I am inclined to believe that news about Aegis is a marketing ploy by LM/US in response to India sending out RFI for Stealth AAW frigates to European, Russian and Korean Shipyards. No RFI was sent out to any US shipyard. IN/GOI is committed to Barak II, only question to which we don't know the answer is RADAR.
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contedicavour
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Interesting... though I imagine Lockheed Martin got US Congress clearance before sending such rumours into the market. So if an outright offer by the US company does come out, it will be interesting to see if and how India will refuse it...
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hey guys,check out this interesting link and article,it gives some information about the pipavav shipyard to be built in india ,this shipyard being built at pipavav would be strategically locates between the busy ports of kandla and mumbai and will be built on a 175 acre site,this port will be able to manufacture the entire range of vessels from aircraft cariers to luxury liners,this shipyard will have the capacity of 300000 tons dead weight tonnage,more than 2 times that of the current largest indian shipyards at cochin(125000 dwt)where the indian aircraft carrier is being built,this shipyard will be able to build upto 12 large ships simultaneously.
That is interesting news as it will certainly provide a huge boost to India's shipbuilding capacity. BTW, aaaditya, the link was missed from the post.
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contedicavour
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Thanks for the article ! This may pave the way for joint work on the mysterious joint LHD and on an Indian version of FREMM FFGs ... plus EH101 heavy multirole naval helos.Contedicavour may find this interesting.
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Are we looking at some major design/development activity here? You don't talk about IP related issues otherwise.
Look forward to more cooperation !
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what type of naval combat systems are they talking about,india has already developed an indigenous naval combat management system known as the emmca and have deployed it on the brahmaputra class of vessels?
hey guys,great news,coast guard has unveiled its major expansion plans on the eve of its 30th anniversary,they are planning to develop a deep water capability and are currently constructing 5 fast patrol vessels,2 advanced offshore patrol vessels,3 pollution control vessels ,3 inshore patrol vessels and 11 interceptor boats,in addition to the 76 vessels and 45 aircrafts that they currently operate,they also have plans to acquire 15 new major ships and 23 aircrafts,including maritime patrol aircrafts,helicopters and unmanned aerial vehicles.
here check out this link and article:
http://www.dailyindia.com/show/109269.php/Coast-guard-unfolds-ambitious-expansion-plans-on-30th-eve
Coast guard unfolds ambitious expansion plans on 30th eve
New Delhi, Jan 31 (ANI): The Indian coast guard is busy preparing itself to meet the threat of global terrorism, besides maintaining a vigil along the 7516 kilometres long Indian coastline.
The coast guard, which came into being in 1977, has grown from a small force with two frigates and five patrol boats leased from the Indian navy into a formidable force today comprising 76 ships and 45 aircraft.
Announcing the ambitious expansion plans on the occasion of the eve of the 30th anniversary of the force, Vice Admiral R F Contractor, Director General, Coast Guard said here today that, "More ways and means will have to found to cater to the expansion plans of the service, like going in for more private shipyards and streamlining of procedures."
Vice Admiral Contractor also said that the coast guard had plans to develop 'deep water capability' by adding more ships with a larger displacement and more tonnage.
There was need to evolve an efficient regional maritime safety and security mechanism to guard the national maritime assets for which the Indian Coast Guard is stepping up its surveillance capabilities. It is currently looking at the construction of 5 fast patrol vessels, 2 advanced offshore patrol vessels, 3 pollution control vessels, 3 inshore patrol vessels and 11 interceptor boats.
The integrated expansion plan of the coast guard also envisages acquisition of 15 major new ships and 23 aircraft which include the multi-mission maritime aircraft, twin engine helicopters and Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs), to enhance surface and aerial surveillance capability.
Three new coast guard stations at Puducherry, Beypore (Kerala) and Kakinada will also come up soon, which will assume great importance with oil and gas finds off Chennai and the Krishna Godavari basin.
For the multi-mission maritime aircraft, the global tender would be floated soon and talks would be held with vendors at the Aero-India show in Bangalore early next month, after witnessing the performance of various aircraft.
Also in the offing are 82 marine police stations, with 68 in the mainland, 4 in Lakshadweep and 10 in Andaman and Nicobar islands, where the state police personnel would be trained by the coast guard to be functional at the various coasts.
India, the world's third largest consumer of petroleum products, has 95 percent of its trade through the sea, which is carried out through 11 major ports and 180 minor ports.
Answering questions about the acute shortage of manpower in the service, Contractor further elaborated that around 25 percent shortage in the officer cadre, 13 percent among sailors and 23 percent civilians was a matter of concern but it was being discussed with the Finance Ministry, who had agreed to increase the number of seats in the service.
here check out this link and article:
http://www.dailyindia.com/show/109269.php/Coast-guard-unfolds-ambitious-expansion-plans-on-30th-eve
Coast guard unfolds ambitious expansion plans on 30th eve
New Delhi, Jan 31 (ANI): The Indian coast guard is busy preparing itself to meet the threat of global terrorism, besides maintaining a vigil along the 7516 kilometres long Indian coastline.
The coast guard, which came into being in 1977, has grown from a small force with two frigates and five patrol boats leased from the Indian navy into a formidable force today comprising 76 ships and 45 aircraft.
Announcing the ambitious expansion plans on the occasion of the eve of the 30th anniversary of the force, Vice Admiral R F Contractor, Director General, Coast Guard said here today that, "More ways and means will have to found to cater to the expansion plans of the service, like going in for more private shipyards and streamlining of procedures."
Vice Admiral Contractor also said that the coast guard had plans to develop 'deep water capability' by adding more ships with a larger displacement and more tonnage.
There was need to evolve an efficient regional maritime safety and security mechanism to guard the national maritime assets for which the Indian Coast Guard is stepping up its surveillance capabilities. It is currently looking at the construction of 5 fast patrol vessels, 2 advanced offshore patrol vessels, 3 pollution control vessels, 3 inshore patrol vessels and 11 interceptor boats.
The integrated expansion plan of the coast guard also envisages acquisition of 15 major new ships and 23 aircraft which include the multi-mission maritime aircraft, twin engine helicopters and Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs), to enhance surface and aerial surveillance capability.
Three new coast guard stations at Puducherry, Beypore (Kerala) and Kakinada will also come up soon, which will assume great importance with oil and gas finds off Chennai and the Krishna Godavari basin.
For the multi-mission maritime aircraft, the global tender would be floated soon and talks would be held with vendors at the Aero-India show in Bangalore early next month, after witnessing the performance of various aircraft.
Also in the offing are 82 marine police stations, with 68 in the mainland, 4 in Lakshadweep and 10 in Andaman and Nicobar islands, where the state police personnel would be trained by the coast guard to be functional at the various coasts.
India, the world's third largest consumer of petroleum products, has 95 percent of its trade through the sea, which is carried out through 11 major ports and 180 minor ports.
Answering questions about the acute shortage of manpower in the service, Contractor further elaborated that around 25 percent shortage in the officer cadre, 13 percent among sailors and 23 percent civilians was a matter of concern but it was being discussed with the Finance Ministry, who had agreed to increase the number of seats in the service.
sorry about that buddy,i was just about to post the link ,when we suffered a powerfailure and had to take emergency measures to protect my ups.
anyway here is the link and article:
http://www.businessstandard.com/common/storypage.php?autono=273145&leftnm=3&subLeft=0&chkFlg=
Acquisition in Sea King Infrastructure-promoted shipyard worth Rs 104 cr. Trinity Capital has bought a 10.43 per cent stake in Pipavav Shipyard Ltd, promoted by Nikhil Gandhi-backed Sea King Infrastructure, for Rs 104 crore. Existing investors in Pipavav Shipyard include financial institutions such as IL&FS and Exim Bank, which have a majority 51 per cent stake in the company. “The acquisition is the second investment we have made with our strategic partner IL&FS in the infrastructure sector in India. Our participation in this deal represents a strategic investment that will give Trinity exposure to ship building, one of the fastest growing sectors in India,” said Ashish Kalra, managing director of Trikona, the asset manager for Trinity Capital. Pipavav Shipyard plans to build the largest integrated ship building yard in India, which will also be the fifth largest in the world, near the Pipavav port in Gujarat. The shipyard will have a capacity of 300,000 tonnes (dead weight tonnage). Currently, the largest shipyard in India is in Kochi and has a capacity of 125,000 tonnes. The Pipavav port was developed by the Nikhil Gandhi group and is now handled by Maersk. The 175-acre shipyard will have the capability to build ships and vessel types ranging from aircraft carriers and luxury liners to oil tankers. It will have the capacity to build 12 large ships simultaneously. The project is likely to see investments of Rs 8,000 crore over the next 7 years. The shipyard will be strategically located between the two busy ports of Kandla and Mumbai. It will also be the only major shipyard between Dubai and Singapore. As part of the transaction, Trinity will be building a 150 acre township in the vicinity of the shipyard. This will provide housing, recreational facilities, schools, hospitals and commercial offices.
hey guys,great news ,mazagaon docks limited has decided to do away with governement formalities and to launch the scorpene submarine programme.
here check out this link and article:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/..._not_wait_for_busy_PM/articleshow/1548119.cms
MUMBAI: Mazagon dock, India's premiere warship building centre that is over 200 years old, has done something revolutionary while inaugurating a new project, considering that it is a government-run organisation. For the first time it has decided not to wait for VIPs to bless the new programme and instead adhered to its original schedule.
The plan relates to the construction of the six French-assisted Scorpene submarines at the dock's East Yard. Since it was a prestigious programme, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh was scheduled to formally inaugurate it in the middle of December 2006.
Preparations were on in full throttle for the VVIP's visit. But, to the disappointment of the dock officials, a few days before the inauguration, they were informed that Singh would not be able to make it as he had other engagements.
The question then was whether to reschedule the inauguration or wait for the Prime Minister? Keeping in mind the importance of the submarine project and the needs of the Indian Navy, dock officials decided to cut the first metal of the submarine according to the original plan, but without the usual fanfare which accompanies the visits of VIPs.
A senior dock executive said: "This is the first time that we inaugurated a new project without the presence of a VVIP or the media."
At one point the possibility of inviting defence minister A K Anthony to inaugurate the submarine project was also explored. But, since the PMO has not officially turned down the invitation even after one-and-a-half months, the dock could not approach Anthony.
The programme envisages the first of the six submarines being handed over to the Indian Navy in 2012. Thereafter, one submarine will be commissioned to the navy each year.
The total cost of the project is Rs 13,000 crores and there is an option for six more submarines.
These submarines have a radical new design with reduced sound emissions which enables the vessels to strike at long distances without detection. It is equipped with a hi-tech combat management system.
here check out this link and article:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/..._not_wait_for_busy_PM/articleshow/1548119.cms
MUMBAI: Mazagon dock, India's premiere warship building centre that is over 200 years old, has done something revolutionary while inaugurating a new project, considering that it is a government-run organisation. For the first time it has decided not to wait for VIPs to bless the new programme and instead adhered to its original schedule.
The plan relates to the construction of the six French-assisted Scorpene submarines at the dock's East Yard. Since it was a prestigious programme, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh was scheduled to formally inaugurate it in the middle of December 2006.
Preparations were on in full throttle for the VVIP's visit. But, to the disappointment of the dock officials, a few days before the inauguration, they were informed that Singh would not be able to make it as he had other engagements.
The question then was whether to reschedule the inauguration or wait for the Prime Minister? Keeping in mind the importance of the submarine project and the needs of the Indian Navy, dock officials decided to cut the first metal of the submarine according to the original plan, but without the usual fanfare which accompanies the visits of VIPs.
A senior dock executive said: "This is the first time that we inaugurated a new project without the presence of a VVIP or the media."
At one point the possibility of inviting defence minister A K Anthony to inaugurate the submarine project was also explored. But, since the PMO has not officially turned down the invitation even after one-and-a-half months, the dock could not approach Anthony.
The programme envisages the first of the six submarines being handed over to the Indian Navy in 2012. Thereafter, one submarine will be commissioned to the navy each year.
The total cost of the project is Rs 13,000 crores and there is an option for six more submarines.
These submarines have a radical new design with reduced sound emissions which enables the vessels to strike at long distances without detection. It is equipped with a hi-tech combat management system.
contedicavour
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I remember reading a few years ago that the Kashin DDGs had a modified Italian SADOC-2 combat management system installed in the '80s.
I don't know anything more about the article, but possibly the emmca is considered fine for FFGs but not for larger vessels such as aircraft carriers or LHDs ? Hence a emmca-plus with Italian components for large task forces coordination ?
I'll keep my ears open in case the returning Italian delegation says something once it is back from India. Though my n°1 priority is the LHD so if we can find common ground it'll get the green light sooner rather than later
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i also believe that there are interesting opportunities in the joint development of the s1000 class of submarines.I remember reading a few years ago that the Kashin DDGs had a modified Italian SADOC-2 combat management system installed in the '80s.
I don't know anything more about the article, but possibly the emmca is considered fine for FFGs but not for larger vessels such as aircraft carriers or LHDs ? Hence a emmca-plus with Italian components for large task forces coordination ?
I'll keep my ears open in case the returning Italian delegation says something once it is back from India. Though my n°1 priority is the LHD so if we can find common ground it'll get the green light sooner rather than later
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hey guys,check out this interesting article,it seems that the indian navy has completed the acquisition of 5000 acres of land for setting up a second naval base at rambili on the east coast.
here is the link:
http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?category=National&id=100236
The Indian Navy plans to set up its second base at Visakhapatnam in Andhra Pradesh that could take care of several strategic interests on the East Coast.
"We have recently acquired 5,000 acres for the Navy, for them to set up an alternate Naval Base Centre,'' said K Ramakrishna, Incharge Minister, Visakhapatnam.
The base, which will be located 50 km south of Vizag in Rambilli Mandal, will have comprehensive anti-air, anti-submarine and amphibious capability.
Ideal alternative
The location of the new base is said to be ideal as it is away from the heart of the Bay of Bengal and the Indian Ocean.
It is also away from Bangladesh and Myanmar where the Chinese naval presence poses a threat to India.
Experts say an alternate base for the Navy has become a necessity also because of the increase in traffic at this existing port, which is shared by the Indian Navy and the Vizag Port Trust.
The Visakhapatnam port is one of the country's main ports and an exclusive enclave for the Navy will mean an increase in the efficiency of the port's commercial operations.
"We share the channel with the Navy and in a way it does effect the port in terms of movements because very often we are required to give priority movements to the navy and it in turn effects our efficiency parameters,'' said M S Rao, Deputy Chairman, Vizag Port Trust.
The new naval base is expected to be commissioned by 2015.
here is the link:
http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmorestory.asp?category=National&id=100236
The Indian Navy plans to set up its second base at Visakhapatnam in Andhra Pradesh that could take care of several strategic interests on the East Coast.
"We have recently acquired 5,000 acres for the Navy, for them to set up an alternate Naval Base Centre,'' said K Ramakrishna, Incharge Minister, Visakhapatnam.
The base, which will be located 50 km south of Vizag in Rambilli Mandal, will have comprehensive anti-air, anti-submarine and amphibious capability.
Ideal alternative
The location of the new base is said to be ideal as it is away from the heart of the Bay of Bengal and the Indian Ocean.
It is also away from Bangladesh and Myanmar where the Chinese naval presence poses a threat to India.
Experts say an alternate base for the Navy has become a necessity also because of the increase in traffic at this existing port, which is shared by the Indian Navy and the Vizag Port Trust.
The Visakhapatnam port is one of the country's main ports and an exclusive enclave for the Navy will mean an increase in the efficiency of the port's commercial operations.
"We share the channel with the Navy and in a way it does effect the port in terms of movements because very often we are required to give priority movements to the navy and it in turn effects our efficiency parameters,'' said M S Rao, Deputy Chairman, Vizag Port Trust.
The new naval base is expected to be commissioned by 2015.
contedicavour
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Yep though I imagine India will be looking for a oceangoing larger version of the S1000 (more a sort of coastal SSK) which luckily enough is modular since its conception
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hey guys,great news here,indian navy is to conduct massive wargames known as tropex and will also involve elements from the army,airforce and coastguard.
here check out this link and article:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Navy_to_conduct_massive_wargames/articleshow/1552917.cms
NEW DELHI: In one of the largest maritime exercises in recent times, India's western and eastern naval fleets have amassed their warships, submarines, aircraft and helicopters on the western seaboard to conduct intensive combat manoeuvres in the entire Arabian Sea.
Given the sheer size of this "theatre readiness operational exercise"or "Tropex"and its proximity to the Pakistani waters, New Delhi has given "advance notice"to Islamabad under a long-standing bilateral agreement.
The agreement, inked in April 1991, is a safeguard to prevent "any crisis situation"from developing due to "misreading"of the each other's "intentions"during the conduct of large wargames.
Sources said Navy Chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta and Army Chief General J J Singh will be witnessing the "work up"of the two fleets on Friday, which will be followed by the "tactical phase"of the exercise later this month.
"Over 50 frontline warships, including aircraft carrier 'INS Viraat', Delhi-class destroyers, Talwar-class stealth frigates and Kilo-class submarines, will be part of Tropex,"said a source.
"Tropex will also include elements from the Army, IAF and Coast Guard. From the IAF, for instance, maritime strike Jaguar fighters will take part in the manoeuvres,"he added.
Apart from its sheer scale, the exercise is significant since one of its objectives will be to practice the operational concept of "maritime manoeuvre from the sea".
The concept is basically designed to ensure that in the short, swift and intense conflicts of the future, the Navy is able to favourably influence the outcome of the land-air battle.
here check out this link and article:
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Navy_to_conduct_massive_wargames/articleshow/1552917.cms
NEW DELHI: In one of the largest maritime exercises in recent times, India's western and eastern naval fleets have amassed their warships, submarines, aircraft and helicopters on the western seaboard to conduct intensive combat manoeuvres in the entire Arabian Sea.
Given the sheer size of this "theatre readiness operational exercise"or "Tropex"and its proximity to the Pakistani waters, New Delhi has given "advance notice"to Islamabad under a long-standing bilateral agreement.
The agreement, inked in April 1991, is a safeguard to prevent "any crisis situation"from developing due to "misreading"of the each other's "intentions"during the conduct of large wargames.
Sources said Navy Chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta and Army Chief General J J Singh will be witnessing the "work up"of the two fleets on Friday, which will be followed by the "tactical phase"of the exercise later this month.
"Over 50 frontline warships, including aircraft carrier 'INS Viraat', Delhi-class destroyers, Talwar-class stealth frigates and Kilo-class submarines, will be part of Tropex,"said a source.
"Tropex will also include elements from the Army, IAF and Coast Guard. From the IAF, for instance, maritime strike Jaguar fighters will take part in the manoeuvres,"he added.
Apart from its sheer scale, the exercise is significant since one of its objectives will be to practice the operational concept of "maritime manoeuvre from the sea".
The concept is basically designed to ensure that in the short, swift and intense conflicts of the future, the Navy is able to favourably influence the outcome of the land-air battle.
hey guys,great news here ,indian navy is to have a dedicated surveillance and communication satellite.
here check out this interesting link and article:
http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=153705
The Indian Navy is increasing its capabilities as a true blue-water navy. Having declared this year as the ‘year of networking for efficiency and combat power,’ it is seeking to enhance the use of modern technology to face the challenges of the 21st century.
Accordingly, the Navy Enterprise Wide Network (NEWN), a high-speed data network that links up the command headquarters to field units, is being expanded to link up all shore-based installations and warships as well. Discussions are also on with ISRO for a dedicated satellite.
The Indian Navy’s enterprise wide network is part of the ongoing strategy to move from a platform-centric force to a network-centric force. The idea is to enhance the capabilities of its sensors and weapons, whether the vessels are ashore, seaborne, airborne or under water.
The networking, using advanced computers, high-speed data links and networking software, will enable the naval combatants to share a common, composite and real-time picture so that a frigate whose helicopter has detected a lurking submarine would not have to wait for the ‘contact’ to come within its torpedo range.
Instead, someone else who could take on the hostile vessel immediately, using instantly available information and everybody would know what is going on. Recently, a special task force has been formed to expand the scope of the Indian Navy’s enterprise wide network.
The Indian initiative, however, pales when compared to the monolithic Global Information Grid that the Pentagon has been building for the past six years to provide the commanders and troops of all US services—Army, Navy, marines and air force—a moving picture of all enemies and threats anywhere on Earth. Imagine an American sergeant in a far-off place being able to see on his laptop, naval battle imagery from a spy satellite. Sounds interesting, isn’t it?
“The Indian Navy’s aim is to become a ‘network-centric’ force, to connect Indian naval ships, submarines, aircraft, and shore bases through a satellite-based data link,” says Rear Admiral Pradeep Chauhan. Once that is done, it will be possible to interlink long-range missiles, radars and sensors on the warships through satellite.
Highly placed sources in the defence ministry inform that there are plans at ISRO to launch a dedicated satellite for use by the armed forces. It could also be used by other Indian surveillance agencies. The backbone of the Navy’s network-centric warfare will be a communications satellite, largely dedicated to the Indian Navy. The satellite will be up in space in less than two years, and should become operational soon thereafter.
The Indian Navy wants to fuse its well-dispersed combat assets with data links to be able to deploy their synergy wherever required. “Because of the networking, a ship or aircraft’s capabilities would no longer be limited to what it has onboard but would expand to the combined capacities of all the platforms,” officials say. However, weaving of weapons, sensors, intelligence and communications into a seamless web is full of challenges —technical, financial and military. The militaries have to find new and totally reliable encryption and data protection technologies capable of making secure the oceans of data flowing through the connectivity at a tremendous speed. Besides, they require much larger bandwidth to be able to supply real-time picture. Once the satellite and its transponders are operational, Indian naval ships, submarines and aircraft will be able to exchange and transfer real-time data with each other.
here check out this interesting link and article:
http://www.financialexpress.com/fe_full_story.php?content_id=153705
The Indian Navy is increasing its capabilities as a true blue-water navy. Having declared this year as the ‘year of networking for efficiency and combat power,’ it is seeking to enhance the use of modern technology to face the challenges of the 21st century.
Accordingly, the Navy Enterprise Wide Network (NEWN), a high-speed data network that links up the command headquarters to field units, is being expanded to link up all shore-based installations and warships as well. Discussions are also on with ISRO for a dedicated satellite.
The Indian Navy’s enterprise wide network is part of the ongoing strategy to move from a platform-centric force to a network-centric force. The idea is to enhance the capabilities of its sensors and weapons, whether the vessels are ashore, seaborne, airborne or under water.
The networking, using advanced computers, high-speed data links and networking software, will enable the naval combatants to share a common, composite and real-time picture so that a frigate whose helicopter has detected a lurking submarine would not have to wait for the ‘contact’ to come within its torpedo range.
Instead, someone else who could take on the hostile vessel immediately, using instantly available information and everybody would know what is going on. Recently, a special task force has been formed to expand the scope of the Indian Navy’s enterprise wide network.
The Indian initiative, however, pales when compared to the monolithic Global Information Grid that the Pentagon has been building for the past six years to provide the commanders and troops of all US services—Army, Navy, marines and air force—a moving picture of all enemies and threats anywhere on Earth. Imagine an American sergeant in a far-off place being able to see on his laptop, naval battle imagery from a spy satellite. Sounds interesting, isn’t it?
“The Indian Navy’s aim is to become a ‘network-centric’ force, to connect Indian naval ships, submarines, aircraft, and shore bases through a satellite-based data link,” says Rear Admiral Pradeep Chauhan. Once that is done, it will be possible to interlink long-range missiles, radars and sensors on the warships through satellite.
Highly placed sources in the defence ministry inform that there are plans at ISRO to launch a dedicated satellite for use by the armed forces. It could also be used by other Indian surveillance agencies. The backbone of the Navy’s network-centric warfare will be a communications satellite, largely dedicated to the Indian Navy. The satellite will be up in space in less than two years, and should become operational soon thereafter.
The Indian Navy wants to fuse its well-dispersed combat assets with data links to be able to deploy their synergy wherever required. “Because of the networking, a ship or aircraft’s capabilities would no longer be limited to what it has onboard but would expand to the combined capacities of all the platforms,” officials say. However, weaving of weapons, sensors, intelligence and communications into a seamless web is full of challenges —technical, financial and military. The militaries have to find new and totally reliable encryption and data protection technologies capable of making secure the oceans of data flowing through the connectivity at a tremendous speed. Besides, they require much larger bandwidth to be able to supply real-time picture. Once the satellite and its transponders are operational, Indian naval ships, submarines and aircraft will be able to exchange and transfer real-time data with each other.
hey guys ,great news here ,indian navy is now looking at only two possible contenders for its maritime patrol aircraft acquisition programme,the competition is now between the boeing p8i mma and the airbus /casa a319 solutions.
here check out this link and article:
http://www.defensenews.com/aero/story.php?id=2539163
After years of negotiations over its future maritime patrol aircraft, the Indian Navy has decided neither the Lockheed P-3C Orion nor the Ilyushin Il-38 are advanced enough to meet its needs, a senior Indian Navy official said last month.
Instead, Navy officials are inviting Boeing’s P-8I and EADS CASA’s Airbus A319 to be tested in a still-open 2005 tender for eight aircraft to replace aging P-3s. A decision is expect by year’s end.
The tender, whose value is estimated at $800 million, seeks an aircraft that can serve for 25 years; endure a year-long trial period; fly for eight hours without refueling; hunt submarines; and carry mines, torpedoes and anti-ship missiles.
France’s Dassault also bid last April, but was not selected for further study.
The P-8, which is being built for the U.S. Navy, is a variant of the 737-800. India is being offered the P-8I, the first variant offered internationally, said Tim Norgart, director of business development, Airborne, Anti-Submarine Warfare & Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance Systems. The P-8I has a range of 4,800 nautical miles, or double that with aerial refueling, Norgart said.
The EADS CASA entrant has a 2,000-nautical-mile range and cannot be refueled in the air, said Fernando Ciria, head of marketing, EADS CASA Mission Aircraft.
“We convert the A319 with sonar launchers, bomb bay, missile sensors, radar, [infrared sensors]. This is the first time EADS has modified an A319 for this purpose,” Ciria said.
The plane would get the Fully Integrated Tactical System, which is in use on the EADS CASA C-295, C-212, CN-235 and P-3 Orion.
Ciria said offset arrangements may give the edge to EADS.
“The first prototypes will be built in Spain and remainder built in India. We are doing a survey of local industries for the offset of the remaining eight,” said Ciria.
Boeing is in discussions about offsets, but nothing has been agreed to at this point, said Norgart. “Discussions on incorporating the Indian equipment is still ongoing,” he said.
Boeing may not be able to provide an actual P-8I aircraft in time for this year’s trials; Norgart said the company may send a “representative aircraft” instead. He said the P-8A aircraft for the U.S. Navy is at the critical review stage in March, with operational capability beginning in 2013.
by the way the p8i may be flying to india this year for evaluation by the indian navy.
here check out this link and article:
http://www.defensenews.com/aero/story.php?id=2539163
After years of negotiations over its future maritime patrol aircraft, the Indian Navy has decided neither the Lockheed P-3C Orion nor the Ilyushin Il-38 are advanced enough to meet its needs, a senior Indian Navy official said last month.
Instead, Navy officials are inviting Boeing’s P-8I and EADS CASA’s Airbus A319 to be tested in a still-open 2005 tender for eight aircraft to replace aging P-3s. A decision is expect by year’s end.
The tender, whose value is estimated at $800 million, seeks an aircraft that can serve for 25 years; endure a year-long trial period; fly for eight hours without refueling; hunt submarines; and carry mines, torpedoes and anti-ship missiles.
France’s Dassault also bid last April, but was not selected for further study.
The P-8, which is being built for the U.S. Navy, is a variant of the 737-800. India is being offered the P-8I, the first variant offered internationally, said Tim Norgart, director of business development, Airborne, Anti-Submarine Warfare & Intelligence, Surveillance and Reconnaissance Systems. The P-8I has a range of 4,800 nautical miles, or double that with aerial refueling, Norgart said.
The EADS CASA entrant has a 2,000-nautical-mile range and cannot be refueled in the air, said Fernando Ciria, head of marketing, EADS CASA Mission Aircraft.
“We convert the A319 with sonar launchers, bomb bay, missile sensors, radar, [infrared sensors]. This is the first time EADS has modified an A319 for this purpose,” Ciria said.
The plane would get the Fully Integrated Tactical System, which is in use on the EADS CASA C-295, C-212, CN-235 and P-3 Orion.
Ciria said offset arrangements may give the edge to EADS.
“The first prototypes will be built in Spain and remainder built in India. We are doing a survey of local industries for the offset of the remaining eight,” said Ciria.
Boeing is in discussions about offsets, but nothing has been agreed to at this point, said Norgart. “Discussions on incorporating the Indian equipment is still ongoing,” he said.
Boeing may not be able to provide an actual P-8I aircraft in time for this year’s trials; Norgart said the company may send a “representative aircraft” instead. He said the P-8A aircraft for the U.S. Navy is at the critical review stage in March, with operational capability beginning in 2013.
by the way the p8i may be flying to india this year for evaluation by the indian navy.
hey guys,great news here,boeing is to shortly display it p8i mma aircraft during field trials in india,however thge aircraft would be a replacement aircraft.
here check out this link and article:
http://www.indiaprwire.com/businessnews/20070207/16560.htm
US aerospace major Boeing will 'very shortly' showcase the capabilities of its maritime patrol aircraft, now under development, to the Indian Navy that is currently evaluating the platform, the company said Wednesday.
'The P8I is a next generation maritime surveillance aircraft and will be able to meet the requirements of the Indian Navy for the next 50 years,' Tim Norgart of Boeing Integrated Defence Systems that is developing the aircraft, told reporters during the ongoing Aero India show here.
'We are in discussions with the Indian Navy and will be finalising the dates for field evaluation trials in the very near future,' added Norgart, a former US Navy aviator who is director of business development for Boeing IDS's Airborne Anti-Submarine Warfare and Intelligence, Surveillance And Reconnaissance Systems division.
The P8I, a customized version for the Indian Navy, is based on the hugely successful Boeing-737 commercial airliner. The navy had in November 2006 expressed an interest in the aircraft as a replacement for its existing fleet of Il-38 aircraft that are nearing the end of their service life.
The navy has also sought from Lockheed Martin details about P3C Orion aircraft that the Pakistan Navy currently operates.
The Indian Navy plans to initially buy eight aircraft and possibly a few more later.
Since the P8I is currently at what is termed the 'critical design stage' after which the US Navy will give its go ahead for serial production, the aircraft's flight characteristics will be demonstrated on a 'representative aircraft' and its mission system equipment on a truck mounted trailer.
'We expect the trials to last from a week to two weeks, after which we will proceed to the next stage of negotiations,' said Norgart, who has logged some 4,500 hours on the P3C Orion.
'The Orion's a wonderful aircraft but its technology is 50 years old. What we are offering is next generation technology for whose development the US Navy has paid for and which the Indian Navy would not have to shoulder,' added the official, who, however, refused to divulge figures.
Contending that the P8I was the 'world's most technologically advanced' aircraft of its type, Norgart said it 'combines superior performance and proven reliability with the world's most advanced mission system, accommodates use of indigenous systems, and has significant industrial participation prospects'.
The participation prospect refers to transfer of technology to Indian industries and their participation in the manufacturing process if Boeing wins the order.
here check out this link and article:
http://www.indiaprwire.com/businessnews/20070207/16560.htm
US aerospace major Boeing will 'very shortly' showcase the capabilities of its maritime patrol aircraft, now under development, to the Indian Navy that is currently evaluating the platform, the company said Wednesday.
'The P8I is a next generation maritime surveillance aircraft and will be able to meet the requirements of the Indian Navy for the next 50 years,' Tim Norgart of Boeing Integrated Defence Systems that is developing the aircraft, told reporters during the ongoing Aero India show here.
'We are in discussions with the Indian Navy and will be finalising the dates for field evaluation trials in the very near future,' added Norgart, a former US Navy aviator who is director of business development for Boeing IDS's Airborne Anti-Submarine Warfare and Intelligence, Surveillance And Reconnaissance Systems division.
The P8I, a customized version for the Indian Navy, is based on the hugely successful Boeing-737 commercial airliner. The navy had in November 2006 expressed an interest in the aircraft as a replacement for its existing fleet of Il-38 aircraft that are nearing the end of their service life.
The navy has also sought from Lockheed Martin details about P3C Orion aircraft that the Pakistan Navy currently operates.
The Indian Navy plans to initially buy eight aircraft and possibly a few more later.
Since the P8I is currently at what is termed the 'critical design stage' after which the US Navy will give its go ahead for serial production, the aircraft's flight characteristics will be demonstrated on a 'representative aircraft' and its mission system equipment on a truck mounted trailer.
'We expect the trials to last from a week to two weeks, after which we will proceed to the next stage of negotiations,' said Norgart, who has logged some 4,500 hours on the P3C Orion.
'The Orion's a wonderful aircraft but its technology is 50 years old. What we are offering is next generation technology for whose development the US Navy has paid for and which the Indian Navy would not have to shoulder,' added the official, who, however, refused to divulge figures.
Contending that the P8I was the 'world's most technologically advanced' aircraft of its type, Norgart said it 'combines superior performance and proven reliability with the world's most advanced mission system, accommodates use of indigenous systems, and has significant industrial participation prospects'.
The participation prospect refers to transfer of technology to Indian industries and their participation in the manufacturing process if Boeing wins the order.
hey guys,great news here ,the indian navy is conducting a comprehensive but absolutely free medical camp for the people living on the lakshadweep islands.
here check out this link and article:
http://www.hindu.com/2007/02/11/stories/2007021120650300.htm
Kochi: The development in the Lakshadweep islands has brought several changes in the infrastructure and lifestyle of the population who reside there. However, health care at the moment in these islands remains at a very basic level. For the most part, the islanders are bereft of specialised medical facilities and have to travel to either the headquarters at Kavaratti or to the mainland for better medical care.
The Indian Navy had in the past reached out to the islanders, conducting medical camps. One such camp was held in 1999. The last medical camps conducted in the Kavaratti and Androth islands in November 2005 were a resounding success, where hundreds of people were attended to and many major ailments were diagnosed and subsequently treated.
INS Sharda, an offshore patrol vessel under the Southern Naval Command at Kochi, sailed for the Lakshadweep islands on the eve of February 1, with a medical team headed by Surgeon Captain Mohan Malse, Commanding Officer INHS Sanjivani, along with an ophthalmologist, physician, paediatrician, gynaecologist, dermatologist, dental surgeon, medical officers, nursing officers, paramedics and support staff embarked, on a three-day medical camp to three islands of the Lakshadweep - Kadmatt, Amini and Kiltan.
Based on a series of meetings with the Medical and Administrative heads in each of the these islands, the team was equipped with a complete pathological laboratory, radiology and dental set-up along with a adequate supply of drugs for each and every situation in packages called `Bricks' (in naval parlance ), separately for each island.
The camp at the Primary Health Centre (PHC) on February 2 on Kadmat Island witnessed participation by over 1,200 patients through the day till late in the evening. At the second camp organised in the Community Health Centre (CHC) on Amini Island on February 3, about 1,300 patients were attended to.
The islanders welcomed the team as they entered the CHC to conduct the second camp, with their traditional dance.
The enthusiasm amongst the inhabitants of this island towards the medical team was highly encouraging.
The third and final camp was held at the PHC, Kiltan Island on February 4 wherein about 808 patients benefited from this camp. Comparatively, eye, paediatric and medical OPD's registered a large number of patients.
The main thrust was to screen the local population and then guide them to a proper treatment regime or refer them for further investigation and treatment where required.
It is planned to study the feasibility of establishing a telemedicine link with the islands to offer specialist consultation to the doctors in the islands. Presently, telephone contact has been established with medical officers at the islands for interacting with the specialist medical officers at INHS Sanjivani for consultation.
here check out this link and article:
http://www.hindu.com/2007/02/11/stories/2007021120650300.htm
Kochi: The development in the Lakshadweep islands has brought several changes in the infrastructure and lifestyle of the population who reside there. However, health care at the moment in these islands remains at a very basic level. For the most part, the islanders are bereft of specialised medical facilities and have to travel to either the headquarters at Kavaratti or to the mainland for better medical care.
The Indian Navy had in the past reached out to the islanders, conducting medical camps. One such camp was held in 1999. The last medical camps conducted in the Kavaratti and Androth islands in November 2005 were a resounding success, where hundreds of people were attended to and many major ailments were diagnosed and subsequently treated.
INS Sharda, an offshore patrol vessel under the Southern Naval Command at Kochi, sailed for the Lakshadweep islands on the eve of February 1, with a medical team headed by Surgeon Captain Mohan Malse, Commanding Officer INHS Sanjivani, along with an ophthalmologist, physician, paediatrician, gynaecologist, dermatologist, dental surgeon, medical officers, nursing officers, paramedics and support staff embarked, on a three-day medical camp to three islands of the Lakshadweep - Kadmatt, Amini and Kiltan.
Based on a series of meetings with the Medical and Administrative heads in each of the these islands, the team was equipped with a complete pathological laboratory, radiology and dental set-up along with a adequate supply of drugs for each and every situation in packages called `Bricks' (in naval parlance ), separately for each island.
The camp at the Primary Health Centre (PHC) on February 2 on Kadmat Island witnessed participation by over 1,200 patients through the day till late in the evening. At the second camp organised in the Community Health Centre (CHC) on Amini Island on February 3, about 1,300 patients were attended to.
The islanders welcomed the team as they entered the CHC to conduct the second camp, with their traditional dance.
The enthusiasm amongst the inhabitants of this island towards the medical team was highly encouraging.
The third and final camp was held at the PHC, Kiltan Island on February 4 wherein about 808 patients benefited from this camp. Comparatively, eye, paediatric and medical OPD's registered a large number of patients.
The main thrust was to screen the local population and then guide them to a proper treatment regime or refer them for further investigation and treatment where required.
It is planned to study the feasibility of establishing a telemedicine link with the islands to offer specialist consultation to the doctors in the islands. Presently, telephone contact has been established with medical officers at the islands for interacting with the specialist medical officers at INHS Sanjivani for consultation.
hey guys,great news here,indian navy is to send a request for proposal to set up a second submarine line,most probably the hdw type 214 and amur would be the participants,air independent propulsion would be an important criteria for the winner.
here check out this link and article:
http://ia.rediff.com/news/2007/feb/16sub.htm
With a view to bolster its undersea fighting capabilities, the Indian Navy is poised to open international bids for acquisition and construction of second range of submarines.
"The request for proposals to acquire and build six new range of submarines would be floated shortly," a senior naval official told PTI.
In contention would be the Russians with their 4th generation Amur class submarines armed with vertically launched KLUB-S Missiles and new generation of German HDW submarines with their Air Independent propulsion systems.
The navy has already firmed up a deal with the French warship builders DCN International for construction of six scorpene submarines at Mazagoan docks in Mumbai.
The first of these hunter-killer submarines are expected to roll out by 2011. Naval officials have ruled out equipping any of the six Scorpene submarines with AIP, but Naval Chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta has said this capability would be a criteria for the new planned acquisition of six more submarines.
However, the navy remains tightlipped about progress of a proposal to acquire two Russian Akula (Bars) class type 971 Nuclear powered submarines, as part of India's nuclear deterrent based on sea, land and air platforms.
"We definitely would want to have nuclear submarines because of their long undersea endurance, the decision has to be political," naval officials said.
Naval and DRDO scientists have been working on an indigenous nuclear submarines for years, but are cautious to go public on the project labelled Advance Technology Vehicle.
According to sources, India may go in for first sea trials of the submarines by 2009.
Indian and Russian dockyards have been in negotiation for over three years on the acquisition of the Amur class submarines, which are described as successors to the Indian Navy's Kilo class submarines.
Amur's displacement is smaller than Kilo, but its capabilities are stated to be far superior. The Russians have offered to incorporate Rubin-Designed fuell cell AIP in their offer of technology transfer to India. Amur has a displacement of 2000 ton and can attain maximum speed of 21 knots when submerged and 10 knots when surfaced, with a crew of 30 to 34 personnel and an endurance of 45 days.
The Russians had designed the new AIP system to be retrofitted to the Indian Navy Sindhughosh class submarines, some of which are currently being upgraded at St Petersburg. However, the navy opted to go in for vertically launched Klub-S missiles instead. The Amur class submarines also sport anti-ship missiles such as SS-N-15 or the SS-N-16 Misslies and a variety of mines and torpedoes.
The Russians had designed the new generation Amur class submarines for joint induction into the Indian and Russian navies and the subs are expected to cost significantly less than the Kilo class.
However, the Americans could be late entrants for Indian submarine deal and by the time the RFP's are issued in late march or early April, they could also be in the hunt for the Indian deal.
On other acquisition prospects, Naval officials said evaluation was currently underway for inducting eight Maritime Reconnaissance Aircraft. "Bids from Boeing and Airbus for the long range spy planes and from Lockheed-Martin offering the P3C Orions and Russian IL-38D for the short range requirment are under study," an official said.
Navy is also planning to buy 16 helicopters with the option of another eight to replace its ageing Seaking Mk 42s and Seaking Mk42s fleet, which are fast approaching the end of their service life. They said Navy was also acquiring Naval versions of the Hawk jet trainers.
here check out this link and article:
http://ia.rediff.com/news/2007/feb/16sub.htm
With a view to bolster its undersea fighting capabilities, the Indian Navy is poised to open international bids for acquisition and construction of second range of submarines.
"The request for proposals to acquire and build six new range of submarines would be floated shortly," a senior naval official told PTI.
In contention would be the Russians with their 4th generation Amur class submarines armed with vertically launched KLUB-S Missiles and new generation of German HDW submarines with their Air Independent propulsion systems.
The navy has already firmed up a deal with the French warship builders DCN International for construction of six scorpene submarines at Mazagoan docks in Mumbai.
The first of these hunter-killer submarines are expected to roll out by 2011. Naval officials have ruled out equipping any of the six Scorpene submarines with AIP, but Naval Chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta has said this capability would be a criteria for the new planned acquisition of six more submarines.
However, the navy remains tightlipped about progress of a proposal to acquire two Russian Akula (Bars) class type 971 Nuclear powered submarines, as part of India's nuclear deterrent based on sea, land and air platforms.
"We definitely would want to have nuclear submarines because of their long undersea endurance, the decision has to be political," naval officials said.
Naval and DRDO scientists have been working on an indigenous nuclear submarines for years, but are cautious to go public on the project labelled Advance Technology Vehicle.
According to sources, India may go in for first sea trials of the submarines by 2009.
Indian and Russian dockyards have been in negotiation for over three years on the acquisition of the Amur class submarines, which are described as successors to the Indian Navy's Kilo class submarines.
Amur's displacement is smaller than Kilo, but its capabilities are stated to be far superior. The Russians have offered to incorporate Rubin-Designed fuell cell AIP in their offer of technology transfer to India. Amur has a displacement of 2000 ton and can attain maximum speed of 21 knots when submerged and 10 knots when surfaced, with a crew of 30 to 34 personnel and an endurance of 45 days.
The Russians had designed the new AIP system to be retrofitted to the Indian Navy Sindhughosh class submarines, some of which are currently being upgraded at St Petersburg. However, the navy opted to go in for vertically launched Klub-S missiles instead. The Amur class submarines also sport anti-ship missiles such as SS-N-15 or the SS-N-16 Misslies and a variety of mines and torpedoes.
The Russians had designed the new generation Amur class submarines for joint induction into the Indian and Russian navies and the subs are expected to cost significantly less than the Kilo class.
However, the Americans could be late entrants for Indian submarine deal and by the time the RFP's are issued in late march or early April, they could also be in the hunt for the Indian deal.
On other acquisition prospects, Naval officials said evaluation was currently underway for inducting eight Maritime Reconnaissance Aircraft. "Bids from Boeing and Airbus for the long range spy planes and from Lockheed-Martin offering the P3C Orions and Russian IL-38D for the short range requirment are under study," an official said.
Navy is also planning to buy 16 helicopters with the option of another eight to replace its ageing Seaking Mk 42s and Seaking Mk42s fleet, which are fast approaching the end of their service life. They said Navy was also acquiring Naval versions of the Hawk jet trainers.
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