Pakistan to get 3 new frigates.

[solid]

So what do you think about the Frigate!!!

I think this FFG has a good performance consider its low cost and just has 2250 tons. The best thing is the YJ83 antiship missile. (maybe the max range=180--200 km. It's my guess, for no one can sure about this. and you know, the C802's max range=130 km), and her weak point is the air defence system (including HHQ7 and twin 37mm gun). Maybe PN will use LY60 or other mid-range missile and American 20mm CIWS or AK630 instead of them.
BTW. the twin 100mm gun was just changed a shell.

YJ83 antiship missile: (this ship is 567)

HHQ7 short range missile:

twin 37mm gun:

twin 100mm gun:

stealthy AK630:

 

[solid]

I do not feel Chinese Naval vessels are very hi-tech

I agree with you. they are just mid-tech.

I feel the South Korean are the most advance in hi-tech ship building nation. I saw on BBC World news on South Korea, they have pending orders from foreign buyers for over 400 vessels Merchant ships such as bulk cargo ships, oil tanks etc worth $80 billion., the South Korean shipyards are fully booked for the next 4 to 5 years.

Sorry for my bad English. If vessel means hull, chinese productions are hi-tech and some of them are very hi-tech. If vessel means the whole ship(including weapons and other sub-system etc.), chinese productions are mid-tech and some of them are hi-tech

 

[solid]

The helos are the Z9.... dont know about A2G capability though.. although the Sea Kings have the capability to launch AShup missiles.

A pic of the F22P model: (Source: Pakdef.info).

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PS. the Type 21 hulls maybe getting on but the subsystems have been upgraded extensively and they are to continue serving in the PN until 2010 i think.

Oh, joker. I can't see the pic. Admin edited it. How it looks like? The pic is a CG or a model? Can you tell me the pic's address? thx!
I don't think Z-9 is a good ASW helicopter, for it's a light heli. Maybe police like to use them, but it's not fit for Navy to use. So PLAN will use Ka-28 instead of Z-9.

 

[solid]

decoy launchers on type 053H3 FFG

chaff and flare launchers on type 053H3 FFG

 

[Revival_786]

Nice pics!

 

[adsH]

Solid i couldn't help noticing that you said the Frigates weight was around "2250 tons" but the pka navy admiral in his most recent Intreview said it was a 3000 ton ship. i am not sure but i think the Pak navy was interested in installing french made Sub systems in there naval platforms.

 

[solid]

Solid i couldn't help noticing that you said the Frigates weight was around "2250 tons" but the pka navy admiral in his most recent Intreview said it was a 3000 ton ship. i am not sure but i think the Pak navy was interested in installing french made Sub systems in there naval platforms.

The official introduction claims that the 053H3 FFG is a 2250 tons ship.(Maybe it's full tonnage.I'm not sure ,for the official introduction didn't mention this) . And chinese warships also use many French equipments.(Most of them are chinese copying or pirate version). For example, do you
notice the chaff and flare launchers on type 053H3 FFG (see the pic I posted). It's a copy of French production which used in La FAYETTE FFG(Dagaie MK2).
Consider the price, I think PN will purchase some chinese sub-systems.
This pic shows the details of 567. If you can read chinese, you will get more informations about 053H3 FFG's sub-systems.

 

[adsH]

Yes thanx for that piece of INformation Well my Chinese is as good as my German and it is safe to say i can't understand anything except recognise its german when some one speaks to me in German.

 

[Revival_786]

The ship looks nice and sleek

 

[P.A.F]

these ships should surve pakistan well.

 

[P.A.F]

china is kitting up pakistans navy so that they can carry out weekly excercises once the chinese move to the Gwadar port

 

[adsH]

china is kitting up pakistans navy so that they can carry out weekly excercises once the chinese move to the Gwadar port

Gwadar is an economical port for commerce!! it will still be few more years before New Docks are built to support chinese Navy Vessels for there Route in-wards in to the Gulf and the Arabian sea.

 

[joker]

Yes the F22Ps will most likely be fitted out with Chinese subsystems and weapons suite due to the unreliability when it comes to dealing with the US and UK and high costs with the French for example the UK followed suite when the US imposed the Pressler & Glenn amendments. Exception to UK imposed military sanctions was the continued supply of safety equipment for British origin assests in Pakistani service. But that exception was never came into force resulting in the PN having to ground their Lynx sqn. for considerable periods of time because the UK refused to supply safety equipment for the helos. After that debacle the PN have turned their sights to other more reliable suppliers i.e. the Chinese and thats why the Z9C has been selected to equip the F22P. The PN have evaluated it and like it.

 

[corsair7772]

Check this link out for the F-22. notice the frig was originally built 4 the PN. Wonder y they nvr delivered it. :?

http://www.sinodefence.com/navy/surface/jiangwei2.asp

 

[adsH]

Check this link out for the F-22. notice the frig was originally built 4 the PN. Wonder y they nvr delivered it. :?

http://www.sinodefence.com/navy/surface/jiangwei2.asp

Pakistan at that time had budgetary constraints and they were unable to provide a source of finance for the vessel!! Hard times appear to disappearing now!! :roll

 

[Revival_786]

How much do these babies cost? :?

 

[P.A.F]

pakistan are going to get a soft loan of china itself for these ships. don't know how much it costs though. :?

 

[CSS]

It is a prime time for Pakistan to acquire new frigates. The `good' neighbour seem introducing several new types of surface combatant vessel, so it is fair for Pakistan to balance out (eventhough, it still far from it).

I hope after this, Pakistan will produce their own frigate as they now have the ability to produce submarine.

 

[srirangan]

Pakistan need to acquire many modern sub's to counter the IN. Pakistan is far behind India and frigate ain't gonna give it strategic edge, sub's can and have troubled the IN in the past, that's where they ought to spend their money IMHO.

 

[adsH]

Pakistan need to acquire many modern sub's to counter the IN. Pakistan is far behind India and frigate ain't gonna give it strategic edge, sub's can and have troubled the IN in the past, that's where they ought to spend their money IMHO.

ah !! yeah i think they bought NEW subs with mesma Tech under TOT so those should-add to the sub fleet. the new sub is of the augusta 90 b class, 3 new inducted, i think they will build more of them soon. but there entire subs systems are brand new and are constantly upgraded, and i think They were talking about upgrading all there older subs with similar system so over all PAK navy Sub fleet still maintains an edge, i know they don't have nuke Subs but in a conflict between the two nations strike distance is irrelevant but quality is imperative, india's large array of subs are mostly old Kilos i think but they can or are upgraded. but the new scorpions Subs should be quite abit of an addition. paksitan most has frecnh augusta 90b i think 70b or 80b in the fleet with i think quite afew daphnies, all diesel propulsions, but i bet a better part of them have been upgraded.