Redesigned JF-17 prototype revealed at Beijing Airshow

[SABRE]

Dont you think US will exert pressure on Pakistan and this can also block the way for those new F-16s which would be reaching Pakistani land in 2-3 years.What do you think how US will react if Iran gets thunders with SD-10 BVR missiles with a high radar which would surely be inducted in the thunders in coming years.

US probably wont exert any pressure and besides Pakistan is moving towards more soverign and independent foreign policy rather than following the old Cold War "Follow the Uncle Sam" policy. It is going ahead with Iran-Pakistan(-India) gas pipe-line regarless of US pressure. And regardless of Pakistan's going ahead with the deal, US has not threatened to cut back on F-16 deal.

Anyways, even if US exerts pressure, it doesnt matter. If not Pakistan than China will sell JF-17 to Iran (that is if Iran wants it ...since they are flying F-7s as well, i think they probably will..but they also have their own aircraft in making). Radar is integrated part, they will get it from whom eve sells them the fighter and as for the SD-10, its Chinese and China sells them. US has no say over China on this.

 

[tphuang]

US probably wont exert any pressure and besides Pakistan is moving towards more soverign and independent foreign policy rather than following the old Cold War "Follow the Uncle Sam" policy. It is going ahead with Iran-Pakistan(-India) gas pipe-line regarless of US pressure. And regardless of Pakistan's going ahead with the deal, US has not threatened to cut back on F-16 deal.

Anyways, even if US exerts pressure, it doesnt matter. If not Pakistan than China will sell JF-17 to Iran (that is if Iran wants it ...since they are flying F-7s as well, i think they probably will..but they also have their own aircraft in making). Radar is integrated part, they will get it from whom eve sells them the fighter and as for the SD-10, its Chinese and China sells them. US has no say over China on this.

at the moment, there is way too much pressure over the Iran issue. I doubt even China dears to sell JF-17 to the Iranians. Once the situation resolves a little bit, then you might see something happening. China does not want to piss off the Americans more than they already have. Selling JF-17 would not really make things that much harder for Americans militarily. It's more of the gesture that makes a difference.

 

[bin_qasim2]

The recent Pak-isreal meetings can finalise the radar but i am not sure if its combat radius can be increased then this ac can go deep into the enemy lines but radar can give it an edge which it does not have with grifo-7

No this can not happen now due to the reason that israel will only provide Pakistan high tech things when Pakistan fully establish deplomatic relations with israel. Doing so now will also harm israel relations with india.

The JF-17 will be a workhorse of PAF. It will not perform Deep Strike Mission coz it was not made to do that.

After receiving Erieyes there will no immediate need for a very advance radar for JF-17 (if it has good data link). integrated with Erieyes it will even pose serious threat to SU-30MKI in air defence role.

 

[SABRE]

at the moment, there is way too much pressure over the Iran issue. I doubt even China dears to sell JF-17 to the Iranians. Once the situation resolves a little bit, then you might see something happening. China does not want to piss off the Americans more than they already have. Selling JF-17 would not really make things that much harder for Americans militarily. It's more of the gesture that makes a difference.

At the moment scenerio is too political. But in case the US takes the military alternative China might arm Iran in a remaining pre-war period but thats alljust speculative. JF-17 has still a year and half to hit the export. So it does not even count in the "at the moment" situation. Besides it seems like Iran has a feeling for MiG-29s.

 

[corzair]

I really think Pakistan has and should remain grown up about weapon sales especially to Iran - I remember they really didnt help much relativily speaking with the refugee problem that came with the Russian invasion of Afganistan.
Iran really needs to change sumwhat before Pakistan trades weapons systems like the JF-17 with them
Theologian type whatever the religion shouldnt be running governments they should be teachers and guides when they get into politics they messup the message and are way too erratic!
I'm really happy Pakistan is going to be able to support itself but they need to tred carefully - there are plenty of folks ready to pronance Pakistan as wrongdowers!
The Iranians need reform too - money aint everything and its no good that if in say 10-20 years the situation gets spoilt and worse, then We may have armed a potential regonal adversary or problem state
just something to think about - remember Iraq even had Indian military advisors during the disaterious period of Saddam Hussain for the Iraq peoples even if people have forgotten that they shouldnt
and you can see that period is still affecting Iraq to day.
we need good governence in the entire region

Let Pakistan worry initially about defending herself first and not being over reliant on anyone.

 

[corzair]

What's the situation with the jF-17 engines

are they all going to be russian rd93 or chiness licenced engines
and when will Pakistan finally make their own engines??
is there a plan for that?