Middle East Defence & Security

swerve

Super Moderator
Martlet would be my bet - we've moved a pair of Wildcat helicopters out there and they can carry dozens of them - they're lightweight, laser guided and as cheap as chips.

If you're wanting to splash drones then you could carry 30 plus rounds quite easily.
Tens of thousands of quid for Martlet rather than hundreds of thousands for CAMM & millions for Aster, Standard, Patriot, ESSM etc.

For those flying low & slow enough door gunners, a trainer equipped with a gun pod, etc. should be cheaper. I'm all for using everything that works, while taking into account cost effectiveness. Small drones to blow up bigger ones, guided APKWS, whatever. And non-kinetic when available & suitable.
 

uguduwa

Member
Against low and slow drones a door gunner works too, or a gun-pod. Russia and Ukraine are doing that quite actively.



It might be a sign that they cant reliably cover the strait with radar and have to opt for this instead. In principle the US can clear mines, the issue is they have to send assets in to do that. So the question is, can Iran still hit ships in that area or not?
Maybe they just want oil prices to go up after prices went down. It doesn‘t seem like they have a Hortsge of missiles or drones. Tonight they sent more missiles than the past few days. This is either going to be a long war or a humiliating TACO that could cost the Us the entire middle east.
 

Feanor

Super Moderator
Staff member
Maybe they just want oil prices to go up after prices went down. It doesn‘t seem like they have a Hortsge of missiles or drones. Tonight they sent more missiles than the past few days. This is either going to be a long war or a humiliating TACO that could cost the Us the entire middle east.
It wouldn't be a missile shortage. It would be a targeting issue, I think.
 

MARKMILES77

Well-Known Member
For anyone interested in the implications of the Closure of the Strait of Hormuz, The UN trade and development organization has put out a useful report.Screenshot 2026-03-11 at 12.18.18.png

Few points:

1:Are the straits really closed? The answer is yes to everyone except the Chinese.

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2:What actually flows through the Straits:
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MARKMILES77

Well-Known Member
3:What regions are most effected?
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4:And don't forget how severely World food production will be hit due to fertilizer shortages.
Note also Australia is very vulnerable to this problem.Screenshot 2026-03-11 at 12.20.05.pngScreenshot 2026-03-11 at 12.20.31.png


 
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