Grand Danois
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That requires for the the system to be exoatmospheric and be able to handle intercept vekocities of 7,800 m/s. At least the GMD should be able to handle that.
But it would be easier with a dedicated ASAT. Wrong thread, btw.
Comparing anti-missile systems in the world
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But it would be easier with a dedicated ASAT. Wrong thread, btw.
Well, as someone who is very much familier with the Arrow 2 and also with the basic changes in the Arrow 3 system, I can say that I would go for the Arrow.
As someone here already said, this is the only system in the world that was tested properly and was prooved damn good.
In December 2005 I think was the last test of the Arrow 2 againts a ballistic missiles coming from Iran, a very high speed missiles ( Mach 8.5 if I remember correctly ) that changed it course during the test few times, and the Arrow didn't had any problem calculating the new course each time and intrecepted the missile with 100% success.
Never, in any test, an ABM system have accomplished such thing.
I wont say that the Arrow doesn't have bad sides, like the high cost of each missile that it is a problem for country such as Israel, that needs it the most but doesn't have the budget for it.
Also, I think that the Arrow mobility system ( an Arrow battery mounted on vehicle ) is not very good.
And the reason is very simple, that in a country like Israel it doesn't matter where you put the battery, in a speed of Mach 9.5 the missile will work the same from anywhere.
I know there's 1 mobile Arrow battery in the Israeli south, but I do not know how does it work, but I heared its not anything like the S-300 or S-400..
As someone here already said, this is the only system in the world that was tested properly and was prooved damn good.
In December 2005 I think was the last test of the Arrow 2 againts a ballistic missiles coming from Iran, a very high speed missiles ( Mach 8.5 if I remember correctly ) that changed it course during the test few times, and the Arrow didn't had any problem calculating the new course each time and intrecepted the missile with 100% success.
Never, in any test, an ABM system have accomplished such thing.
I wont say that the Arrow doesn't have bad sides, like the high cost of each missile that it is a problem for country such as Israel, that needs it the most but doesn't have the budget for it.
Also, I think that the Arrow mobility system ( an Arrow battery mounted on vehicle ) is not very good.
And the reason is very simple, that in a country like Israel it doesn't matter where you put the battery, in a speed of Mach 9.5 the missile will work the same from anywhere.
I know there's 1 mobile Arrow battery in the Israeli south, but I do not know how does it work, but I heared its not anything like the S-300 or S-400..
contedicavour
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I'm astonished a missile can reach Mach 9.5 speeds ... Mach 4 yes (Aster 30), but here you're talking more than twice the speed !? :unknown
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DoC_FouALieR
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For a balisitic missile during its reentry phase, I think there is nothing strange about it, isn't it?
That depends on the missile. Is it flying up or flying down.
Ballistic Missile on terminal phase can reach upto Mach 14+ since there is gravity, and it's accelerating under freefall from extremely high altitude. The anti-ballistic missile flying up to meet it is essentially swimming against the current.
DoC_FouALieR
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Never heard about the Antey 2500. Could you give me some piece of information about it, Viktor?
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I was inactive for a while.
Antey-2500 is basicly highly modernised S-300V called S-300VM. Its nicname Antey-2500 means Antey company produced it with the ability to take down balistic missiles with the range up to 2500km.
There is plenty more information around. Use google little.
Persoanllima go with a nice old fashioned system
NIKE X although i woudl take it with the Spartan missile.
The notion that nuclear interceptors kncok out your own radars is just aload of BS. ANyways if we deployed this ssytem the Soviets would respond with a nuclea arms buildup and lets not forget there are cheap countermeasures against this such as MARV's(think TOPOL M and you'll know what i am talking about).
But its not deployed so I pick the GBI/THAAD combo.
NIKE X although i woudl take it with the Spartan missile.
http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/congress/1996_h/h960927l.htm
The notion that nuclear interceptors kncok out your own radars is just aload of BS. ANyways if we deployed this ssytem the Soviets would respond with a nuclea arms buildup and lets not forget there are cheap countermeasures against this such as MARV's(think TOPOL M and you'll know what i am talking about).
But its not deployed so I pick the GBI/THAAD combo.
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Grand Danois
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THAAD enters production and is to be deployed 2009.
Israel may replace Arrow missile defense system with U.S. version
Also this:
Israel may replace Arrow missile defense system with U.S. version
Damm those iranians are ahead of British tech in there missiles:shudder .and that mack 8.5 speeds.just 1 question mate who did the iranians fired that Missile at.
Last i checked the only missile americans menaged to shoot down was completely modified and had a homing beacon installed on it.even then its not a 100% kill.as far as iam concerned shooting a bullet with a bullet will never ever be 100% kill and with the new generation of missile and decoy war heads.it will stay a dream.
It was a test, it wasn't a real iranian missile, it was Israeli missile beeing fired at Israel's direction from above Jordan.
Few days ago, the THAAD managed to shoot down a SCUD. Very nice progress if you ask me.
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Well Scuds are like V-2 rockets for ages present around here so intercepting 300km range rocket is not big deal - US has still testing to do.
As I understand US is intoducing in the service ABM systems whitch are still unproven but they hope to upgrade it during time, same as for GBI.
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THAAD had another succesfull test.
Does anybody know carateristic of the target??
http://www.missilesandfirecontrol.com/our_news/pressreleases/07pressrelease/THAAD_040607.htm
Does anybody know carateristic of the target??
http://www.missilesandfirecontrol.com/our_news/pressreleases/07pressrelease/THAAD_040607.htm
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The only BMD capable of handling an ICBM at the moment is probably the GMD, which so far is only deployed to protect the US. A similar system is what is being proposed for Europe, which will cover the UK from BM launches from ME and most of North Africa, IIRC.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground-Based_Midcourse_Defense
THAAD is supposed to be able to deal with the shorter ranged ICBM, 5500km+, perhaps the JL-2 is included. That's why the test are quite interesting.
Missile defence
who is this new system built by? where abouts will it be based and which countries are funding it? do you know how long it will be before it enters service if it ever does. I doubt the british government will support it, the amount of defence cuts we are getting is outragous. I thought that the patriot and other missiles like the israeli arrow could also shoot down ballistic missiles. correct me if im wrong.
could you give me a bit of info on the THAAD system, a website or your own personal knowledge? thanks!!
who is this new system built by? where abouts will it be based and which countries are funding it? do you know how long it will be before it enters service if it ever does. I doubt the british government will support it, the amount of defence cuts we are getting is outragous. I thought that the patriot and other missiles like the israeli arrow could also shoot down ballistic missiles. correct me if im wrong.
could you give me a bit of info on the THAAD system, a website or your own personal knowledge? thanks!!