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Morgo

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recce.k1 said:
Suggest NZG will do more to pull its weight (the signals are there). Praise to the CCP for making the case easier (and if they head NZ’s way then bonus points to them for bringing the “threat” further into the public’s awareness)!
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Would be nice if they decided to tack on an order for 4-6 Mogamis to ours (assuming that’s where we land with SEA3000). Good for us, good for NZ, good for JP, bad for CN.
 
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SammyC

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Reptilia said:
They will be destroyed like any other illegal fishing vessel.
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I don't think that is straight forward to do.

The below articles are from several years ago, however it details how Chinese fishing vessels moved into the Galapagos. They stayed outside the EEZ, but then stripped fished on the very peripheral edge. Australia would have no ability to seize vessels that operated like this outside of war.

These fishing vessels are blue water sea going and can do speeds in the high teens, early 20s. They can be run down by a frigate on on full gas turbine, but nothing really else. A cape has no chance, an Arafua would be useful for patroling, but its a big area.

Now China picks on places like Ecuador because they have minimal ability to fight back. But they could equally park a large fleet 200nm off the coast of Broome or Abrolhos and permanently leave it there. We would have no ability to deal with that, other than perhaps watch it.

How China Targets the Global Fish Supply (Published 2022)

'They will be back': How China's 'dark' fleets are plundering the world's oceans
 
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DDG38

The Bunker Group
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From this SMH article about the PLAN ships off the coast :
"Crew on the NZ frigate HMNZS Te Kaha, which was shadowing the Chinese ships, reported observing behaviour “consistent with a live fire activity” and monitored the Chinese ships deploying and recovering a floating target."
This sounds consistent with either a 50 cal or 127mm firing. I'm sure both RAN and RNZN units would have confirmed it. (photo from ADF Image Library)
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iambuzzard

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Morgo said:
Would be nice if they decided to tack on an order for 4-6 Mogamis to ours (assuming that’s where we land with SEA3000). Good for us, good for NZ, good for JP, bad for CN.
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Noting how New Zealand's economy probably couldn't handle it realistically 3 to 4 is more a possibly, though I'd love to be proved wrong. Great country by the way, been there three times.
 
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