We never had a doctor, except on long overseas deployments. For the majority of the time, a medic (similar qualifications to a civilian ambulance crew) is the senior medical person onboard. They are very good and to be honest I would rather be treated for an injury by a military medic than a doctor. They know how to stop bleeding fast.
I remember there were similar arguments regarding crew size reductions when we went from the Charles Adams and River classes down to the Hobart, ANZAC and Perry class crew sizes. I think similar concerns were mounted then regarding crew fatigue, full ship functionality and damage control capability.
All in all the newer classes continued to operate, albeit differently, but to the same effect.
Activities like damage control evolve. The practices used on a Charles Adams were very different to an ANZAC, which will be different to a Mogami. The changes bring about a lot of new strengths, but sometimes some new weaknesses as well. The art is how crews adapt to these changes to harness the strengths and mitigate the weaknesses.
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Any idea what their yearly production rate will be? I saw the US only received 500 since 2022
ESSM Blk 2 Delivery
In case you missed it, here’s a brief update on ESSM Blk 2 missile deliveries. According to DOT&E[1], ESSM production missiles began deliv...
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A follow up post showed each AB would only receive 7 ESSM's , if they only had 500 ESSM's.
Only 7x Block II’s averaged out across the entire fleet being at sea at the same time and not counting the thousands strong inventory of Block I…Any idea what their yearly production rate will be? I saw the US only received 500 since 2022
ESSM Blk 2 Delivery
In case you missed it, here’s a brief update on ESSM Blk 2 missile deliveries. According to DOT&E[1], ESSM production missiles began deliv...
A follow up post showed each AB would only receive 7 ESSM's , if they only had 500 ESSM's.
Things aren’t quite as grim as they are made out, but missile production at politically acceptable peace-time production rates has put us in this situation…
Japan establishing an ESSM production line might be why we have not seen any movement from our own Government on ESSM production.Any idea what their yearly production rate will be? I saw the US only received 500 since 2022
ESSM Blk 2 Delivery
In case you missed it, here’s a brief update on ESSM Blk 2 missile deliveries. According to DOT&E[1], ESSM production missiles began deliv...
A follow up post showed each AB would only receive 7 ESSM's , if they only had 500 ESSM's.
Hard to justify two lines in SE Asia, provided Japan has the capacity we need as well.
We may get the added benefit of increased parts supply into their production line.
How long before acceptance you think, mid-late 2026?
Arafuras do as well.
That would be my guess.
Cheers Pusser.
Do you know if all OPVs will be delivered before the first LCH?
Both Marles and Conroy have stated 2029 but I’m hearing the aim is early-mid 2028.
Todjaeger
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It was my understanding that the Arafura-class OPV has elements of the 9LV, including workstations/interfaces, but not a complete 9LV system. If this is an accurate understanding, that would negatively impact any efforts to expand the OPV's capabilities in ways which would require greater electronics or computing capability or expanded use/participation in datalinks. Can anyone confirm whether this is correct or not?
A quibble: Japan is in NE Asia.
Totting up the ships, I think the JMSDF has about 1000 Mk41 cells on 28 ships, & a couple of hundred Mk 48 on 7 other ships & some of the 28. Of course, most of those cells will hold other missiles, but if they all put to sea with a full war load that'd probably include several hundred ESSM.
I suspect that Japanese production will be on a bigger scale than Australian would be likely to be.