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[John Fedup]

Damage and loss of income being covered (as you say, hopefully) by insurance is a cost of doing business. A figure of one billion, insurance companies are not going consider that and I doubt Egypt’s Suez accountants can come up with believable documentation supporting this amount. Now possibly the delivery delays caused by 6-10 days could result in legal action by the 18,000 container recipients (maybe more if some containers shared) but most probably don’t want the aggregation and hassle of filing a claim unless they have a serious financial obligation.

 

[swerve]

Spain's Navantia Proposing Two New Frigate Designs to the Hellenic Navy - Naval News

Spanish shipbuilder Navantia is proposing two new and modern designs for the Hellenic Navy frigate requirement: The F110 Frigates, currently being designed for the Spanish Navy are part of a wider package offer by the shipbuilder with full support of the Spanish government.

www.navalnews.com

"Unlike some competitors, the interim (so called “stop gap”) solution proposed by Navantia does not consists in second-hand vessels but new ones. The Spanish shipbuilder’s proposal is to provide two brand new 3.000 t light frigates."
Its just ridiculous that they call 3000 t frigates "light frigates".

Standards change. There are 6-8000 ton frigates in service.

 

[kato]

"Unlike some competitors, the interim (so called “stop gap”) solution proposed by Navantia does not consists in second-hand vessels but new ones. The Spanish shipbuilder’s proposal is to provide two brand new 3.000 t light frigates."
Its just ridiculous that they call 3000 t frigates "light frigates".

ALFA 3000 is basically Navantia's draft concept for the European Patrol Corvette (or, well, their pre-existing concept that they're going into EPC with). They're primarily meant for high sea patrol roles, not for high-intensity symmetric combat. This is mostly about Navantia wanting a launch customer of course.

For the context of "light frigates", the M-Class as operated by the Netherlands, Belgium and Poland is also often called a "light frigate" at around 3,300 tons, as is the French Lafayette class at 3200 tons standard load (was even called FL-3000 - "fregate legere, 3000 tons" as a project when they were built in the 90s). Nothing new therefore.

 

[Ananda]

Navantia to Launch First S80 Submarine for Spanish Navy on April 22nd - Naval News

His Majesty King Felipe VI, accompanied by Her Majesty the Queen, Her Royal Highness the Princess of Asturias and Her Royal Highness Infanta Sofia will preside over the launching ceremony of S-81, the first submarine of S80 class, in Navantia shipyard in Cartagena (Murcia, Spain). The ceremony...

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First Spain S-80 class submarine near ready for launch. This program has been delayed due to technical difficulty that Spain Industries especially Navantia face on the first totally indigenous design.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

Navantia to Launch First S80 Submarine for Spanish Navy on April 22nd - Naval News

His Majesty King Felipe VI, accompanied by Her Majesty the Queen, Her Royal Highness the Princess of Asturias and Her Royal Highness Infanta Sofia will preside over the launching ceremony of S-81, the first submarine of S80 class, in Navantia shipyard in Cartagena (Murcia, Spain). The ceremony...

www.navalnews.com

First Spain S-80 class submarine near ready for launch. This program has been delayed due to technical difficulty that Spain Industries especially Navantia face on the first totally indigenous design.

This indeed took so much time from start of the program to the launch of the first boat.
There was some severe weight imbalance design flaw, but if im not wrong there was also something between DCNS and Bazán/Navantia, because they collaborated with the development of the Scorpène, but Spain later cancelled the order and decided to take the S-80, besides that some years ago there was in Spain a financial crisis.
But please correct me if im wrong.

Anyway, its a beauty....

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1383393705260830727

 

[John Fedup]

Looks to be a reasonable choice for Canada but will likely be out of production by the time (if ever) Canada decides to renew our sub fleet. Attack class should be around longer. GD Electric Boat helped out with the design correction for the S-80’s buoyancy issue.

 

[Ananda]

Looking on Spanish initial problem with S-80, I also have to give South Korean submarine program better acknowledgement. South Korea and Spain both have make good progress from licensing other people design, and further move on their own design now.

Both KSS-3 and S-80 eventough in my opinion shown different based design (KSS-3 shown more German influence and S-80 shown French ones), also shown ROK and Spain already incorporate their own philosophy of design. Kudos on that.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

The Nigerian Navy received the new hydrographic research vessel from the French OCEA on 15 April 2021.

The OCEA OSV 190 SC-WB is a hydrographic and oceanographic research vessel from OCEA’s line of auxiliary vessels. Two of these vessels were already sold a couple of years ago to the Indonesian Navy (TNI-AL)

LANA A499 will not only enhance the safety of Nigeria’s maritime environment as a hydrographic vessel, but the ship will serve many roles to improve maritime security in the Gulf of Guinea.

Nigerian Navy Takes Delivery of Hydrographic Research Vessel from OCEA - Naval News

French Shipyard OCEA delivered on 15 April 2021 a new hydrographic research vessel to the Nigerian Navy. NNS Lana is based on the OCEA OSV 190 SC-WB design.

www.navalnews.com

Some more info about this family of maritime vessels:

French shipbuilder OCEA launches new OCEA OSV 190 SC-WB hydrographic r

According to a press release published on September 24, 2020, French shipbuilder OCEA has officially launched the new OCEA OSV 190 SC-WB hydrographic resea

navyrecognition.com

OSV 190 | Ocea SSM

OCEA OSV 190 is a 60 m non-magnetic multi-mission offshore support vessel, comfortable, highly flexible, affordable & cost effective with high sea-keeping performances and minimum environment impact.

www.ocea-ssm.com

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

Turkey Plans to Deploy Indigenous Aircraft 'Hürjet' on LHD Anadolu - Naval News

After Turkey was taken out of the F-35 aircraft program because of CAATSA sanctions imposed by the United States, it has been trying to develop new solutions to deploy fixed-winged air assets on Landing Helicopter Dock (LHD) Anadolu.

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Comparing to an CATOBAR-aircraft carrier, Anadolu’s flight deck is shorter because it was designed for STOVL (short take-off and vertical landing) aircraft. For this reason, the TAI Hürjet may need a catapult system and arresting gear system to be able to operate from the LHD. But if during landing the tailhook failed to catch the arresting cable, the flightdeck will be too short to reach sufficient speed.

So actually they need a STOVL-aircraft like the F-35B to operate from an LHD, or they have to completely redesign the LHD into a CATOBAR-carrier. Its sounds very complicated and expensive to solve this problem, besides that the Hürjet is a advanced jet trainer/light fighter in the same class as the KAI T-50, not a multirole fighter like the Rafale or F-35 which are designed from the beginning to be able to be navalized.

This plan is maybe even impossible to realize with an acceptable budget and ordering a foreign aircraft carrier + naval jetfighter will be probably much more cost effective than to struggle with two incompatible designs.

Unless they want to use the LHD the same way like the Royal Thai Navy uses the Chakri Naruebet : just as a helicopter carrier.

 

[Redlands18]

Turkey Plans to Deploy Indigenous Aircraft 'Hürjet' on LHD Anadolu - Naval News

After Turkey was taken out of the F-35 aircraft program because of CAATSA sanctions imposed by the United States, it has been trying to develop new solutions to deploy fixed-winged air assets on Landing Helicopter Dock (LHD) Anadolu.

www.navalnews.com

Comparing to an CATOBAR-aircraft carrier, Anadolu’s flight deck is shorter because it was designed for STOVL (short take-off and vertical landing) aircraft. For this reason, the TAI Hürjet may need a catapult system and arresting gear system to be able to operate from the LHD. But if during landing the tailhook failed to catch the arresting cable, the flightdeck will be too short to reach sufficient speed.

So actually they need a STOVL-aircraft like the F-35B to operate from an LHD, or they have to completely redesign the LHD into a CATOBAR-carrier. Its sounds very complicated and expensive to solve this problem, besides that the Hürjet is a advanced jet trainer/light fighter in the same class as the KAI T-50, not a multirole fighter like the Rafale or F-35 which are designed from the beginning to be able to be navalized.

This plan is maybe even impossible to realize with an acceptable budget and ordering a foreign aircraft carrier + naval jetfighter will be probably much more cost effective than to struggle with two incompatible designs.

Unless they want to use the LHD the same way like the Royal Thai Navy uses the Chakri Naruebet : just as a helicopter carrier.

It would need a massive rebuild to be turned into a Catobar Carrier. It has the wrong type of propulsion system for Steam Catapults so would need to either invent some sort of system for creating steam(never been done) or develop a EMALS. Would also need to fit a Angled Flight Deck. Flight Deck length is not a problem as they use the Angled deck for landing and the Aircraft is actually at take off speed when they catch the wires, missing the wires completely is not an uncommon occurrence and it basically turns into a touch and go.

 

[Ananda]

Unless they want to use the LHD the same way like the Royal Thai Navy uses the Chakri Naruebet : just as a helicopter carrier.

If I see Turkish forums and media, some of them also mocking the idea on using Juan Carlos based Anadolu's as conventional carrier even only for LCA types. It practically has to be rebuild from ground up, then it's better to build new ones.

The first idea on using the LHD for drones carrier is still make sense, but to turn it as CATOBAR or STOBAR carrier ? Well it's clearly more politically motivate then realistic idea.

 

[StingrayOZ]

That ship with that aircraft are just never going to happen. It would be far more realistic (although still fanciful) to purchase and reactivate Foche or build another ship based off lessons pulling apart foche.

Unless they want to use the LHD the same way like the Royal Thai Navy uses the Chakri Naruebet : just as a helicopter carrier.

T129 could certainly operate from this ship, and both Spain (mostly) and Australia (always) operate this as a traditional amphibious ship, with no fixed with aviation at all. Able to carry stinger or sidewinders, and unguided rockets, it would seem to be quite decent.

 

[KiwiRob]

That ship with that aircraft are just never going to happen. It would be far more realistic (although still fanciful) to purchase and reactivate Foche or build another ship based off lessons pulling apart foche.



T129 could certainly operate from this ship, and both Spain (mostly) and Australia (always) operate this as a traditional amphibious ship, with no fixed with aviation at all. Able to carry stinger or sidewinders, and unguided rockets, it would seem to be quite decent.

Of just ask the Chinese to build them something.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

The contract entails construction of two corvettes in Turkey and two at Karachi Shipyard & Engineering Works (KS&EW). The contract has also provisions for transfer of design rights and construction know-how from Turkey to Pakistan.

In addition to these corvettes from Turkey, Pakistan also ordered vessels from other countries. The Pakistan Navy will commission soon new Type 54A/P frigates from China and from the Netherlands they recently received two Yarmuk-class corvettes, these two 2300 ton corvettes are based on the Offshore Patrol Vessel (OPV) 1900 design from Damen Shipyards.

Turkey Laid Keel Of Pakistan Navy’s Third Jinnah-class MILGEM Corvette - Naval News

The keel laying ceremony for Pakistan Navy's third Jinnah-class (MILGEM type) corvette for held on May 1st at Istanbul Naval Shipyard (INSY), Turkey.

www.navalnews.com

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

Interesting article.

Suspected Chinese state hackers target Russian submarine designer

Hackers suspected to work for the Chinese government have used a new malware called PortDoor to infiltrate the systems of an engineering company that designs submarines for the Russian Navy.

www.bleepingcomputer.com

I expect the chinese will/have also try to steal from other submarine design companies from many countries.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

The Guardian Class patrol boats are delivered without weaponsystems, but there is place for a 30 mm naval gun as a primary weapon, also port and starboard mounts for 12.7 mm general-purpose machine guns are already placed.

Until now the Guardian Class boats are only under construction for the West-Pacific islands, but it is undoubtly suitable for other small navies in warm countries.

Australia hands over second Guardian-class patrol boat to Solomon Islands

Australia has handed over the second and final Guardian-class patrol boat built for the government of the Solomon Islands.

www.janes.com

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

Austal Delivers Two Cape-class Patrol Boats to Trinidad and Tobago Coast Guard - Naval News

Austal Limited is pleased to announce that Austal Australia has delivered two Cape-class Patrol Boats to the Trinidad and Tobago Coast Guard (TTCG).

www.navalnews.com

These two patrol boats are the first Cape-class vessels manufactured by Austal to be exported. It is unclear if these boats are equipped with machineguns, but they will probably become the largest vessels in the coast guard fleet of Trinidad and Tobago.

I really like the lines of this sleek design.

 

[alexsa]

Austal Delivers Two Cape-class Patrol Boats to Trinidad and Tobago Coast Guard - Naval News

Austal Limited is pleased to announce that Austal Australia has delivered two Cape-class Patrol Boats to the Trinidad and Tobago Coast Guard (TTCG).

www.navalnews.com

These two patrol boats are the first Cape-class vessels manufactured by Austal to be exported. It is unclear if these boats are equipped with machineguns, but they will probably become the largest vessels in the coast guard fleet of Trinidad and Tobago.

I really like the lines of this sleek design.

The Cape Class are an evolution of the Armidale Class patrol boat was used as the basis of the the new design for Border Force. This did correct some of the structural issues found in the ACPB. The TT vessels are an evolution on the Cape Class as some of the facilities for 'folk picked up from the sea' are not required and this space has been used differently. From what I know the the vessels will be provided unarmed (this may have changed since I was involved) and it will be up to TT to arm the vessels if they wish. The new navy vessels will be pretty much the same arrangement (systems will differ).

They are still all aluminium alloy vessels. As a side observation, the Guardian Class (somewhat smaller) have a steel hull and aluminium superstructure (every structure above the upper deck basically). I am always a tad nervous when explosively bonded bimetal joints are in a position where they can be knocked about but they do have steel fendering just below the joins.

Post script ..... I had meant to mention that the Armidale class is not the most attractive vessel IMHO

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

Abu Dhabi Ship Building already got a lot of experience and expertise while building most of the Baynunah-class ships, a class of corvettes designed by CMN from France.

UAE Navy Orders Falaj 3-class Offshore Patrol Vessels from ADSB - Naval News

ADSB, the regional leader in the new build, repair, maintenance, refit and conversion of naval and commercial vessels, was today awarded an AED3.5 billion contract by the Ministry of Defence (MOD) and UAE Navy, to build four Falaj 3-class Offshore Patrol Vessels (OPVs).

www.navalnews.com

Emirati shipbuilder receives record $1B order for Navy ships

Each ship is expected to feature a combat management system, sensors, and electronic warfare and weapon systems.

www.defensenews.com

The four ordered Falaj-3 OPVs look similar with the Gowind Class of frigates ordered from DCNS, but the new OPVs seems to be from another design, after all the design partner in this project is ST Engineering from Singapore.

 

[cdxbow]

The UK has developed a Extra-Large Unmanned Underwater Vehicle (XLUUV) The Navy sub commanded by artificial intelligence - BBC News
Generally appears to be similar type of craft to the USN Orca.