Indian Nuclear & Missile Development, News & Discussions

nevidimka

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In todays Hindu paper, there is a news where it says Indian scientist have a new technology which can increase the missile range without physical change or increased fuel. It involves coating the tip of the missile with Chromium.

Chromium during the missile flight due to interection with extreme heat will turn into CHromium Oxide, n this will reduce the air preassure in front of the Missile nose, n in turn extend the range of the missile by 47%.

Indian Agni missiles have a blunt tip to increase its performance however, it also increases air resistance which reduces its range. This coating technology can easily extend the range of the Agni 3 to 5000 km range without increased fuel or extra dimensions, or reduced payload.

I'm not sure if this technology is well known among the big 5, or whther its a breakthrough, anyone fammiliar with this can fill in pls. thanks.
 

niteshkjain

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In todays Hindu paper, there is a news where it says Indian scientist have a new technology which can increase the missile range without physical change or increased fuel. It involves coating the tip of the missile with Chromium.

Chromium during the missile flight due to interection with extreme heat will turn into CHromium Oxide, n this will reduce the air preassure in front of the Missile nose, n in turn extend the range of the missile by 47%.

Indian Agni missiles have a blunt tip to increase its performance however, it also increases air resistance which reduces its range. This coating technology can easily extend the range of the Agni 3 to 5000 km range without increased fuel or extra dimensions, or reduced payload.

I'm not sure if this technology is well known among the big 5, or whther its a breakthrough, anyone fammiliar with this can fill in pls. thanks.
This is the link
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/008200805121940.htm

yup seems like a breakthrough tech but they shd hv preferred keeping quite
 

niteshkjain

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Anyway look in to this news:

http://www.newkerala.com/one.php?action=fullnews&id=59632

India preparing to test fire 5000-km range missile this year

New Delhi, May 13: Encouraged by the series of successes with the medium range ballistic missile Agni-III, India is now planning to test a missile with 5000 km range soon. According to reports, the test of the next progression of Agni missiles will push the country into the select group of nations which have long range ballistic missiles.


Agni-III Project Director Avinash Chander has hinted that the preparation process for the test launch of such a missile was in final stages, adding that the scientists were now awaiting a green signal from the Centre carrying out the test flights that could be a reality anytime by 2008-end.

He said that the launching of the 5,000-km range missile would involve strapping third stage booster rocket on Agni-III missiles powered by solid fuel propellant.

Significantly, along side the longer range Agni missiles, India will also carry out further tests of its special naval missile, an acronym used by DRDO scientists for a submarine launched ballistic missile, and the second test of interceptor missile that will be undertaken by September-October.

Speaking about the special naval missile, DRDO Director General M Natarajan said that his scientists were "heavily engaged" in the project, but, at the same time, refused to be drawn out on when India's first nuclear submarine would roll out. Elaborating on DRDO's future programmes, Natarajan said the primary focus has been the development of strategic systems and technologies. "We are not looking far. If the tests go according to plans, such a system can be deployed in a few years time," he said.

On the other hand, regarding the interceptor missile, Project Director V K Saraswat said this would give India the capability to intercept any incoming missile. He refuted suggestions that the development of such a missile could lead to an arms race and he said that it would give India a stronger defense.

"With such a missile in our arsenal, we don't have to match the capabilities of our adversaries. On the other hand, they will have to think twice as anything they fire at us can be intercepted," he said. According to Saraswat, it would take three to four more tests to develop a robust anti-missile battery system which could be fielded from the frontline to protect the country's vital assets.

So wait for some more good news if indeed DRDO successfully tests interceptor missiles this will be kohinoor in the crown.
 

niteshkjain

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Now here is the hypersonic version

http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20080049716

Hypersonic BrahMos undergoes successful lab test

Tuesday, May 13, 2008 (New Delhi)

Indian scientists have successfully conducted a laboratory test of a hypersonic BhrahMos missile, a top official said.

We have achieved a speed of Mach 5.26 in our laboratory tests of the hypersonic version of the BrahMos. However, it will take some 15-20 tests under controlled conditions before the missile can be actually test-launched,'' BrahMos Aerospace Chief Executive Officer A. Sivathanu Pillai told.

The test was conducted at the Hyderabad-based Advanced Systems Laboratory of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) that has jointly developed the missile with Russia's NPO organisation.

BrahMos currently flies at Mach 2.86. Missiles that fly at Mach 3 to 4 (three to four times the speed of sound) belong to high supersonic class. Hypersonic missiles fly at speeds over Mach 5.

The Brahmos hypersonic version will have higher speed, less fuel consumption and less operational time (to deploy), thus giving better results in terms of range. The high speed will also give less reaction time to the enemy, Pillai added.

The high speed will also make the missile hard to detect and will increase the impact on the target.

The velocity of the missile is directly proportional to the destruction it causes. The high velocity would ensure maximum damage, Pillai said.

The hypersonic version is powered by a scramjet engine that is also used for launching satellites at low cost.

What does Mr. pillai want to say in terms of "giving better results in terms of range" does he means they are increasing the range of missiles.

And the last line I am not able to understand does it mean ISRO and DRDO are collaborating? or any tech transfer???
 

nevidimka

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I'd prefer it if less news is published about the development but India just comes out with a test n then tell to the world.

And now that they already have a 3500km range missile, i think they should straight away jump to a 6000km range 1. The technology exists already, so might as well go for a bigger jump in range.
And I'd like it if the longer range missile is tested this year itself. ;)
 

niteshkjain

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Because of CBM with pakistan in place, we need to inform them beforehand about the tsets, anyway as you rightly said when the tech exist for 3500km they should look for 6000km not 5000km but the same way why not look at 10000 km straightaway, the debate can go on. But missile ranges are also governed with what the government is comfortable with, and yes check my previous post hope we see the test this year only.:)
 

aaaditya

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hey guys,check out this interesting concept developed by iisc to increase the range of the indian ballistic missiles.

here is the link and the article:

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/008200805121940.htm

IISC develops technology for increasing range of missiles

Bangalore (PTI) A team from the Indian Institute of Science (IISC) here has developed a innovative technology for increasing the range of Agni type of missiles without additional cost.
The team headed by Prof K P J Reddy from the department of Aerospace Engineering, IISC, achieved the feat by reducing the drag of the missile encountered during its flight, an IISC release said here on Monday.
The drag is the main phenomenon which dictates the range of the missile for a given amount of fuel as the thrust generated by the rocket engine must compensate for the drag encountered by the missile in its path.
Existing techniques for reducing the drag force involve addition of an aerospike at the nose the missile or blowing a supersonic gas jet from the missile nose tip.
Implementation of these techniques involves major modification to the missile structure and hence cannot be applied to existing missiles which are in stockpile.
The new technology developed by Prof Reddy's group involves a radically different technique in the sense that no additional device or power was required for hypersonic flight. The technique is to coat the nose portion of the missile with a thin layer of material such as chromium. This metal evaporates due to heating of the missile nose during its hypersonic flight and the evaporated metal particles in atomic form react exothermically with oxygen atoms surrounding the body to release additional heat into the air in front of the missile.
 

nevidimka

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aaditya, its already been posted. You didnt discover it 1st, LOL.
Anyways, I was hoping to see some discussion on this technique with some missile experts, but it seems like its going unnoticed because this is on an Indian missile thread, which seems like being ignored. Sigh.

I'm just wondering if this technology is practical, n if the Big 5 have intimate knowledge on this?

Is this technology practical enough for the Indian defence forces to depend
47% of its missile range on just a coat of chemical?
 

niteshkjain

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http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/000200805231121.htm

Prithvi missile test-fired successfully

Balasore (Orissa) (PTI): India on Friday successfully test-fired its 150-250 km range surface-to-surface 'Prithvi' missile, which can carry a pay load of 1000 kg explosives, from the integrated test range at Chandipur.

"The Prithvi missile was test-fired as part of a user's trial by the Indian Army and the test was successful," defence sources said.

The 8.56 metre-long and one metre thick Prithvi missile can carry a pay load of 1000 kg explosives. The indigenously built missile, developed by the Defence Research Development Organisation (DRDO), has already been inducted in the army, they said.

"Mounted on a mobile tatra transporter-erector launcher, the sophisticated missile took off vertically at about 1030 hours and plunged into the pre-designated splash-down point in the Bay of Bengal," the sources said.

Powered by liquid propellant, Prithvi can operate with both liquid as well as solid fuel. All parameters of the missile are now being analysed after the successful test fire," said the sources.

Friday's test was conducted jointly by DRDO and the special missile regiment raised by the army.
 

aaaditya

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hey guys ,check out this interesting article on the composite materials developed as per the agni project,it is an informative article.

here is the link and the article:

http://www.frontlineonnet.com/stories/20080606251104000.htm

Composite strength





THE Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) achieved a technological breakthrough in September-October 2007 when it developed and tested a large rocket motor whose casing was made entirely of carbon filament-wound composite. The qualification and static tests were successful. The motor casing was developed indigenously by the Advanced Systems Laboratory (ASL), Hyderabad, a unit of the DRDO, and realised by industry.
“This is a major breakthrough because it provides us the key technology for going into longer missions [for instance, the Agni-V missile] with lighter missiles,” said Avinash Chander, Director, ASL. The advantages of rocket motor casings made of composites that are light but strong are manifold. The ultimate ambition of the ASL is to build a missile made totally of composites with no metal in them.
Today, most rocket motor casings in the civilian and defence sectors in India are made out of steel. Maraging steel, made by the public sector undertaking MIDHANI, has special strength. However, weight is a critical factor in missiles. A lighter missile can be easily transported either on a railway track or by a truck and thus can be launched from any part of India. Besides, light-weight missiles are able to carry payloads over a longer distance. Therefore, the trend all over the world is to make rocket motor casings out of composites.
The ASL is a premier missile laboratory working on composites. It achieved a breakthrough several years ago by developing a heat shield made of carbon composite without any metal back-up. It is the heat shield that protects the warhead and avionics from the 2,500-degree Celsius temperature generated during the missile’s re-entry into the earth’s atmosphere. This heat shield, made of composites, is being used in the Agni family of missiles.
Avinash Chander said: “But a composite motor [that is, motor casings made of light-weight composites] was one area where we were struggling to find our own capability because nobody gives you this technology. We had no access to any machinery or equipment to make the composites. Only the Russians, the Americans and the European consortium EADS [European Aeronautics Defence and Space Company] have this capability.”
The advantages of building rocket motor casings out of composites are manifold. Composites reduce the weight of the missile stage by 40 per cent. That is, if the composite motor casing leads to a weight reduction of 200 kg compared to a casing made of metal, the warhead’s weight can go up correspondingly, by 200 kg. This is a huge amount for a payload. Or the range of the missile can be stepped up. Alternatively, a combination of both can be had.
Besides, the missile can operate at much higher pressures. “We are able to increase the operating pressure and reduce the burn duration so that the missile will have a short time of operation and we can make it more efficient,” the ASL Director said.
A composite motor casing is also cost-effective. It costs half as much as a metallic motor casing. Thus, the performance of the motor is two times more efficient at half the cost. Composites are non-corrosive and thus have a longer storage life than metallic motors. Since missiles have to be stored, the non-corrosive nature of a composite rocket motor is an advantage.
But it was not a smooth journey for the young team comprising K. Jayaraman, Director, Composites, and Manoj Kumar Buragohain and Pradeep Thakkar, both scientists, to develop and test the rocket motor casing. This ASL team had to do non-destructive evaluation of motors. “An entire set of evaluation techniques using X-rays and ultrasonics that are applicable to this class of systems was developed,” said Jayaraman.
Today, the ASL has come up with a frontier technology from a zero base, and this involved the development of material processes, evaluation techniques, design tools, fabrication techniques and so on. It is equally important that all these have been transferred to medium-scale industries specialising in composite structures, and the ASL receives its products from them.
Avinash Chander said: “For all our long-range missions, this is a key technology. This will enable building upper stages for missiles with greater ranges. In the long run we will have an all-composite missile. We have already developed payloads made of composites. We have made inter-stages out of composites. They have gone through qualification trials and we are ready to use them. With this development of motor casing made of composites, we will practically have no metal in our missiles.”
This development would be an avoidable requirement when India wants to build missiles with multiple warheads or a missile that is launched from under water. “That is the basic importance of this event,” he added.
 

aaaditya

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hey guys,here is another interesting artcle of the agni missile project from the same source.it also contains some images of the missile.

here is the link and the article:

http://www.frontlineonnet.com/stories/20080606251103700.htm

THE successful launch of the Agni-III surface-to-surface ballistic missile from Wheeler Island off the coast of Orissa on May 7 portends two important developments. The first is that the missile, with a range of 3,500 kilometres, and successful for the second time in a row, may be inducted into the Army in 2009 after a flight trial. It is already “packaged” to be in “a deliverable mode”. The second development is that Agni-III will form the building block for the Agni-V missile, which can target places 5,000 km away.
With the addition of a third upper stage and with minor modifications, the two-stage Agni-III can metamorphose into an awesome Agni-V. Avinash Chander, Programme Director, Agni-III, told Frontline: “We are working on Project Agni-V. It will take two years to have the first flight trial.” All the Agni variants are capable of carrying nuclear warheads. Agni-III can carry a nuclear warhead weighing 1.5 tonnes.
A crucial step towards building Agni-V was taken when the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) developed last year a large rocket motor casing made entirely of carbon filament-wound composite. This casing, developed indigenously, will form the third upper stage of the Agni-V missile. It went through full qualification tests in 2007.
“This is a major breakthrough because it provides us the key technology for going into longer missions with light-weight missiles… We have flight-tested Agni-III twice successfully. When we want to go in for missiles with higher ranges, one key technology is the composite rocket motor casing. That has been developed now,” said Avinash Chander, who is also Director, Advanced Systems Laboratory (ASL), Hyderabad. The ASL, which is a unit of the DRDO, designs and builds the Agni family of missiles.
Agni-III’s flawless performance capped a series of successes in the DRDO’s missile programme in 2007 and 2008. These successes include the launch of Agni-III on April 12, 2007; the firing of a hypersonic interceptor missile from Wheeler Island on December 6, 2007, which intercepted an incoming target missile in a direct hit over the Bay of Bengal at an altitude of 15 km; a series of flight trials of the surface-to-air Akash missile the same month, which has paved the way for the induction of Akash into the Indian Air Force; the launch of the K-15 Sagarika missile on February 26 from a submerged pontoon in the Bay of Bengal, which simulated the conditions of a submarine; the firing of BrahMos, the supersonic cruise missile, on March 5; and a flight trial of Agni-I on March 23.
The flight of Agni-III

Tension was evident at the Launch Control Centre on the otherwise serene Wheeler Island, off the coast of Damra village in Orissa, on May 7 morning. Avinash Chander and Dr. V.G. Sekaran, Vehicle Director, sat in front of their computer consoles as the countdown progressed. M. Natarajan, Scientific Advisor to the Defence Minister, and Dr. V.K. Saraswat, Chief Controller, Research and Development (Missiles and Strategic Systems), DRDO, were scanning the plot-boards in front of them. About a kilometre away, the two-stage, 17-metre-tall Agni-III with a lift-off weight of 50 tonnes stood majestically on its rail-mobile launcher.
At 9-56 a.m., the first stage erupted into life, rose steadily into the atmosphere and sliced a parabolic path in the sky. As hundreds of subsystems on board the missile worked with clockwork precision, the second stage ignited and the first stage fell into the Bay of Bengal. The missile climbed to an altitude of 350 km and reached a peak velocity of 4 km per second. The re-entry system with a dummy payload inside plunged into the atmosphere, withstanding a searing 2,500 degrees Celsius. The payload was protected by a carbon-carbon, all-composite heat shield. The payload impacted 3,000 km away from the launch point, in the Indian Ocean.
The entire flight lasted 13 minutes and 20 seconds. The trajectory of the missile followed the set path to a T. The curve, the velocity and the altitude were exactly as predicted. Data on every second of the flight were available right from ignition until the dummy payload landed in the sea.
The DRDO’s Integrated Test Range with its array of sophisticated radars at Chandipur-on-sea, Wheeler Island, Konark, Paradip (all in Orissa) and Port Blair (in the Andaman and Nicobar archipelago) tracked the trajectory of the missile. Besides, naval ships fitted with radars were positioned near the impact-point of the payload. These radars provided the data on the terminal phase of the flight and the impacting of the payload in the waters. The flight was so error-free that even during the plasma effect, which disturbs communication, telemetry was received. This meant that data were available continuously right from the missile’s launch point until it hit the waters.

Natarajan, who is also Director-General, DRDO, called it “a golden launch in the golden jubilee year of the DRDO”. This success, coming as it did after Agni-III’s successful flight in April 2007, established its “consistency path”, Natarajan said.
Saraswat said: “The launch went to such levels of perfection that are beyond our imagination. Our objective has been achieved in its totality…. ”
The great performance of the missile, asserted Avinash Chander, proved that its earlier success was “not a one-shot” affair. “The system has inherent robustness and strength. The performance parameters demonstrated them so well. All the events took place exactly as expected,” he added. The missile had a special ring-laser gyro-based inertial navigation system for the mission’s accurate performance.
Sekaran said: “This particular flight was crucial in proving some of the major systems which will take us to the longer range. This is the achievement of this mission. We will now go for a missile with a range of 5,000 km.”

‘System for the future’

The importance of Agni-III lies in the fact that it is not a mere missile but a system for the future with which various configurations can be developed. It gives teeth to India’s nuclear deterrence capability. It is built with the potential to carry heavier payloads. With the same dimensions and the addition of a third stage powered by solid propellants, the missile can hit targets more than 5,000 km away.
“It will be a minor change in terms of the system. If you see the overall size, it practically remains the same. We can use the same launch facility, the same transportation facility. That is why I said Agni-III is a system for the future,” explained Avinash Chander.
The innovative modular structure of Agni-III lends itself to building missiles that have longer ranges and those that can carry multiple warheads. Besides, Agni-III can be wheeled both by rail and road. Hence, it can be launched from anywhere in India. It can be modified to be launched from other platforms as well. Its mobility and dispersal, therefore, makes it superior to missiles of a similar class. Agni-III has high survivability and agility of response, too.
Besides, it is a “fire and forget missile”. It has sophisticated software developed by DRDO engineers and all that has to be done is to feed the coordinates into the missile’s onboard computer. The missile will assess the performance of each and every subsystem during the flight, compute the best path it should take and reach within metres of the target. A separate software guides it to the target. The missile is immune to external interference after its lift-off.
 

niteshkjain

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http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IEQ20080525233709&Page=Q&Title=Orissa&Topic=0

Agni IV ready to take off
Monday May 26 2008 09:58 IST
Hemanth Kumar


BALASORE: If everything goes according to defence scientists’ plans, nuke-capable and most powerful longest range missile Agni-IV will in India’s arsenal soon.

This has been envisaged as after the successful test-firing of 3000-km range ballistic missile Agni-III earlier this month, defence scientists have already started planning for the maiden test of Agni-IV.

“This 5,000-km range missile has already been developed. The missile will be tested from the Wheeler Island only after scientists get the government nod, which could be anytime this year,” a source at the Chandipur defence base told this website's newspaper on Sunday.

“But before that, India will also carry out further tests of its special naval missile, an acronym used by DRDO scientists for a submarine launched ballistic missile and the second test of interceptor missile, for which preparations are on here,” the source added.

The scientists working in the DRDO are a delighted lot because they are planning for the first test-flight of the country’s longest range missile at the time, perfectly 19 years after the first test of the Agni missile.

India’s most sophisticated and indigenously developed Agni was first tested on May 22, 1989 from the Integrated (then Interim) Test Range (ITR) here.

The Agni-IV missile, which will surpass all the previous three versions of the missile, will be surface-based, solid and liquid-propellant ballistic missile and equipped with inertial guidance systems with an improved optical or radar terminal phase co-relation system.

The missile also possesses a submarine launch capability. It would be virtually indestructible and unstoppable in times of war.

Defence experts said launching of the 5,000-km range missile would entail strapping third stage booster rocket on Agni-IV missiles powered by solid fuel propellant.

Its success will propel the country into the select group of nations which have long range ballistic missiles.

So expect more fireworks in terms of ABM systems and naval missiles. Best of luck to DRDO guys. :)
 

niteshkjain

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http://www.rediff.com/news/2008/jun/08sam.htm

India searches for a missile to guard installations
Sumir Kaul in Berlin
June 08, 2008 16:07 IST

India has decided to go global to procure the quick reaction Surface to Air Missile System as the Trishul Missile project, being developed as an interceptor to protect the country's vital installations, is yet to be completed.

Though New Delhi was planning to import such intercepting missiles from Israel, the talks seem to have gone into a cold storage as the role of the Israeli firm, which had imported seven such missiles in 2000 had come under CBI scanner for alleged payments to the middlemen.

"We are waiting for the Request For Proposal from the Government of India for the quick range Surface to Air Missile Systems," says Chief Executive officer of MBDA, Antoine Bouvier.

The company -- consortia of EADS (Germany [Images]), BAe Systems (Britain) and Finmeccanica (Italy [Images]) -- has been holding talks with Defence Research and Development organisation and Bharat Dynamics Limited to work out on the offsets.

MBDA, in which EADS is one of the major stake-holders, is one of the leading missile developers in Europe. The company is not averse to the transfer of technology to India.

'We know what cooperation means...we have a huge potential for cooperation with India,' Bouvier said.


And he says it would be a smooth run-up for transfer of technology as the French government had already approved transfer of technology to India, a country which is being perceived as the best bet for being a global partner.

The defence ministry, which had taken up the stand that work on Trishul was still going on, was preparing for floating the RFP and procuring the anti-missile system as quickly as possible.

Trishul (Sanskrit for trident) is the name of a short range surface-to-air missile which was being developed as part of the Integrated Guided Missile Development Programme designed to be used against low-level (sea skimming) targets at short range.

Defence analysts argue that Trishul missile system is not a failure but technically its performance objectives as per original Qualitative Requirements (QRs) are delayed. The main reasons for this delay are technical problems in achieving perfect 3-beam guidance and obtaining millimetric wave components from abroad.

Due to the delay of Trishul missile system, its users -- Army, Air Force and Navy -- have resorted to acquisition from abroad as the QRs and operational requirements got modified over time.

The MBDA is offering the missile with a range of 15 kilometres for all versions for Army, Indian Air Force and Navy.

"The quick reaction Surface to Air Missile, which has a jointly developed millimetre wave, is also in tandem in carrying the warhead," Bouvier said.
 

aaaditya

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i guess now vls mica is the frontrunner,mbda also has a joint venture agreement with india for the joint development of a quick reaction short ranged surface to air missile called as the maitri(friendship).
 

niteshkjain

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http://forceindia.net/feature4.asp

Based on the IAF’s Air Staff Qualitative Requirements, the conventionally armed ADM (carrying a 300kg warhead) is required to have a range of 700km and be flight-qualified on both the Su-30MKI and the Dassault Mirage 2000TH. The tactical nuclear warhead-armed ADM will be required to have a range of 1,200km. Both variants will each be powered by a liquid-fuelled ramjet incorporating integrated accelerators. The ADM will have a maximum weight of no more than 900kg, length of 5.4 metres, diameter of 300mm, width of 0.98 metres, and cruise speed of Mach 2.2 at an altitude of 200 metres, which will increase to Mach 3 in its terminal cruise phase at an altitude of 50 metres.
 

Aliph Ahmed

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http://forceindia.net/feature4.asp

Based on the IAF’s Air Staff Qualitative Requirements, the conventionally armed ADM (carrying a 300kg warhead) is required to have a range of 700km and be flight-qualified on both the Su-30MKI and the Dassault Mirage 2000TH. The tactical nuclear warhead-armed ADM will be required to have a range of 1,200km. Both variants will each be powered by a liquid-fuelled ramjet incorporating integrated accelerators. The ADM will have a maximum weight of no more than 900kg, length of 5.4 metres, diameter of 300mm, width of 0.98 metres, and cruise speed of Mach 2.2 at an altitude of 200 metres, which will increase to Mach 3 in its terminal cruise phase at an altitude of 50 metres.
That sure " will " be very serious capability when operational.

How many Brahmos missiles do India plans to induct as Russia has flatly refused to induct any citing their constituional Laws ?

Last I read, India inducted only 12 or so missiles to date. (Please correct me on the numbers)
 

niteshkjain

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http://www.financialexpress.com/news/Long-range-missile-set-for-launch-test-in-Tel-Aviv/321994/

Long-range missile set for launch test in Tel Aviv
Huma Siddiqui
Posted online: Friday , June 13, 2008 at 2225 hrs IST



New Delhi, Jun 12 The long-range surface to air missile (LRSAM), which is jointly developed by Defence Research and Development Laboratory, Hyderabad with second biggest weapons supplier Israel, is ready to go for launch test to Tel Aviv.

The $350-million covered a joint Indian-Israeli development agreement in 2006 under the UPA government, to create a new medium shipborne air defense missile, based on the Barak system in service with both navies.

According to sources, under the contract Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI) and its Israeli partners have agreed to transfer all relevant technologies and manufacturing capabilities to India, and to start delivering in 65 months’ time.

The systems’ critical design review is complete, the 2-pulse rocket motor has been successfully tested statically and has been delivered to Israel for launch test. Sources said the test is scheduled to take place in June-end and early next month, and this will be followed by control and navigation test later this year.

While the initial funding is about $350 million, of which IAI will finance 50%, additional funding will be infused by both parties as needed. Israel also has projected some requirements for long-range Barak air defense systems, and it could source missiles and other systems from India, he said.

The agreement paves the way to meet the immediate requirements of the Indian Navy, the scientist said. Under this agreement, the Defence Research and Development Laboratory and IAI will develop six long-range Barak systems for India’s stealth warships. The Navy is procuring three such warships from Russia, and the remaining will be built by the state-owned Mazagon Docks.

A senior defence ministry official said there will be a transformation in the requirements of air defense systems for the three Indian military services. Based on these projections and the high cost of air defense systems, the ministry has approved the initiatives under which, state-owned agencies can forge joint co-development and co-production ventures with foreign Companies.
 

niteshkjain

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That sure " will " be very serious capability when operational.

How many Brahmos missiles do India plans to induct as Russia has flatly refused to induct any citing their constituional Laws ?

Last I read, India inducted only 12 or so missiles to date. (Please correct me on the numbers)
Please provide the link for your read, and Russia has to change her's constitution because if they keep there constitution in this way they will not be able to induct PAK-FA also:)
 

Aliph Ahmed

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Please provide the link for your read, and Russia has to change her's constitution because if they keep there constitution in this way they will not be able to induct PAK-FA also:)
I couldnt find that article so I had to do extra work to support my claim. Oh well, here it is :

As per the following article, production of Brahmos is to reach double at 50 missiles per year in 2008. Therefore, half of double 50 is 25 so it is common sense to conclude that only 25 were produced in 2007. (Under the best of best scenarios and there is no confirmation if 25 were indeed produced. The number could be far less)

http://www.*************.com/reports/3675

Now as per this article dated 7/10/2007, only one ship INS Rajput was armed with 4 Brahmos and Indian Army recieved its first batch of truck mounted brahmos. Each truck carries 3 missiles.

http://www.*************.com/reports/3675

As per this article dated 2/16/2007, only two trucks were inducted with the rest to be delivered in July of 2008. That is 6 Brahmos inducted in Indian Army during 2007.

http://www.*************.com/reports/3675

Now if you calculate with the calculator, Indian Navy recieved 4 and Indian Army recieved 6 in 2007. That is a total of only 10 Brahmos Missiles deployed in 2007. Now even if we assume (No confirmation) that INS Ranjit also recieved 4 that that is still only 14 missiles delivered in 2007.

and as far as PAK-FA is concerend. Please spare me the Joint Production slogan title. I wil discuss it in the airforce thread about the actual amount of Indian contribution other then money.
 

niteshkjain

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I couldnt find that article so I had to do extra work to support my claim. Oh well, here it is :

As per the following article, production of Brahmos is to reach double at 50 missiles per year in 2008. Therefore, half of double 50 is 25 so it is common sense to conclude that only 25 were produced in 2007. (Under the best of best scenarios and there is no confirmation if 25 were indeed produced. The number could be far less)

http://www.*************.com/reports/3675

Now as per this article dated 7/10/2007, only one ship INS Rajput was armed with 4 Brahmos and Indian Army recieved its first batch of truck mounted brahmos. Each truck carries 3 missiles.

http://www.*************.com/reports/3675

As per this article dated 2/16/2007, only two trucks were inducted with the rest to be delivered in July of 2008. That is 6 Brahmos inducted in Indian Army during 2007.

http://www.*************.com/reports/3675

Now if you calculate with the calculator, Indian Navy recieved 4 and Indian Army recieved 6 in 2007. That is a total of only 10 Brahmos Missiles deployed in 2007. Now even if we assume (No confirmation) that INS Ranjit also recieved 4 that that is still only 14 missiles delivered in 2007.

and as far as PAK-FA is concerend. Please spare me the Joint Production slogan title. I wil discuss it in the airforce thread about the actual amount of Indian contribution other then money.
Hey thanks for the info but they are not working, don't take me wrong when I request you for something please. I was just trying to say that russians are/have to change there constitution for making the joint projects/production or else they will not be able to induct any of the systems and there money will just go wested. I just used PAK-FA as an example.
 
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