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india and italy already have an agreement in place for the joint development of warships.india also has a similiar agrrement with germany and usa,though i doubt if usa is in any posistion to offer india a 4600 ton design.

here check out this link :

http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?F=2373565&C=asiapac

Italy, a limited supplier of military equipment to India, has proposed the two countries join forces to develop defense products.
During a Nov. 15-16 visit here, Lorenzo Forceri, Italian deputy defense minister, said the two governments have decided to turn their 2003 memorandum of understanding on transfer of defense equipment, technical assistance and defense industrial cooperation into a formal agreement, which is likely to be signed shortly.
“Italy has proposed [to] the Indian government to finalize government-to-government agreements to cooperate with India on specific [defense] programs,” Forceri said following talks with M.M. Pallam Raju, Indian deputy defense minister.
One such program could be the joint development of combat systems for the Air Defence Ship (ADS), India’s indigenous aircraft carrier, which is being built with technical help from Italy. Italian shipbuilder Fincantieri, besides building the ship’s propulsion system, is helping the Indian Navy design the ADS and acting as a consultant.
“If India comes up with its specific additional submarine requirements,” Forceri said, “Italy will always be ready to offer to work as a partner in designing, developing and producing the submarines.”
Another area where the two countries can work together is the joint production of 127/64mm canons for Indian Navy warships and other small frigates, Forceri said. India’s state-owned Bharat Heavy Electrical is currently manufacturing 76/62 naval guns for Navy vessels under technology transferred from Italy’s Oto Melara.
Italy and India also are cooperating on a number of other defense programs, including an oceanographic survey vessel, maritime patrol aircraft, heavyweight torpedoes for submarines, anti-submarine helicopters for the Indian Navy, and advanced warships and frigates, Forceri said.
 
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i wish we can acuire an enlarged (4600 ton) version of the swedish visby class of stealth missile corvettes,though i wonder how much it would cost?
 
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hey guys,it seems that the indian navy has finally recognised the problem of chinese expansion into the indian ocean region and is now formulating the steps to counter this move.

here check out this link and article:

http://www.moneycontrol.com/india/n...dianoceanoutopen/market/stocks/article/254225

It's Navy Day today and India's Navy Chief has warned that Sino-Indian rivalry is spilling over to the seas. He says India must take steps to counter the Chinese threat from the sea, reports CNBC-TV18.
On December 4, 1971, the Indian Navy earned its spurs as a war fighting force by launching a blistering attack on Karachi. The day has since been observed as Navy Day. Ahead of Navy Day, India's Naval leadership has outlined the new threats from the sea to India's security.
"China is, therefore, we believe, developing a certain amount of, in our terms, we call it shaping the maritime battlefield," says Chief of Naval Staff, Admiral Sureesh Mehta.
The Asian rivalry to dominate the Indian Ocean Region is now out into the open. And India has made its unease over increasing Chinese presence clear.
"Policies are always made 20 years ahead. So they're looking far ahead. We also need to look far ahead and make sure we have the capability," he adds.
The Navy also insists that Chinese companies be kept out of port modernization projects. According to Admiral Sureesh Mehta, "The date, which is of a sensitive nature like hydrology, if that gets known to a nation, which may be inimical to you in the years ahead, then it's a cause for concern."
The Admiral's concern is that most Indian warships can operate only in shallow waters whereas naval superiority will be determined on the high seas. So, plug the gaps now or face the prospect of hostile forces, determinging the agenda in the waters around India - that is the Indian Navy's warning.
 
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hey guys,great news ,indian navy is to increase its surveillance capabilities in the gujarat region,they will set up a new facility to cater to the needs of the entire western naval command.

here check out this link and article:

http://www.outlookindia.com/pti_news.asp?gid=11&id=435451


The Navy is setting up a hi-tech surveillance centre here to monitor possible terror threats to economic installations in the state.
Minister of State for Defence M M Pallam Raju, who was here to participate in the Navy Week celebrations, yesterday said, "The old port building at the entrance of Porbandar harbour will be handed over to the Navy and we are going to set up the survelliance centre there."
"It will be equipped with radars and will become the surveillance centre for the entire Western region," Raju said.
Raju, who spoke to reporters on-board the Talwar class frigate INS Trishul and was accompanied by Naval Officer-in-charge (Gujarat) Commodore Uttpal Vora, said "The easiest way for terrorists to destabilise a nation is by targeting areas of economic activity. The country's most important economic assets like oil refineries are primarly on Gujarat's shores."
 
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hey guys,check out this interesting article about the the indian navy's new plans for raising an expeditionary force jointly with the indian army.

here check out this link and article:

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1068555

The day is not far away when India would boast of its own Marine Corps, an infantry based on Indian naval ships carrying out amphibious operations. Indications of such a lethal force for both combat and rescue operations are clear, as the Indian Navy is preparing for the arrival of USS Trenton, the massive Landing Platform Dock, that can carry almost 1,000 soldiers, six helicopters and smaller landing boats.
Earlier, there had been discussions on the possibility of a dedicated Marine Corps springing from Trenton’s induction. Plans were made to train army men to tackle tsunami threats and equip them with the latest combat operations to take up any challenge within the Indian territory. USS Trenton, which would be handed over to the Indian Navy in mid-January, is expected to arrive in India sometime during the middle of next year.
The Trenton would be renamed ‘INS Jalashva’ and would have army units practicing on board for amphibious operations, senior navy officers told DNA. Navy Chief Admiral Suresh Mehta, said Trenton would need “marine battalions”, referring to army units that would practice on it.
According to military sources, the arrival of Trenton and its subsequent operations could trigger a series of developments. It will help India build various expeditionary forces, including a sizeable number of Marine Corps, on board ships like Trenton. This would finally lead to the creation of a Marine Corps, they said.
A few weeks before his retirement, former Navy Chief Admiral Arun Prakash wrote to Army Chief General JJ Singh suggesting that the Army also co-owns naval assets, such as the Trenton as part of its effort to maintain cohesiveness and amphibious war fighting capabilities. General Singh has responded favourably to Prakash’s proposal, sources told DNA.
Though final contours of India’s future amphibious force, or a naval infantry, are yet to be drawn, naval officers feel that the arrival of Trenton would trigger construction of large-sized landing ships in India that could carry hundreds of soldiers, several helicopters and other equipment for marine operations.
Admiral Mehta said that India needs to highlight on large-scale amphibious operations given the country’s islands and especially after experience of the tsunami. The new and improved marine forces will not only add sting to operations on sea but at the same time ensure peace in the unchartered territories.
At present, the only regular amphibious training that the Indian military undertakes is in the Andaman & Nicobar Islands. An Army Brigade stationed there regularly carries out training with local naval units.
Recently, an unit of the Indian Army undertook amphibious operational training with the US forces for the first time during a joint-exercise along the western coast. India’s recently-released Maritime Strategy and maritime capabilities perspective plan speak of the need for expeditionary force and the capability to move troops and material across waters quickly.
 
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hey guys,great news,the work on the first of the indian made scorpenes is to start from december 15th,india is also considering equipping their scorpenes with the mesma air independent propulsion systems each valued at 50-60million dollars.

here check out this link and article:

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...corpenes_to_debut_soon/articleshow/779641.cms

India's gigantic Rs 18,798-crore project to construct six French Scorpene submarines at Mazgaon Docks Ltd (MDL) in Mumbai will finally kick off this week after over a year of preparatory work.

The "steel-cutting" for the Scorpene project at MDL is likely to take place on December 15, with defence minister A K Antony presiding over the ceremony.

"Over the last one year, the MDL infrastructure has been upgraded to handle the submarine construction, along with proper training of personnel. Now, the work will actually begin on fabricating the submarine hull. The six submarines will be delivered, one per year, between 2012 and 2017,"said a senior official.

The project has been dogged by some controversy, with allegations of kickbacks having swirled around the October 2005 contracts signed with two French companies — Rs 6,135-crore with M/s Armaris for transfer of technology and construction design, and Rs 1,062-crore with M/s MBDA for sea-skimming Exocet missiles.

But the Navy hopes it will be smooth sailing for the project now. The projections made by the force show it will be left with only nine out of its present fleet of 16 diesel-electric submarines (10 Russian Kilo-class, four German HDW and two Foxtrot) by 2012.

"The number will further decline to five by 2014. But with the Scorpene project running smoothly, we will be able to arrest the decline to eight submarines by 2015, and thereafter maintain it at a level of nine till 2018,"said an officer.

Both Pakistan and China, at the same time, are steadily augmenting their underwater fleets. Pakistan, for instance, has inducted three new French Agosta-90B submarines, armed with Harpoon and Exocet missiles, in recent years.

China, of course, is leagues ahead with over 65 submarines, one-third of them being nuclear ones. With the Scorpene project now finally kicking off, the Navy's 30-year perspective programme to acquire indigenous capability in construction of submarines has also swung into motion.

"This long-term plan envisages manufacture of 24 submarines in a phased manner. Initially, there will be two lines with six submarines in each of them. While Scorpene is one, the process to chose the other one, will soon begin,"said the officer.

MDL, on its part, hopes to achieve 50% indigenisation by the time the sixth Scorpene rolls out in 2017. "It will require eight lakh mandays per submarine. By the end, we would have acquired competence in submarine-building,"said an official.

The Navy, incidentally, is also exploring the possibility of incorporating the Mesma air-independent propulsion (AIP) systems in the last three Scorpenes.

The AIP system, each costing $50-60 million, significantly enhances a conventional submarine's operational capabilities.
 
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hey guys ,great news ,indian navy is to issue the request for proposals for the acquisition of the maritime patrol aircrafts,these are to be sent to usa for the p8i mma,for a variant of the orion,to eads for a customised variant of the a319/a320,israeli backed improved version of the russian il38 and the falcon900.

indian navy has also shown some interest in the bell v22 osprey tilt wing aircraft.

here check out this link and article:

http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles/2006/12/12/211049/India+to+issue+maritime+shortlist.html

New Delhi to step up contest for new reconnaissance platforms, while interest in V-22 Osprey emerges

The Indian navy is poised to announce the shortlist for its maritime reconnaissance aircraft contest "any day now", says Boeing, which is offering a P-8I variant of its 737-based P-8A Multi-mission Maritime Aircraft now in development for the US Navy.
Other types in contention for the eight-aircraft programme include a special mission version of the Airbus A319/A320 from EADS, a package based on Dassault's Falcon 900 business jet also backed by Israel Aerospace Industries, an improved version of the Ilyushin Il-38 and a refurbished P-3 Orion promoted by Lockheed Martin.
Boeing has urged the Indian government to broaden the rules of its offset policy related to the deal to allow companies to look across the nation's aviation business, including both its defence and commercial aircraft activities. "The policy should be opened to the entire aerospace segment," said Integrated Defense Systems president Jim Albaugh during a visit to India last week. "If done right, offsets will introduce more complex technology and processes that India doesn't currently enjoy."
India is also mulling the possible future purchase of the Bell Boeing V-22 Osprey tiltrotor after its ongoing F-X fighter and army light utility helicopter programmes are concluded, says Boeing. "There has been some interest from the Indian ministry of defence, but nothing beyond that," it adds.
Indian defence officials and Boeing have held initial talks on the programme, but industry sources say the rotorcraft's price tag could be a stumbling block to any future sale. "Even if they get it down to $60 million in 2010 from the current $70 million, it might be too expensive," says one.
New Delhi's immediate priority is to complete tenders for 126 multi-role combat aircraft - the Boeing F/A-18E/F Super Hornet, Dassault Rafale, Eurofighter Typhoon, Lockheed Martin F-16, RSK MiG-35 or Saab Gripen - and 197 light utility helicopters. The Bell 407 and Eurocopter AS550 are contesting the army requirement. "The Osprey will add to the military's transport and combat search-and-rescue capabilities, but that's not urgent. Talks will start after the F-X contest," says a source.
 
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hey guys ,great news,governement of india is to sign offset contract deals with elta of israel for the purchase of medium ranged radars,and also with a european shipbuilder for the purchase of fleet tankers for the indian navy.

here check out this link and article:

http://www.hindu.com/2006/12/12/stories/2006121202101400.htm

Boeing wants offset to be extended to civil aviation


Elta of Israel agrees to meet the conditions
U.S. firms do not want it to be limited to military side

NEW DELHI: The Defence Ministry is set to sign the first two offset agreements with foreign companies under the new defence procurement policy. The success with the first two cases of the new offset clause could make it difficult to accede to the American request to make changes in the offset clause, Ministry officials said.
Under the offset clause, all foreign vendors must compulsorily source one-third of the price of all defence equipment worth over Rs.300 crore from India.
The first test case for this clause is for the import of medium portable radars. The winner of the contract, Elta of Israel, has agreed to meet the conditions of the policy in letter. It will buy components worth one-third of the value of the contract from an Indian company. The runner up, the French company Thales, too was prepared to source one-thirds of the quoted price from India.
The second import contract, where the offset policy will be implemented, is for a fleet tanker for the Navy. Both foreign companies competing to supply the tanker have agreed to meet the "direct offset" clause.
On the other hand, the U.S. companies do not want offsets to be only `direct' in nature. They want offsets to be spread over an entire sector and not restricted to just the military side. Eyeing a multi-billion dollar contract for fighter aircraft, Boeing wants the offset to be extended to the civil aviation sector.
In other words, Indian companies supplying components to passenger aircraft should also be counted as offset for the fighter aircraft contract. In turn, Boeing promises to pass on expertise in the high-end and complex areas in the aerospace industry to Indian companies. At an India-U.S. defence meeting, India was told that the policy should also revise its "positive" inclination towards public sector companies for offset contracts.
On the other hand, analysts point to the relatively small size of the first two offset deals as compared to the fighter aircraft contract. For the radars, the final price was about Rs.900 crore of which about Rs.300 crore worth of components would be purchased from Indian companies. For the fleet tanker, the estimated price is Rs.400 crore. One-third of this value would be just Rs.130 crore. In comparison, the fighter aircraft deal is much bigger. Offsets would not be less than Rs.5,000 crore to Rs.7,000 crore of very high-tech equipment and systems integration work. Besides, Elta did not break new ground in sourcing from India. It was sourcing microwave tubes, the mainstay of radars, for long from the same Indian company. It has also placed orders for components from Larsen & Toubro.
 
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hey guys,interesting news here,indian navy has projected a requirement of 110000 crore rupees for the next five year plan.

here check out this link and article:

http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=7878


Rs 11,0000 cr is Navy's requirment for next five-year plan

MUMBAI, DEC 14 (PTI)
The navy has put forward a requirement of Rs 11,0000 crore for the next Five-Year Plan to equip itself to take on the challenges of the future, navy chief Admiral Sureesh Mehta said today.
"We are preparing the navy for any role in the future scenario. With an economic growth rate of over eight per cent, India has arrived and the world is looking at us with a difference," Admiral Mehta, on a three-day visit to the Western Fleet's headquarters here, told reporters.
Besides its military role, the navy has a diplomatic and policing role, he said, citing the ongoing light intensity maritime operations.
"The navy currently has 136 ships and building of 33 more ships is underway in our shipyards," he said. Six Scorpene submarines are being built at Mazagon dockyard here.
Aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya, formerly the Russian Navy's Admiral Gorshkov, will arrive in Mumbai in two years, and the large amphibious ship Trenton, acquired from the US, would be handed over to the navy next month, he said.
"This will bring about a marked increase in the navy's capabilities," Mehta said.
The navy is also focussing on indigenous technology. "Indigenous technology is available but big corporate and industrial houses are hesitant to step into this area," he said.
Mehta emphasised the need to have the capability to launch a nuclear second strike as "we are a no-first use nation".
"We do not have the (second strike) capability...But we are moving in that direction," he said.
Asked about the shortcomings of the navy, Mehta said, "We have not kept pace with maritime reconnaisance. We need assets. We have not kept pace with asset induction. We have some old planes and other equipment and we are managing with that.
"We are building our maritime domain awareness. We are thinking of satellite coverage of a large area," he added.
The navy has learnt to operate unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) with great ingenuity, Mehta said. "Instead of the usual range of 120 miles, our UAVs operate for 400 miles off the coast by passing control onto another platform."
In the next few years, the navy plans to induct rotary wing UAVs that would be of immense help, he added.
Asked about Union Home Minister Shivraj Patil's recent remarks about sea-borne threats to vital installations, Mehta said, "He may have said it now, but the navy has been preparing for such a role for a long time."
Replying to another query on reports about the navy planning to set up a base at Madagascar or Mauritius, Mehta said, "There are no such plans." Stating the need for having two aircraft carriers, the navy chief said the indigenous carrier being built at Cochin would be ready within 10 to 12 years. "Then we can have one carrier each on the western and eastern coasts," he said.
 
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hey guys,great news,indian coast guard is to acquire 8 new ships from usa ,including a pollution control vessel,all these vessels will be based at haldia ,where the indian coast guard plans to set up a world class base.

here check out this link and article:

http://www.hinduonnet.com/holnus/002200612141835.htm

The Coast Guard will soon acquire eight ships, including a pollution control vessel, from the US to strengthen its fleet, a top official said today.

One of the eight ships will be stationed in Haldia, where the hover port will soon be developed into a world-class facility under a Rs 8-crore project sanctioned by the Defence Ministry, said Coast Guard Inspector General (Eastern Region), Rajendra Singh.
The force recently set up stations at Puducherry and Kakinada that would help in rescue operations on the high seas and pollution control activities, Singh told reporters after inspecting a parade here. The new stations will also help in preventing outsiders from fishing in Indian waters and in rescuing Indian fishermen standed at sea by natural calamities, or mechanical faults in their ships, he said.
 
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hey guys ,sad news here,it seems that the refit of the admiral gorshkov has been delayed due to detection of some serious structural problems.

here check out this link and article:

http://www.dailyindia.com/show/93297.php/Refit-of-Indias-Russian-aircraft-carrier-delayed

The refit of the Indian Navy's Russian aircraft carrier INS Vikramaditya has 'dropped behind schedule due to extensive structural work', Britain's leading Jane's Defence Weekly (JDW) reports.

According to JDW, Viktor Shestov, deputy director of the Sevmashpredpriyatiye shipyard in Severodvinsk in northern Russia that is refurbishing the 44,500-tonne Kiev-class carrier, declared that the delay was 'linked to the fact that serious faults in some structures were revealed in the course of the final fault detection procedure'.

The Indian Navy, however, claimed it had received assurances from the Russian government that the conversion and commissioning would be completed on schedule in 2008, by which time India's only carrier INS Viraat will be ready for retirement.

INS Vikramaditya is scheduled to enter operational service in 2009 following its final refitting.

It will be berthed at INS Karwar, the navy's new base on the west coast that is still under construction.

Jane's stated that a high level Indian Navy inspection team that recently visited the Sevmashpredpriyatiye shipyard had received guarantees that the carrier would be completed on schedule.

The head of the visiting delegation, Vice Admiral B.S. Randhawa, Controller of Warship Production and Acquisition, asserted that the navy had received a letter from the Russian Federation Defence Minister Sergei Ivanov declaring that the project would be 'completed within the time frame set out in the contract'.

According to the contract for the carrier signed in January 2004, the retrofit was to be completed within 52 months.

Randhawa also declared that the Russian shipyard is 'taking every effort' to resolve any problems arising during the refit.

Damaged by a fire in 1994 soon after its commissioning, the Admiral Gorshkov had been rusting for years till the Indian Navy acquired it two years ago, signing a $625 million contract for its reactivation and modification programme.

This included reconfiguring the carrier, which was formally handed over to the navy in March 2004, for short take-off and arrested recovery aviation operations.

Russia's Nevskoye Planning and Design Bureau is responsible for developing the detailed design and drawings package for the implementation of the conversion, termed the Russian Federation Navy Project 1143.4. The Indian Navy's Naval Design Bureau is also working closely with the Russian shipyard.

Twenty MiG-29Ks, including four trainers, will constitute INS Vikramaditya's air arm.

Meanwhile, construction of the Indian Navy's 37,500-tonne Project 71 aircraft carrier, delayed by over two years, is expected to begin soon at the Cochin Shipyard Limited (CSL) using the 'modular' method of building compartment blocks.

'After building some 120 of 800 blocks using the integrated hull outfit and painting (IHOP) approach we will lay the carrier's keel in 2007. It will be launched by October 2010,' Rear Admiral M.K. Badhwar, the director general naval design who is in-charge of the carrier building programme, declared.

Re-designated the Indigenous Aircraft Carrier (IAC) from its original appellation of Air Defence Ship, the vessel's commissioning has been delayed by around two years to 2014 due to steel acquisition problems, Badhwar said.

This difficulty was recently resolved with the import from Russia of around 1,000 tonnes of steel 'bulb-bars' essential to begin the IAC's construction after the state-owned Steel Authority of India (SAIL) was unable to supply them.

The cutting of steel for the IAC designed by the Naval Design Bureau (NDB) began in April 2005, but the project languished thereafter due to the lack of bulb bars, navy officials admitted.

However, they were confident that SAIL and two private and another public sector steel mill who are collectively supplying around 20,000 tonnes of steel for the IAC, would be able to provide the additional 4,000 tonnes of bulb bars required for the 225 metre long and 58 metre wide IAC, for which Rs.32.61 billion ($730 million) has been sanctioned so far.

Powered by four General Electric LM 2500 gas turbines acquired through Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL), the IAC will operate a mix of 30 combat fighters and helicopters.

Navy officers said these would include 12 MiG-29K multi-role fighters, upgraded Sea Harrier FRS Mk 51s and the locally designed light combat aircraft. Its 10-helicopter compliment will comprise Russian Kamov Ka-31s and the indigenous advanced light helicopter.

Italy's Fincantieri SpA will provide designs to integrate the propulsion system, engine room layouts, and overall validation of systems, besides conducting sea trials. Navy officials said while Fincantieri's technical contract would be for two years, assistance will continue until the IAC's commissioning.
 
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hey guys,great news,ins vagli a foxtrot class of submarine has successfully completed diving trials after the completion of a medium refit,another submarine(most probably the upgraded kilo class) is to undergo a medium refit,these refits are to be carried out at the hindustan shipyards limited.

here check out this link and article:

http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItem...&Title=Southern+News+-+Andhra+Pradesh&Topic=0

Indian Navy’s Foxtrot class submarine INS Vagli completed diving trials after a medium refit at the Hindustan Shipyard Limited (HSL) here.

The submarine underwent a medium refit at HSL, which indicates the high standards of the HSL’s repair yard.

This event marks a major milestone in the HSL’s history as few commercial ship repair yards in the world can undertake refit of submarines.

Indian Navy has also placed orders for medium refit and modernisation of another submarine, which is an advanced version of a Russian submarine with sophisticated weapons and equipment.
 
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It just erks me the amount of loadout the Gorshkov's Migs will never carry due to the ski-jump. India needs to redesign it for catapults so they can carry a full load.
 
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Big-E said:
It just erks me the amount of loadout the Gorshkov's Migs will never carry due to the ski-jump. India needs to redesign it for catapults so they can carry a full load.
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Even with a 12° ski jump (btw is it "ski" or "sky" ??) the payload will still be inferior to that achievable with a catapult launch... but as on the Garibaldi and Cavour we can live with Harrier AV8B+ and in the future F35B mainly carrying AIM120C/D or Meteor, Harpoons or Marte Mk2S, and Storm Shadow standoff cruise missiles. We know we won't be able to have our jets take off with 6+ Paveways or a full load of JDAMs, but our main purpose is air defence in support of fleet or amphibious landings. Unfortunately we lack your resources ;)

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contedicavour said:
Even with a 12° ski jump (btw is it "ski" or "sky" ??) the payload will still be inferior to that achievable with a catapult launch... but as on the Garibaldi and Cavour we can live with Harrier AV8B+ and in the future F35B mainly carrying AIM120C/D or Meteor, Harpoons or Marte Mk2S, and Storm Shadow standoff cruise missiles. We know we won't be able to have our jets take off with 6+ Paveways or a full load of JDAMs, but our main purpose is air defence in support of fleet or amphibious landings. Unfortunately we lack your resources ;)

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Well you don't go skying... so it must be ski.:rolleyes:

I know Italians only want amphib aircraft... I'm talking about Gorshkov. I was hoping the Mig-29s would be able to conduct a full range of missions rather than the typical Soviet sea-denial strategy were you never leave sight of land.
 
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Well you don't go skying... so it must be ski.:rolleyes:

I know Italians only want amphib aircraft... I'm talking about Gorshkov. I was hoping the Mig-29s would be able to conduct a full range of missions rather than the typical Soviet sea-denial strategy were you never leave sight of land.
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Ah-ha, I was also voting for "ski jump" but I though the other "sky jump" version had something to do with jumping towards the sky ;)

India has no adversary for task force against task force big naval battles ... which by the way only the USN can still run. So providing appropriate fleet air defence, plus some anti-shipping and amphib support is probably all that India needs.

For us in Italy most operations are close to shore, in the Med or in the Red Sea or Gulf of Oman and Persian Gulf. So most of the time our AV8B+ practice for air-to-air operations against shore-based fighters. They did work well though in air-to-ground operations with LGBs in Bosnia, Kosovo, and most recently in Afghanistan.

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