I will continue to see what is out there, theres gotta be a hardcore engine guy out there somewhere that would have one as a screen saver.Yes, I have this...off the manufacturer's site
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Here is some of the items that the T-90S should be getting in Indian service.
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hey guys ,here is an interesting new concept for bullet proof jackets made out of bamboo for the indian soldiers.
here check out this link and article:
http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmo...jackets+for+jawans&id=98687&category=National
For a jawan posted in areas like Jammu and Kashmir or the northeast a bullet proof jacket is a lifesaver.
Despite this not too many are willing to wear it since these jackets are far too heavy.
The conventional jacket is made of steel and fibre-glass not only weighs over 10 kgs but also restricts mobility especially during sudden encounters.
Now, the National Bamboo Mission under the Science and Tech ministry is trying out bullet proof jackets made of bamboo.
These jackets not only weigh just five kilos but are also much cheaper.
Where a conventional bullet proof jacket costs at least Rs 1.5 lakh a bamboo one will cost not more than Rs 50,000.
With preliminary trials showing encouraging results these jackets will now be tested against AK 47s and Insas. Scientists working on the project are confident.
More tensile
They say bamboo is more tensile so it can absorb the impact of a bullet much better.
"We have fixed a date of April to test the jackets at a MHow and TBRL, Chandigarh," said Col (retd) A Malhotra, Technology Advisor, NBM.
It's not just bullet proof jackets, the National Bamboo Mission has also developed specially-designed igloos for the troops in high altitude frontiers like Siachen.
Ten of these fire-resistant igloos have already been sent to Siachen, Tawang and the Nathu-La for trials.
"We are only trying to generate more uses," said Vinay Oberoi, Director National Bamboo Mission.
India is the second largest producer of bamboo in the world producing 135 million metric tonnes of bamboo every year.
But its use has been restricted mainly to manufacturing paper and artefacts. But now clearly new ideas are being tried out.
here check out this link and article:
http://www.ndtv.com/morenews/showmo...jackets+for+jawans&id=98687&category=National
For a jawan posted in areas like Jammu and Kashmir or the northeast a bullet proof jacket is a lifesaver.
Despite this not too many are willing to wear it since these jackets are far too heavy.
The conventional jacket is made of steel and fibre-glass not only weighs over 10 kgs but also restricts mobility especially during sudden encounters.
Now, the National Bamboo Mission under the Science and Tech ministry is trying out bullet proof jackets made of bamboo.
These jackets not only weigh just five kilos but are also much cheaper.
Where a conventional bullet proof jacket costs at least Rs 1.5 lakh a bamboo one will cost not more than Rs 50,000.
With preliminary trials showing encouraging results these jackets will now be tested against AK 47s and Insas. Scientists working on the project are confident.
More tensile
They say bamboo is more tensile so it can absorb the impact of a bullet much better.
"We have fixed a date of April to test the jackets at a MHow and TBRL, Chandigarh," said Col (retd) A Malhotra, Technology Advisor, NBM.
It's not just bullet proof jackets, the National Bamboo Mission has also developed specially-designed igloos for the troops in high altitude frontiers like Siachen.
Ten of these fire-resistant igloos have already been sent to Siachen, Tawang and the Nathu-La for trials.
"We are only trying to generate more uses," said Vinay Oberoi, Director National Bamboo Mission.
India is the second largest producer of bamboo in the world producing 135 million metric tonnes of bamboo every year.
But its use has been restricted mainly to manufacturing paper and artefacts. But now clearly new ideas are being tried out.
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hey guys,iam sure this fireffighting gas will find a great use in the indian army ,particularly in its battle tanks.
here check out this link and article:
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2006/12/26/stories/2006122602340300.htm
Hepta Fluropropane would soon replace Halon gas
Mumbai , Dec. 25
The Centre for Fire, Explosive, and Environment Safety, a defence laboratory of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), has developed a new gas called Hepta Fluropropane for firefighting systems. This gas would soon replace Halon gas, currently used in fire fighting systems for critical infrastructure, said Dr A.K. Kapoor, Director of the Defence Laboratory. The market size for this Halon substitute is about Rs 150 crore.
The DRDO has passed on the technology for this Halon alternative to Mechvac Fabricators (I) Pvt Ltd, a Mumbai-based engineering firm. Mr R.K. Chodankar, Chairman of Mechvac Fabricators, said that other than India, the technology for making Hepta Fluropropane was only available with the US. Mechvac has already spent Rs 10 crore in setting up a manufacturing facility for the gas and the production will start next year.
The company has already received advance orders for 500 tonnes of the gas and is considering setting up three more facilities to meet the demand, said Mr Chodankar.
Since Montreal Protocol of 1989, attempts are being made to replace Halon gas with other substitutes as scientific evidence showed that Halon causes depletion of the ozone layer. Mr Chodankar said that the domestic requirement for the gas would be 750 tonnes annually and Mechvac will only be able to provide about 300 tonnes during the first year of operation.
here check out this link and article:
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2006/12/26/stories/2006122602340300.htm
Hepta Fluropropane would soon replace Halon gas
Mumbai , Dec. 25
The Centre for Fire, Explosive, and Environment Safety, a defence laboratory of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO), has developed a new gas called Hepta Fluropropane for firefighting systems. This gas would soon replace Halon gas, currently used in fire fighting systems for critical infrastructure, said Dr A.K. Kapoor, Director of the Defence Laboratory. The market size for this Halon substitute is about Rs 150 crore.
The DRDO has passed on the technology for this Halon alternative to Mechvac Fabricators (I) Pvt Ltd, a Mumbai-based engineering firm. Mr R.K. Chodankar, Chairman of Mechvac Fabricators, said that other than India, the technology for making Hepta Fluropropane was only available with the US. Mechvac has already spent Rs 10 crore in setting up a manufacturing facility for the gas and the production will start next year.
The company has already received advance orders for 500 tonnes of the gas and is considering setting up three more facilities to meet the demand, said Mr Chodankar.
Since Montreal Protocol of 1989, attempts are being made to replace Halon gas with other substitutes as scientific evidence showed that Halon causes depletion of the ozone layer. Mr Chodankar said that the domestic requirement for the gas would be 750 tonnes annually and Mechvac will only be able to provide about 300 tonnes during the first year of operation.
On the last modernised variant of BMP-3M we put 660 hp UTD-32 diesel:
Nice picture, what are the rough amount figures that Russia has for BMP3`s in their inventory now. Also do you have some good information on the new BMP that India is interested in purchasing from Russia.
1- There were about 100 BMP-3 in 2002-2003 on the service of RuA (Russian source - http://www.vpk-news.ru/oldversion/article.asp?pr_sign=archive.2003.13.04_01 ). Now I think, it's gonna be close to 200 units. Most of them - are in Sibiria and FarEast.
2 - India in brief wants BMP-3 turret (Bahcha) on the modernised BMP-2 chassis with more powerful engine and refreshed bmp-ionics, additional armor for rpg-defence. (Donno whether they want to keep the buyoancy on) I think, this may to be a good choice: if you have allready massive stock of BMP-2, the aquisition of totally new chassis with non-standard exit for a crew would seem to be a bit bizzarre. However, BMP-2 will never sail so good as a BMP-3 because of its forward engine position with mass-center moving forwards, but the buyoancy it's not the thing between those wanted by the Indians at first line IMHO.
Thanks Extern for the information, has India signed into any type of agreement at this point for this.
Some good information, I will be shocked if India goes to Ukraine for T-72 upgrades, I would think that Russia may get rubbed the wrong way with that one. How has the BMP II handled itself in a urbanized setting, also what type of weapons have they come up against.
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well it seems to be pretty heavily armed for an infantry fighting vehicle ,where will they keep the 100mm rounds?
india is also developing its indigenous abhay infantry combat vehicle (the design has western influence),modifying the vaijayantas to serve as infantry combat vehicles(like the puma),though this project is still in the concept stage.
they are also developing a wheeled troop carrier(with capacity to carry upto 15 troops) for the indian paramillitary forces.
You can be calm
, it'll never happen bcz the IPR agreement with Russia obligating involvement of the Russian OEM as a main player in any future upgrading of the Russian equipment.kk_venkatraman
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"The Army’s 900 BMP-IIs are being upgraded in a $700 million program slated to run through 2012, with new engines, thermal sights, advanced land navigation systems and global positioning units, and nuclear-biological-chemical protection. A tracked, light amphibious vehicle, the BMP-II has been used in urban and rural counterinsurgency operations in the northern state of Jammu and Kashmir, the Army official said. "
As far as I know, no BMPs have been used in Counter Insurgency Operations in Jammu & Kashmir ever since insurgency begun. The only thing closest to armoured vehicles are South African Cassipers and locally modified Light Commercial Vehicles called "bunker" vehicles. Infact given a choice, most soldiers prefer to walk rather than use a vehicle. That way you can avoid an IED on the roads which are mostly not metalled.
There was one case where BBC broadcast a pgme saying that Indian Army was using tanks and armoured vehs to suppress the rebellion. However when pointed out that the civilians shown in the video were of Eastern European / Central Asian origin, they retracted it. Dont remember when it was, but most likely in the mid-90s.
Apart from political reasons, it is far cheaper to use one company of infantry than one BMP, atleast in India.
Another reason, is that other than some areas of valley, the area is not conducive for use of BMPs
As far as I know, no BMPs have been used in Counter Insurgency Operations in Jammu & Kashmir ever since insurgency begun. The only thing closest to armoured vehicles are South African Cassipers and locally modified Light Commercial Vehicles called "bunker" vehicles. Infact given a choice, most soldiers prefer to walk rather than use a vehicle. That way you can avoid an IED on the roads which are mostly not metalled.
There was one case where BBC broadcast a pgme saying that Indian Army was using tanks and armoured vehs to suppress the rebellion. However when pointed out that the civilians shown in the video were of Eastern European / Central Asian origin, they retracted it. Dont remember when it was, but most likely in the mid-90s.
Apart from political reasons, it is far cheaper to use one company of infantry than one BMP, atleast in India.
Another reason, is that other than some areas of valley, the area is not conducive for use of BMPs
I think the main cause for calm on the Indian flatlend border is the huge indian advance in armor including BMP's that gives no chance for any thinkable attempts of Pakistan to check the border also in Thar and Panjab. However u say true, the use of armor on hilly places is hardly possible indeed...
Considering the massive army india has it requires atleast around 2500-3500 BMP like vechicles which can help in swift moment of troops and or urban fighting. Like we see how russia used its BMP;s in chechnya. BMP's are very useful in crushing small uprisings and skirmishes
The development of Pantzir is allready finished and the first batch of the systems was delivered to UAE in december 2006: http://pvo.guns.ru/images/banner/pdf_logo.gif
FutureTank
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The correct link is http://pvo.guns.ru/book/ato/index.htm
Bottom of the page.
The article says that systems will commence delivery in 2006. Indeed they have begun with the training systems for TA nad FC which have been available since 2004
FutureTank
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Thank you
Mind if I ask where you got this from?
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hey guys,great news ,india's defence research and development organisation has managed to develop a technology to improve the mileage of the electric cars from the currentb 80kms/hr to 120 kms/hr and has also developed avalanche proof structure,i believe that these two would have tremendous prospects for the indian army.
here check out this link and article:
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=8011
Electric cars getting better
Special Correspondent
New technology gives it more mileage
Cars could run up to 120 km after every charge
DRDO develops anti-avalanche structure
CHIDAMBARAM: Scientists at the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) have developed a technology that promises to enhance the range of electric cars by about 50 per cent.
Addressing a symposium at the 94th session of the Indian Science Congress here, M. Natarajan, Scientific Adviser to the Defence Minister and DRDO chief, said trials showed that with the new technology, electric cars could run up to 120 km after every charge against the current range of 80 km achieved by Reva.
The new technology combines battery with fuel cells. While the battery was the regular one used in Reva cars, the fuel cell was based on phosphoric acid.
A car using the new technology was being tested at the Naval Material Research Laboratory at Ambarnath, 60 km from Mumbai, and it was performing satisfactorily.
The DRDO had also designed an innovative structure to protect the approach road to the new underground tunnel at Rohtang Pass from avalanches.
The 8.8-km tunnel, connecting Manali in Himachal Pradesh to Leh, was of strategic importance for the Army. The anti-avalanche structure would help divert the huge masses of snow hurtling down the mountain slopes away from the approach road.
The design was being tested at the entry point of the tunnel from the Manali side and the results were quite encouraging. It would be soon transferred to the Border Road Organisation for replication.
About 12 avalanche-prone segments had been identified in the area.
Dr. Natarajan said the DRDO was also working on a tie-up with research groups in universities across the country for conducting basic research.
Already, memoranda of understanding had been signed with a group of researchers at the Central University in Hyderabad and another at Bharatiyar University of Life Sciences at Coimbatore. "We are looking for forging tie-up with research groups in universities prepared to pursue fundamental research on various aspects of interest to the defence forces. This is because DRDO mainly focused on developing technologies and was not able to concentrate much on basic research. Funding is not a problem. We are ready to provide as much funds as necessary. The only criterion is that the group should be good."
here check out this link and article:
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=8011
Electric cars getting better
Special Correspondent
New technology gives it more mileage
Cars could run up to 120 km after every charge
DRDO develops anti-avalanche structure
CHIDAMBARAM: Scientists at the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) have developed a technology that promises to enhance the range of electric cars by about 50 per cent.
Addressing a symposium at the 94th session of the Indian Science Congress here, M. Natarajan, Scientific Adviser to the Defence Minister and DRDO chief, said trials showed that with the new technology, electric cars could run up to 120 km after every charge against the current range of 80 km achieved by Reva.
The new technology combines battery with fuel cells. While the battery was the regular one used in Reva cars, the fuel cell was based on phosphoric acid.
A car using the new technology was being tested at the Naval Material Research Laboratory at Ambarnath, 60 km from Mumbai, and it was performing satisfactorily.
The DRDO had also designed an innovative structure to protect the approach road to the new underground tunnel at Rohtang Pass from avalanches.
The 8.8-km tunnel, connecting Manali in Himachal Pradesh to Leh, was of strategic importance for the Army. The anti-avalanche structure would help divert the huge masses of snow hurtling down the mountain slopes away from the approach road.
The design was being tested at the entry point of the tunnel from the Manali side and the results were quite encouraging. It would be soon transferred to the Border Road Organisation for replication.
About 12 avalanche-prone segments had been identified in the area.
Dr. Natarajan said the DRDO was also working on a tie-up with research groups in universities across the country for conducting basic research.
Already, memoranda of understanding had been signed with a group of researchers at the Central University in Hyderabad and another at Bharatiyar University of Life Sciences at Coimbatore. "We are looking for forging tie-up with research groups in universities prepared to pursue fundamental research on various aspects of interest to the defence forces. This is because DRDO mainly focused on developing technologies and was not able to concentrate much on basic research. Funding is not a problem. We are ready to provide as much funds as necessary. The only criterion is that the group should be good."
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hey guys,interesting news ,indian army have driven a t55 tank at an altitude of 17000 feet,i wonder wether if this achieve offeres any advantage to the indian army in future combat operations.
here check out this link and article:
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2007/20070106/main9.htm
Chandigarh, January 5
Somewhere in the snow-covered Himalayas during the bleak winters last year, the Army drove a T-55 tank up to the dizzying height of over 17,000 feet, setting a record of sorts. Never in the history of armoured warfare has a tank been taken up to this altitude before.
The operation was undertaken to evaluate the operational and logistical feasibility to transport and operate tanks at altitudes and to areas which have so far remained unexposed to armoured operations, should such a need arise. The task was carried out by 63 Cavalry Regiment.
“This is a stellar example of the grit and determination of the troops and their ability to move men and equipment against all odds and reach where required,” Lt Gen S.S. Mehta (retd) a former Colonel of 63 Cavalry Regiment, said. “Nowhere in the world has a tank been taken up to this altitude before,” he added.
Designed and developed for combat in plains and deserts, tanks have not been used for operations in mountains barring a few examples. The Indian Army Corps had redefined the parameters for armoured operations in the 1947-48 war, when Col (later Lt Gen) Rajinder Singh Sparrow of 7 Light Cavalry took tanks through the 12,000-foot-high Zoji La pass in Kashmir and threw back Pakistani forces. It was through this action that Dras was recaptured in 1947.
The 63 Cavalry had detailed a lieutenant colonel to head the operations. The entire exercise was an extremely complex task involving detailed planning and constant review of minor details. A lot of time was spent in selecting the route.
“The operation involved a lot of innovations and spur of the moment decisions, most of which were actually contrary to established technical norms,” an officer revealed. “At places there was three feet of snow and the temperatures were as low as minis 13 degree Celsius,” he added.
At that altitude, the oxygen content is just 4 per cent as compared to 17 per cent at lower altitudes, which greatly affects engine combustion,” the officer said. “We had to work out the fuel consumption and other technical aspects accordingly,” he added.
During the drive which took several days, special efforts were required to ensure that the batteries did not go dead because of the extreme cold. Precautions were also taken against the fuel and lubricants freezing at night. There were also instances where it was learnt that a task which required special tools could be accomplished by normal tools with a bit of imagination and expertise. The tank started up from an altitude of about 14,000 feet and reached up to 17,000 through a narrow snow covered track, which at places was just enough to accommodate the tank’s width. The driver was later awarded Chief of the Army Staff’s Commendation.
here check out this link and article:
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2007/20070106/main9.htm
Chandigarh, January 5
Somewhere in the snow-covered Himalayas during the bleak winters last year, the Army drove a T-55 tank up to the dizzying height of over 17,000 feet, setting a record of sorts. Never in the history of armoured warfare has a tank been taken up to this altitude before.
The operation was undertaken to evaluate the operational and logistical feasibility to transport and operate tanks at altitudes and to areas which have so far remained unexposed to armoured operations, should such a need arise. The task was carried out by 63 Cavalry Regiment.
“This is a stellar example of the grit and determination of the troops and their ability to move men and equipment against all odds and reach where required,” Lt Gen S.S. Mehta (retd) a former Colonel of 63 Cavalry Regiment, said. “Nowhere in the world has a tank been taken up to this altitude before,” he added.
Designed and developed for combat in plains and deserts, tanks have not been used for operations in mountains barring a few examples. The Indian Army Corps had redefined the parameters for armoured operations in the 1947-48 war, when Col (later Lt Gen) Rajinder Singh Sparrow of 7 Light Cavalry took tanks through the 12,000-foot-high Zoji La pass in Kashmir and threw back Pakistani forces. It was through this action that Dras was recaptured in 1947.
The 63 Cavalry had detailed a lieutenant colonel to head the operations. The entire exercise was an extremely complex task involving detailed planning and constant review of minor details. A lot of time was spent in selecting the route.
“The operation involved a lot of innovations and spur of the moment decisions, most of which were actually contrary to established technical norms,” an officer revealed. “At places there was three feet of snow and the temperatures were as low as minis 13 degree Celsius,” he added.
At that altitude, the oxygen content is just 4 per cent as compared to 17 per cent at lower altitudes, which greatly affects engine combustion,” the officer said. “We had to work out the fuel consumption and other technical aspects accordingly,” he added.
During the drive which took several days, special efforts were required to ensure that the batteries did not go dead because of the extreme cold. Precautions were also taken against the fuel and lubricants freezing at night. There were also instances where it was learnt that a task which required special tools could be accomplished by normal tools with a bit of imagination and expertise. The tank started up from an altitude of about 14,000 feet and reached up to 17,000 through a narrow snow covered track, which at places was just enough to accommodate the tank’s width. The driver was later awarded Chief of the Army Staff’s Commendation.