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koxinga

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This is one of two large ship ("frigate #1") under construction in NK. My guess is the Nampho facilities that was expanded over the last two years.

 
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koxinga

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"frigate #2" No cladding type walls, but camo netting. Should be the same Nampho yard, just a different slipway.


 
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koxinga said:
This is one of two large ship ("frigate #1") under construction in NK. My guess is the Nampho facilities that was expanded over the last two years.

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It is really impressive that a country like North-Korea has a shipyard like this Nympho facilities. The design looks quite similar to the Jose Rizal Class made by Hyundai Heavy Industries, coincidence?
 
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N. Korean leader inspects project to build nuclear-powered submarine - The Korea Times

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has inspected a project to build a nuclear-powered submarine, warning that his country's maritime defense capabilit...
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ROK media and AP claim that during Fat Kim visit to the shipyard for inspecting the Frigates, he also visiting North Korea first nuclear submarine. ROK sources calculate the SSN/SSGN are at 7000 ton and have guided missile capabilities with unclear warhead. Some suggestions it's the similar submarine launch cruise missiles that they have test last year.


ROK claim that Russia has given DPRK the design of nuclear reactor for submarine as part of Putin promises to Kim for their support on Ukraine war. I'm bit sceptical on this, as of it is design that they give, unlikely North Korea already have ready nuclear reactor to that submarine operational in just couple of years. I suspect DPRK already have one in program, and Russia just give finishing touch on the existing program.

Either way it will be the largest submarine that DPRK have, and will raise question whether both ROK and Japan will venture on their own SSN/SSGN program. ROK has been speculate by online enthusiasts to have their own SSN design base on enlargements of their KSS-3. Perhaps Japan can also enlarged their Taigei for SSN. Both of them have capabilities to build their own submarine nuclear reactor.
 
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Türkiye and Thailand Strengthen Naval Cooperation with the MILGEM Frigate Proposal

Türkiye and Thailand Strengthen Naval Cooperation with the MILGEM Frigate Proposal
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Turkiye seems building traction for their MILGEM Frigate and Corvette. Pakistan and Malaysia already choose Alda Corvette design derivative, and Istif Frigate so far being rumours already got preference possition to supply 4 Frigate to Indonesia. Now they are also in contention for 4 Frigate to Thailand.
 
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Items in UNREP aren't lifted by helicopter, but transferred via highline.

In fact, VERTREP via helicopter is fairly rare other than to move personnel or extremely high-priority items - unless Royal Navy procedures in this regard differ vastly from the rest of the world.

Heavy lift drones would still have a benefit though, i.e. removing the need for the ships to maneuver alongside. Not fully though - according to the manufacturer the drones used apparently only have a range of 8 km (<5nm) with full payload under optimal weather conditions, and their speed when loaded is fairly slow at around 100 km/h.
 
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Personally I see balance Chinese Influence with Russian ones. Shown DPRK continue maintain defense cooperation with both Beijing and Moscow. Not just increasing with Moscow only as some Western pundit put.
 
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koxinga

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The forward superstructure resembles the Akizuki class of JMSDF with the FCS-3A.

Vanity project since it will be a priority target by USN or ROKN.
 
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Xavier in Peru talking to HHI on their projects with Peru national shipyard SIMA. The Frigate and OPV is base on the export design they already sold to Philippines Navy.

Personally I'm more interested with their Submarine design. As this is new design, which seems smaller version of KSS3 but the size of KSS2 (which also basically 214). Full Li-Ion pack and seems want to compete with NG larger Scorpene in South American market.
 
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koxinga

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More photos of the destroyer here: 로동신문



edit: Website is slow to download. Initial comments: There seems to be two different types of VLS silos and my guess is they are housing Haeseong-3 LACMs as well as the AAW missile (maybe a Pyoljji-12 derived)
 
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Sandhi Yudha said:
is a huge improvement over ships like the Sariwon or Najin classes
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Agree on that, this Ships will not be much a match to any ROKN new Frigates let alone Destroyers. However DPRK Navy still need to provide updated surface vessels. Considering their situation, those ships will be good exercise for their Shipyards. Perhaps in similar ways that Myanmar domestic build Frigates. Both isolated regimes and need to shown their Military Production to continue support their hold on to power.

Besides with the amounts of VLS they carry, I don't think DPRK plan for them to face ROKN vessels directly. More likely they are going to operate on coastal waters and launch salvo of their missiles, being covered by DPRK aerial assets. It won't make them Green Water Navy and still stay as Brown Water ones.
 
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koxinga

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KPA Bot has downloaded most of the photos.

Main gun (forward) - 127mm? I was thinking more 130mm, derived from the old 130 mm/58 (5.1") SM-2-1
CIWS (aft) - Kashtan style gun (30mm) missile complex
CIWS (port/starboard) - AK630 type 30mm
ASW rockets (port/starboard) - new 4 round trainable launchers
Decoy systems (port/starboard x 4) - unknown.
VLS (large x 10, aft) - Large silos, probably LACM type system.
VLS (small, x 12 aft, x 32 forward) - some kind of short range AAW. The covers reminds me of that land based SA-15/Tor type system that they showed a while back.
VLS (medium x 8 aft, x 12 forward) - some kind of medium range AAW, maybe Pyojin type?
ASHM (amidship) - similar to Amnok corvette - Haesung-3 type?
Torpedos - I spy some shutters that would suggest torpedoes. There is a ground display of the weapons on board so that would be no surprise.

Large arrays for radars, EW (passive/active)

It looks like what KJN would want, but economic / military sense is out of the window here.

 
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