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Bob53

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I don’t think the Ghost Bat is being armed at this stage. As to manned and unmanned I would take a look at the Israelis. They clearly think there is a big spot on the ramp for manned aircraft going out to the 2050s at least.
 
OldTex

OldTex

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Bob53 said:
Interesting that Elon Musk is saying that F35s are obsolete And unmanned alternatives should be brought forward. Elon Musk Calls F-35 Builders ‘Idiots’, Favors Drone Swarms
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Just because Elon Musk says something does not automatically make it true. Of course he would say manned aircraft are obsolete and drones should be used, especially AI enabled drones. This is just Musk setting the preconditions to make it easier for him to promote his own brand of AI. A whole lot of areas and departments will be subjected to his self-interested interference.
 
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downunderblue

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Maybe the HASC should ask for the Secretary designate to appear before their commitee, so they can hear more from the esteemed scholar, only to have operators rebuff him and show him up.

I like him for what he's achieved, but he can't be an expert on everything he's asked (only hig ego says he has to be).
 
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Bob53

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OldTex said:
Just because Elon Musk says something does not automatically make it true. Of course he would say manned aircraft are obsolete and drones should be used, especially AI enabled drones. This is just Musk setting the preconditions to make it easier for him to promote his own brand of AI. A whole lot of areas and departments will be subjected to his self-interested interference.
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Just because he says it certainly doesn’t make it true but the bloke has probably the best record ofrunning business with futuristic technology and getting things done than anyone on the planet. I’m not a fan at all but who would have dreamed of sending a rocket to space and then landing it back down on the launch pad when it returned. And at half the price of anything NASA does. Prior to Space X getting a small stttelitte into orbit was in the millions. Now it’s in the hundreds of thousands $. He basically started the EV industry. Delivers internet at a fraction of the costs to remote locations. Pay Pal from essentially start up to $1.5 billion sale 3 years later. And gets things done relatively quickly.

vs a Military Industrial complex that has sucked the American tax payer dry and continually fails to deliver capability on time and budget ( think about how many cancelled a failed programs in the past 20 years alone) and takes years… right now the F35 is a 30 year old program. LM won in 2001. First F35 entered service 2015.

the argument about delivering cutting edge technology taking years to develop and being billions over budget seems to have fallen by the wayside at Space X ..admittedly their first few years were rocky but in the 20 odd years its deployed a dozen new launch vehicles, deployed starlink and star shield….done close to 450 launches of unmanned and manned missions. Look at starlink. Previous sat internet was hideously expensive and offering incredibly low speeds typically maxing out at about 5mbps. Now the price is a quarter of what it was and speeds in excess of 200mbps in the right circumstances.

I’m not anti F35 or Pro Elon but if this bloke is brilliantly pragmatic …if there is such a thing and no one anywhere is getting things done like him. he has a better crystal ball than anyone else. I fully expect him to shake up procurement at the pentagon and in the RAAF context the F35 supply chain might be part of that.
 
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Volkodav

The Bunker Group
Verified Defense Pro
OldTex said:
Just because Elon Musk says something does not automatically make it true. Of course he would say manned aircraft are obsolete and drones should be used, especially AI enabled drones. This is just Musk setting the preconditions to make it easier for him to promote his own brand of AI. A whole lot of areas and departments will be subjected to his self-interested interference.
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And he'll sell the access codes to Russia in exchange for being appointed military governor of the US.
 
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rossfrb_1

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seaspear said:
This paper discusses uav,s pros and cons particularly defence of microwave and laser are mentioned
would hope D.S.T.O are on top of this for the A.D.F
Breaking the Shield: Countering Drone Defenses
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I was only recently searching for ADF counter UAS capabilities and came across mention of Project Land 156.
www.australiandefence.com.au

Defence outlines C-UAS plans - Australian Defence Magazine

Almost three years into the Ukraine war, where drones have proliferated, the Australian Defence Force is seeking a counter-drone system that will deliver a minimum capability by the end of 2030 | Max ...
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"LAND 156 envisages a complete CsUAS system of sensors such as electro-optic, active and passive radars and acoustic and thermal sensors, integrated with command and control systems to coordinate the cueing and engagement of multiple effectors. Those effectors could include radio frequency (RF), electromagnetic, directed energy and kinetic hard kill to defeat CsUAS in a designated area. "

Also here
www.aspistrategist.org.au

Aiming at countering small drones, ADF faces challenges | The Strategist

The Australian Defence Force is working on countering small, cheap drones, but the challenges are daunting, with drone technology constantly evolving to sidestep anti-drone measures. Domestic legal obstacles don’t help. A specific acquisition project, LAND ...
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Some nascent capability

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rb
 
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