Todjaeger
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One of the issues with the F-111C was that while it had a tremendous combat radius on paper, in the later years of service the realistic combat radius was about equal to the SHornets with standoff munitions can achieve now. A major part of the problem being that the potential threat enviros that the F-111C would have to either ingress or cross would require a fighter escort to deal with potential hostile air which F-111's armed with Sidewinder WVR missiles could no longer deal with. This in turn largely capped the F-111's combat radius to the combat radius of the Classic Hornet's in RAAF service loaded for strike escort roles.Yes I read Pt 2 this morning too, be interesting to see what Marcus Hellyer has to say in Pt 3.
But the point you make about geography is correct, it is a two-way street, a long distance for one side is equally a long distance for the other side too.
What the article has ignored to this point (and we wait and see what's in Pt 3), is the potential availability of friendly air bases to our north (I won't list all the possibilities), I'd like to see a map with a radius circle around all those northern friendly bases (no doubt the DoD has such maps).
The other matter not mentioned so far (and again we await Pt 3), is precision long range weapons that are available for the F-35A and Super Hornet too (yes they may not be integrated as at today), but weapons such as JSM, JASSM, JASSM-ER, LRASM, etc.
JSM reportedly has a range of up to 560km, JASSM up to 370km, JASSM-ER 925+km and LRASM 560km.
To put that into perspective, the often used comparison was against the F-111C, which reportedly had a combat radius of 2,140km, but of course during the service life of the Pig those very long range weapons were not available to them, the AGM-142 reportedly had a range of 78km, and for maritime strike were earlier versions of Harpoon, range numbers vary, but I have seen figures suggesting a max of approx. 100 miles (160km).
So whilst the Pig had a great combat radius (and no RAAF tanker with a boom support), it had to get pretty close to a target, especially a land based target before weapons release, which of course increases the risk to the crew and aircraft.
Yes the Lightning II is not the Pig (in terms of combat radius for the airframe), but the Pig didn't have the organic force multipliers that are available to the Lightning II either.
Glass half empty? glass half full? Depends on how you look at it....
Cheers,
With the SHornet, and even more so for the F-35A, the aircraft have the ability to self-escort, plus smaller RCS, and then even more and more overall capable standoff munitions.