The press release is on this site
quite different to leaks including optionally crewed vessels
quite different to leaks including optionally crewed vessels
What exactly are ...... Large Optionally Crewed Surface Vessels (LOSVs) .........?The press release is on this site
quite different to leaks including optionally crewed vessels
this Dutch example was discussed on another thread here by InvernoWhat exactly are ...... Large Optionally Crewed Surface Vessels (LOSVs) .........?
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See Austal's takes on the idea...What exactly are ...... Large Optionally Crewed Surface Vessels (LOSVs) .........?
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Each LOSV will supposably have 32 cells.What exactly are ...... Large Optionally Crewed Surface Vessels (LOSVs) .........?
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This implies the Arrowhead design is out. So Navantia, TKM, Mushashi and Chungnam(?) SK designs are invited to bidding. I find the reference to Light or general purpose frigates, not corvettes, encouraging. All of these options are 4000+ to 5000 tonnes.Light frigates shortlisted to designs from Spain, Germany, South Korea and Japan (per Marles' on ABC), first three hulls built overseas, remaining 8 in WA.
Edit: Light frigate size of ANZACs to 50% larger, twice as many missiles (16 VLS cells?).
The ability to put a vessel in the water before 2030 and 4 by 2034 may have what cost Babcock and some others. The 4 countries chosen have significant ability to build ships in place now.This implies the Arrowhead design is out. So Navantia, TKM, Mushashi and Chungnam(?) SK designs are invited to bidding. I find the reference to Light or general purpose frigates, not corvettes, encouraging. All of these options are 4000+ to 5000 tonnes.
3 OS and 8 at HendersonHeavily armed 'optionally crewed' ships to enter service under reshaping of Australia's naval fleet
Six large and "optionally crewed" naval vessels heavily armed with missiles will be added to Australia's surface fleet under a dramatic $11 billion reshaping of the navy that will also see the acquisition of 11 new general-purpose frigates to be partly built overseas.www.abc.net.au
According to the ABC 6 large optionally crewed ships will be added to the navy. Also up to 11 GP froates to be built overseas. Upgaded version of the Hobart destroyer will be fitted with tomahawks, The overall navy will eventually be increased to 26 combat ready warships consisting of 9 tier 1 Destroyer/frigates, 11 gp frigates and 6 optionally manned vessels.
Pretty big news if it turns out to be correct.
No. There are 11 new GP frigates, 3 built overseas initially, then 8 built in Henderson. Lots of work for Perth in this plan.Also up to 11 GP frigates to be built overseas.
From the Marles presser
First Hunter 2034, 6th Hunter 2043
next gen DDG will follow.
first GP Frigate 2029, 4th by 2034 first 3 built offshore, other 8 at Henderson. There are 4 contenders, Spain, Germany, ROK, Japan, winner announced 2025, will be in the 4-6000t range.
LOSV mid 30s-mid 40s, to work with the Hobarts and Hunters.
Cost $54B, $11.1B increased budget over next decade.
Anzac to be decommissioned.
No Anzac TransCAP.
The ability to put a vessel in the water before 2030 and 4 by 2034 may have what cost Babcock and some others. The 4 countries chosen have significant ability to build ships in place now.
3 OS and 8 at Henderson
Wanting the first hulls in the water by the late 2020s probably means anything too developmental is a no go, so Alpha 5000, FFX batch 4 and A210 are likely out. FFM might be bit marginal depending on how much it'd an upgraded Mogami vs substantially modified design.A bit odd, I know the type 31 has slipped slightly but they are still expected to deliver all 5 ships by the early 2030s.
Frigates from the 4 countries
Korea - HHI or Hanwha - Chungnam(FFX Batch 3) or Future(FFX Batch 4), HDF 2500/3000/3200/4000
Japan - Mitsubishi - Mogami or FFM
Germany - TKMS - MEKO A200 or A210
Spain - Navantia - F110 or Alpha 5000
More DDGs would have been nice but if the GOTD can actually deliver 6 Hunters, 11 GP frigates and 6 LOSVs, I'll forgive them, as these vessels will have far greater AW capability than the 8 Anzacs they will replace. In addition the replacement DDGs committed to follow the Hunters in production at Osborne will likely have superior capability to the vessels they will replace.When I read the part where it was to be partially built overseas I had the feeling a deal might have already been done with Austal/Navantia. We will see.
One thing missing. No additional AWD destroyers.
I wouldn't write off Babcock. They have an extensive network in Australia and they could arrange to have Australian ships built by a third nation. Poland comes to mind.Marles said in the Presser that the Frigates they are looking at is anywhere in size, from an Anzac to something up to 50% bigger and currently in production, so my guesses are.
Spain
Alpha 5000 or F-110
Germany
Meko A200
South Korea
Chungnam
Japan
Mogami or the follow on larger FFM.
I suspect Babcock was not able to meet what is a very tough timeline, unfortunately.