Another new fighter jet for Korea

[Waylander]

Yehaw, we germans are known for being extremely anglophile you see it especially when you look at our behaviour when we followed the US in their Iraq campaign without doubts...

Many here both from other countries and the US itself disagree with actions of the US as well as agree with other actions.
Both understand and welcome some actions of China and disagree with others.
This is normal and no sign for a total bias against your country.

Disgrading everybody which doesn't agree with you in every part of your opinion as an US lover and puppet is just stupid and no base for a civilised dsicussion.
Some national pride is ok but what you are doing here is just turning more and more into a pure anti-us campaign.

 

[swerve]

so what are these, us troops on foreign soil, or just natural anglophiles?

I'm an anglophile, because I like myself. I'm English. I don't particularly like Americans*. But if I did, I'd be an Americophile.

Get the terminology right. English are not Americans.

*nor dislike them, in general.

 

[swerve]

You might not have known this. But we gave up outer mongolia (2 million sq kilometers), and a sizable chunk of Manchuria to Soviets. We're nationalistic but not suicidal. Koreans are same.

No you didn't. Outer Mongolia seceded before there were Soviets, & the north-eastern territories taken from China (which, BTW, was not exactly controlled, there being no Chinese officials in most of it) & now part of Russia were ceded before Lenin was even born. Learn your own history before you start lecturing on it!

Of course Koreans aren't suicidal. But neither would they be your devoted poodles, despite your fantasies. They don't like you, don't trust you, & resent you ruling over a few million Koreans. The Korea "just like you" you imagine would not be your friend. It would trade with you, but guard the border, & its military would mostly face you.

You fondly imagine that everyone on your borders is anxious to acknowledge the Middle Kingdoms superiority & pay tribute, like in the old days, & only the evil Americans prevent the poor downtrodden Koreans from returning to the overlordship of their natural masters. Sorry mate, but it ain't so. None of your neighbours ever liked you, any more than the neighbours of imperialists ever do. They paid tribute because they were scared. Some of them actually prefer an alliance with a remote power, even if they resent its arrogance & don't necessarily like it better than you, because it's likely to give them more leeway. Of course, they'd prefer to run their own affairs without having to look over their shoulders at Big Brother, but they don't believe you'd allow that, so they need someone else to keep you off their backs. And if they play it clever, maybe they can use you to keep anyone else off their backs.

 

[goldenpanda]

No you didn't. Outer Mongolia seceded before there were Soviets, & the north-eastern territories taken from China (which, BTW, was not exactly controlled, there being no Chinese officials in most of it) & now part of Russia were ceded before Lenin was even born. Learn your own history before you start lecturing on it!

No you learn some history. Is mongol succession same as chinese allowing it? The Taiwanese still have outer mongolia on their map whenever they show China. The People's Republic of China in 1950's accepted a much smaller national map than the ROC, in deference to the Soviet Union.

Of course Koreans aren't suicidal. But neither would they be your devoted poodles, despite your fantasies. They don't like you, don't trust you, & resent you ruling over a few million Koreans. The Korea "just like you" you imagine would not be your friend. It would trade with you, but guard the border, & its military would mostly face you.

But they hate USA more, don't they? Where is Kim's military facing today? They don't dare even carry guns near our border. So who's talking in fantasies here.

The rest of your comments... you're just sour a billion muslims want to wipe Americans off the earth--but they live with Chinese just fine.

 

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