CANZUK Bloc

[Arclighy]

I hope people don't mind me resurrecting this thread, but people may not have noticed that CPTPP members agreed a few weeks ago to allow formal talks for the UK to join.

CPTPP trading bloc nations agree to allow UK to start joining process

Member nations of the 11-country CPTPP have agreed to allow the UK to begin the process of joining the trading bloc, a Japanese minister says.

www.cityam.com

I may have missed something but how is CPTPP related to CANZUK? The CPTPP actually exists where as CANUK is a pipedream.

 

[John Fedup]

Guess I missed Biden’s take on the CPTPP, anyone seen info on US intentions?

 

[ngatimozart]

I may have missed something but how is CPTPP related to CANZUK? The CPTPP actually exists where as CANUK is a pipedream.

Anyway who says that we want the poms in? They drink warm beer, cheat at rugby and cricket, have strange habits, whinge etc.,

 

[ngatimozart]

Guess I missed Biden’s take on the CPTPP, anyone seen info on US intentions?

Not yet, but this time around they will find it somewhat harder to get the more rabid of their claims accepted.

 

[John Fedup]

Not yet, but this time around they will find it somewhat harder to get the more rabid of their claims accepted.

Acceptance of claims will be a function of how much other members want US participation.

 

[Musashi_kenshin]

I may have missed something but how is CPTPP related to CANZUK? The CPTPP actually exists where as CANUK is a pipedream.

UK membership of CPTPP was raised here previously as a more realistic form of UK-et al cooperation than CANZUK. Moving into the formal negotiation process is worth mentioning because CPTPP members had to informally approve the UK's bid first.

 

[MARKMILES77]

May be it is time to seriously raise the idea of a CANZUK group.
Both as an economic bloc and a defence and security organization.
At the speed with which Trump looks to be destroying/dismantling pre-existing economic and security
arrangements alternatives will likely be needed.

 

[John Fedup]

May be it is time to seriously raise the idea of a CANZUK group.
Both as an economic bloc and a defence and security organization.
At the speed with which Trump looks to be destroying/dismantling pre-existing economic and security
arrangements alternatives will likely be needed.

What’s the status of CPTPP these days? Bigger block, no US membership (or China yet). AFAIK, any member can vote to block new members. Canada and Mexico likely would reject US membership as any agreement with America isn’t worth the paper it’s written on. The existing 3 nation trade agreement is proof of how useless any trade pact with the US is.

 

[76mmGuns]

May be it is time to seriously raise the idea of a CANZUK group.
Both as an economic bloc and a defence and security organization.
At the speed with which Trump looks to be destroying/dismantling pre-existing economic and security
arrangements alternatives will likely be needed.

I think the issues are easily understood and I can't see this working out with any huge success. Distances, small populations, militaries and economies and politics. If somehow all nations combined into a single landmass, I think we'd have a pretty good arrangement, but alas it's not so.

 

[Sandhi Yudha]

People in Canada have their doubts about the current relationship with the US. Even if trump suddenly try to pretend to be Canada's best friend, the trust is gone and the relationship is damaged for ever. On the other hand, the Canadian people are more united and nationalistic than ever.

Canadees patriottisme leeft op door burenruzie VS: 'Ongekende eensgezindheid'

And now in Australia they have their doubts about the AUKUS submarine cooperation program. According to this article trump didn't even know what AUKUS is, when asked about by a journalist.

Grote twijfels in Australië en VS over onderzeebootsamenwerking AUKUS

Zorgen over de VS en over het programma zelf

marineschepen.nl

 

[John Fedup]

People in Canada have their doubts about the current relationship with the US. Even if trump suddenly try to pretend to be Canada's best friend, the trust is gone and the relationship is damaged for ever. On the other hand, the Canadian people are more united and nationalistic than ever.

Canadees patriottisme leeft op door burenruzie VS: 'Ongekende eensgezindheid'

And now in Australia they have their doubts about the AUKUS submarine cooperation program. According to this article trump didn't even know what AUKUS is, when asked about by a journalist.

Grote twijfels in Australië en VS over onderzeebootsamenwerking AUKUS

Zorgen over de VS en over het programma zelf

marineschepen.nl

The list of of people with doubts about America increases every time Trump opens his mouth along with his minions parroting his BS.