New rifle for Turkish Forces?

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Burunsuzoglu

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Atilla [TR];137873 said:
Why not. When different people of different heights use the rifle they need different lengths for the butt stock and buying 4 different butt stocks for one gun is going to cost money. Another thing that does not apply to the mehmetcik 1 but does to the M16 A2 that the U.S Army is getting rid of is that the length of the barrel and the long butt stock are horrible getting in and out of vehicles also clearing rooms, having a an Adjustable butt stock lets you make the gun "shorter" to get in and out of rooms easier.
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I found them wobolloy with age, and even had an MP5 snap on me.
 
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kato

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Atilla [TR];137236 said:
I don't understand if HKpro is not an official website what makes an official website
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"Official websites" are those of the producers. HKPro is a fanclub, of sorts.

There are exactly two official HK websites:
www.heckler-koch.de/ (HK in general)
www.hk-usa.com/ (HK International)

Atilla [TR];137873 said:
Why not. When different people of different heights use the rifle they need different lengths for the butt stock and buying 4 different butt stocks for one gun is going to cost money.
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I don't know about the Turkish Forces, but at least in the Bundeswehr
a) there will always be more guns than soldiers (about 6 times as many rifles as soldiers at the moment in the Bw) and
b) over such a large amount of people, proper statistics on your soldiers will give you an idea about the amounts to procure of each type ahead of procuring.

Also, different length buttstocks? Please, this is about mass equipment, not some fancy ergonomics thing. One size fits all.
 
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kams

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Atilla [TR];137433 said:
. INter Allia is very good.
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. 'Inter Allia' (or inter alia) is the name of the alloy? My google search is coming up with nothing on any alloy called 'Inetr allia'. Could you provide a link to any articles/patents related to 'Inter Allia'.
 
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Atilla [TR]

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kams said:
. 'Inter Allia' (or inter alia) is the name of the alloy? My google search is coming up with nothing on any alloy called 'Inetr allia'. Could you provide a link to any articles/patents related to 'Inter Allia'.
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I searched it too only website that comes is the Youtube video of the weapon even though they never mention in the video.
 
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Atilla [TR];137901 said:
I searched it too only website that comes is the Youtube video of the weapon even though they never mention in the video.
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.... Then why if you have no idea what Inter Alia is you say its "very good"..

Inter alia

The Latin term "Inter alia" means: "amongst other things".
 
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Atilla [TR]

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jedigman said:
.... Then why if you have no idea what Inter Alia is you say its "very good"..

Inter alia

The Latin term "Inter alia" means: "amongst other things".
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I do know that it is a metal that they want to use because they are building the rifles different and this is the only metal they thought was the best. MKE is using heat injection into molding wich HK is not using. I hope they are not doing the same thing for the barrel. :( :( :(
 
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Yasin20

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Atilla [TR];137873 said:
Why not. When different people of different heights use the rifle they need different lengths for the butt stock and buying 4 different butt stocks for one gun is going to cost money. Another thing that does not apply to the mehmetcik 1 but does to the M16 A2 that the U.S Army is getting rid of is that the length of the barrel and the long butt stock are horrible getting in and out of vehicles also clearing rooms, having a an Adjustable butt stock lets you make the gun "shorter" to get in and out of rooms easier.
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i recon there just better off with the M4 Carbine
 
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jedigman

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Atilla [TR];137934 said:
I do know that it is a metal that they want to use because they are building the rifles different and this is the only metal they thought was the best. MKE is using heat injection into molding wich HK is not using. I hope they are not doing the same thing for the barrel. :( :( :(
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Ok can you please send me a link to where it says Inter Alia is being used in MKEK rifles, and another link confirming Inter Alia is a Metal Alloy.
 
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Atilla [TR]

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Basically, turkey did not have to aqquire license from HK, the same way the HK did not have to get a license from Colt, although they are exactly the same in when you look at them(which makes both of them a Colt M4 look-alike) . The Turkish version is made of a new metal, known as Inter Alia, which is more resistant to elements(Turkish forces in the mountains will be happy to here this i suppose).

Inter Alia is also lighter and does not expand as quick as other metals when heated, which is good for long firefights i would guess...

Although HK have given them the OK to produce the rifle without any legal complications(they wont sue, for external appearance similarities)...Anyone here who has any legal knowledge would know that if it were licensed it would use the name HK416, not Mehmetchik-1..MKE and HK have been long time partners and it would take an immense amount of bad happenings to seperate the duo...HK even gave MKE the design prints for the HK416-417.

But MKE gave something back in return, a new type of bullet, not different caliber but bullet, apparently, when it discharges, the gunpowder burns from the front to the back, thus, leaving ver little dirt in the barrel, an innovation in bullet design in HK's opinion, but not in mine, it is more of an upgrade than an innovation in my opinion
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Here you go Jedigman. Ask greywolf and I would not he is in the deffence industry. http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4929287.html
This link just says it is a coat so I dunno.
 
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kams

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Atilla [TR];137974 said:
Here you go Jedigman. Ask greywolf and I would not he is in the deffence industry. http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4929287.html
This link just says it is a coat so I dunno.
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Sigh..that patent was filed in 1988 and it deals with surface treatment of metals!

Another claim you keep making is ' Hot injection molding'. Is there a 'cold injection molding process' for metals? Which part of the gun is made by injection molding.

Sorry, Atilla, please do support your assertions with some evidence other than some one else's post.
 
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Atilla [TR]

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kams said:
Sigh..that patent was filed in 1988 and it deals with surface treatment of metals!

Another claim you keep making is ' Hot injection molding'. Is there a 'cold injection molding process' for metals? Which part of the gun is made by injection molding.

Sorry, Atilla, please do support your assertions with some evidence other than some one else's post.
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Ok I sent an e-mail to MKEK asking questions about the mehmetcik 1 when I get it back I will show you guys the e-mail.
 
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kams

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Atilla [TR];138161 said:
Ok I sent an e-mail to MKEK asking questions about the mehmetcik 1 when I get it back I will show you guys the e-mail.
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Thank you Atilla. Really appreciate the effort. :)
 
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