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hauritz

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Stampede said:
A very interesting question
I guess the answer will evolve over time.
Do unmanned "things" increase of decrease the propensity for conflict?

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I think there could be an increased risk of conflict. I think that nations would be willing to take risks with drones that they would not do if there were human pilots. Incursions into other countries territories could become more frequent. The information you could get about an enemies air defences could be well worth the loss of a few drones.

The Chinese may well not want to fire on ships testing their right of passage through the disputed areas in the South China Sea but they might not think twice about shooting down a drone.
 
Ananda

Ananda

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Not find thread for Netherlands/Belgium Navy, so put it here.
However my comment more to the trend on upscale Mine Countermeasures Ships..as this is quite enlarge from the Tripartite MCV the Dutch/Belgium replacing.

Seems the trend on reliance on UAV and USV and the size shown Blue Water capabilities rather than Green Water/Regional lines in Tripartite.
 
ngatimozart

ngatimozart

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John Fedup said:
The late Paul Allen's (Microsoft co-founder) yacht is up for sale. Octopus and crew discovered several significant WW2 wrecks in the Pacific theatre. A very impressive vessel at over 10,000 tons.

You Can Buy Paul Allen's Octopus, Arguably The World's Most Incredible Yacht
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Impressive indeed. Don't think I'll bother putting a bid in though. Her indoors would be most unimpressed - make me life a misery and would give the bank manager a stroke and probably a heart attack and hernia - from laughing.
 
Ananda

Ananda

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From Naval News on SAAB newest submarine A-26. My comment more on Damen cooperation with SAAB on using A26 as based for their bid on replacing Walrus class submarine for Netherlands Navy.

This seems confirm that Netherlands (in this case Damen) after building Walrus, did not able to maintain continous manufacture capabilities of Submarine, thus seems need 'other' supplier support to get back on to Submarine game.
In other hand Sweden more or less manage maintain continous manufacture development capabilities in Submarine.

Clearly Damen hope to not only used A26 as based for Dutch new generation Subs, but also using it as based to enter export market with SAAB

Netherlands and Sweden in my opinion can be used as example for countries that already have or want to attain Submarine manufacturing capabilities.
Netherlands neglect on continous development after Walrus seems taking price on their domestic capabilities, which even still there, has to used others design to jump start.
On other hand even for country that only maintain limited submarine, Sweden abilities being maintain with continue development stages, where their submarine practically come to 'remanufacture' stages on their life time (as in the early video they show what they have done with Gotland class).
 
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Sandhi Yudha

Sandhi Yudha

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Ananda said:

From Naval News on SAAB newest submarine A-26. My comment more on Damen cooperation with SAAB on using A26 as based for their bid on replacing Walrus class submarine for Netherlands Navy.

This seems confirm that Netherlands (in this case Damen) after building Walrus, did not able to maintain continous manufacture capabilities of Submarine, thus seems need 'other' supplier support to get back on to Submarine game.
In other hand Sweden more or less manage maintain continous manufacture development capabilities in Submarine.

Clearly Damen hope to not only used A26 as based for Dutch new generation Subs, but also using it as based to enter export market with SAAB

Netherlands and Sweden in my opinion can be used as example for countries that already have or want to attain Submarine manufacturing capabilities.
Netherlands neglect on continous development after Walrus seems taking price on their domestic capabilities, which even still there, has to used others design to jump start.
On other hand even for country that only maintain limited submarine, Sweden abilities being maintain with continue development stages, where their submarine practically come to 'remanufacture' stages on their life time (as in the early video they show what they have done with Gotland class).
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Sadly the Netherlands isn't able anymore to construct submarines, that the Rotterdamse Droogdok Maatschappij went bankrupt was not only because of mismanagement inside the company, but also because of the weak attitude of the Dutch government. In the '90s Taiwan wanted to order the Walrusklasse, the two Zwaardvisklasse submarines of the Taiwanese Navy were good, but two are not enough. Initially the Netherlands wanted to sell the Walrusklasse, but Communistic China forbid the Netherlands to sell them to Taiwan, China even promised to order Fokker aircrafts if the Netherlands did not sell those boats to Taiwan. The Dutch government obeyed the Chinese, but the Chinese did not order Fokkers and in the end both Fokker and RDM went bankrupt... :-|

The A26 Viking Class is also a project continuesly on hold for over 20 years, which is really obvious if looking to the old name of the project: "U-båt 2000".
So hopefully the cooperation between Kockums and Koninklijke Schelde/Damen Shipyards will become successful, after all both companies are well known for the great quality of their products and according to the Defensienota 2018, the Walrusklasse are planned for replacement starting in 2027.
 
Todjaeger

Todjaeger

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ngatimozart said:
Poland is looking at replacing its SH-2G Seasprites because of lack of technical support. This sounds very familiar because NZDF had exactly the same problem with their SH-2G(NZ) Seasprites due to Kamans very poor after sales service.

Poland to float Seasprite replacement plan
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Honestly I am not really surprised. There are only something like 27 SH-2G Super Seasprites in service worldwide and the impression I have gotten is that the Kaman Corporation has largely gotten out of the whole helicopter business and instead does more work as a component supplier.
 
ngatimozart

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ngatimozart said:
Poland is looking at replacing its SH-2G Seasprites because of lack of technical support. This sounds very familiar because NZDF had exactly the same problem with their SH-2G(NZ) Seasprites due to Kamans very poor after sales service.

Poland to float Seasprite replacement plan
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According to Scramble Magazine the Poles have signed an acquisition deal worth €380 million with Leonardo for 4 x AW101 in ASW configuration. It is not yet known if these helos are to replace any particular type. Wil be interesting to see if these are indeed the Seasprite replacements or are for something else.
 
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John Fedup

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ngatimozart said:
According to Scramble Magazine the Poles have signed an acquisition deal worth €380 million with Leonardo for 4 x AW101 in ASW configuration. It is not yet known if these helos are to replace any particular type. Wil be interesting to see if these are indeed the Seasprite replacements or are for something else.
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A great choice which Canada should have retained years ago.
 
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Redlands18

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Ananda said:
Italy in talks to sell frigates to Egypt

Two FREMM of Italian production stock are being discuss for potential sell to Egypt. This is from GP version, while the Italian according to this article will replace those GP version to ASW version if the sell goes through.
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Egypt is already operating 1 French ASW FREMM so have some experience in operating them but there are significant differences especially in the Sensors and CMS, though both use the Aster 15 as there primary AD system.
 
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