Re: BeiJing news from show: New strong JF-17 alike JSF with "DSI"
Oqaab said:
Thats what older articles say. Italian ASPIDE may not be used because PAF has another weapon (H-2 missile) but no official statement has been made on it.
Else, Matra or MICA options are there but missile co-operation with South Africa seems more credible.
There is little information present about H-2 and H-4 missiles i am also confused that this is a missile or a bomb but i have an article here check this out this can also solve the confustion of SABRE to some extent.
Pakistan Air Force's New Beyond Visual Range (BVR) Missiles
Pakistan Air Force has integrated the H-4 out-of-sight target bombs in its arsenal of fighter aircraft, official sources said. The incorporation of H-4 bombs have added to the capability of the PAF to hit out-of-sight targets from a distance of up to
120 kilometres to evade enemy radars during air strikes. A lighter version of the bomb, H-2 model, can hit the out-of-sight targets from a range of up to 60 kilometres.
"It is a step towards adding the Beyond Visual Range (BVR) missiles to our arsenal for defensive purposes and to address the strategic imbalance in the region," sources said.
The indigenously produced H-4 bombs is an achievement of the National Engineering and Scientific Commission (NESCOM), which works in close collaboration with Pakistan Missile Organizationand the Air Weapons Complex.
"Three successful tests of H-4, with the latest conducted this year, produced satisfactory results leading to addition of arsenal in the fighter jets," the sources said.
The H-4 bombs have been made through indigenous efforts by modifying the technological design of South African T-Darter BVR missiles. Till the induction of JF-17 Thunder in 2006, with a provision for BVRs, the H-2 and H-4 bombs could be carried by Mirage fighter jets. The H-4 infrared device is said to be comparable to that of the AA11, AA12 and Python 4 in the Indian arsenal.
Moreover, the sources said, fighter aircraft in PAF's arsenal have the "provision" to be fitted with precision-guided munitions and BVR missiles. When asked about advantages of BVR in Indian arsenal, PAF spokesperson Air Commodore Sarfaraz said: "We are aggressively trying to utilize whatever equipment we have to its optimum operational limits through professional training and by pursuing high standards of maintenance."
Mr Sarfaraz said: "We are aware of our technological needs and are vigorously trying to meet those requirements either through procurements or indigenous developments."
The European and the US suppliers were currently not willing to share the technology with Pakistan. However, contacts were being established with China, defence sources said, adding that JF-17 Thunder (to be inducted in 2006), F-16s and the Mirage aircraft in Pakistan's fleet all had the provision to be fitted with BVRs once the technology and the missiles would be acquired.
So the range of the missile shows that thunder must have latest radar more then 150km range but now it only has limited options i.e.
KLJ-10: There is not much known about this Chinese Radar, it is a probably a variant of radar used on J-10. It has met PAF's requirements and therefore has been chosen for initial batch. One can get some idea of its capability by looking at other Radars, whose Manufacturers were/are competing for JF-17/FC-1 Radar Contract.
RC-400: This Radar is believed to have a range of around 100 KM and can track as many as 32 targets.
Griffo S7: Range is about 100KM, Simultaneous engagement of atleast 2 targets.
Kopyo-F: This Phased-Array Radar has range of about 75 KM. It can track 20 targets and engage 4 simulataneously.
Elta EL/M 2032: Air-to-Air detection and tracking range up to 80 NM.
After initial batches of thunders there must be a superior radar in place and that RD-93 is tooooo smoky this can help enemies in a dogfight so this issue must be adressed.
