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Singapore to acquire Leopard 2A4s
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weasel1962
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Ummm actually the Australian Army operates the M1...
FutureTank
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SINGAPORE - Total Area 699 km² 270 sq mi
Wildflecken Training Area - 15,000 acres in Bavaria alone
1 United States survey acre is equal to:
4046.87261 square metres or 4km2
Singapore would be a definite 'squeeze' for Rommel's concepts
And they recieved a darn good deal on them to.
Agree... I thought they based their concepts on Israeli doctrine.SINGAPORE - Total Area 699 km² 270 sq mi
Wildflecken Training Area - 15,000 acres in Bavaria alone
1 United States survey acre is equal to:
4046.87261 square metres or 4km2
Singapore would be a definite 'squeeze' for Rommel's concepts
FutureTank
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Yes, and I was surprised to be told that Singapore sees itself as 'Israel' of Asia!!!
Israel was very strongly involved in the setting up of the SDF. They are still involved across some projects.
They've been involved since the establishment of the Republic
Merkava's in SAF
I have heard it on the grape vine ( myself a member of SAF) that the SAF has Merkava's also, I don't know how thrue this is, but I am quite sure about it, as it is the talk of the town so to speak, with the engine being in front, no merkava crew men was ever KIA, airconditioning, space for the AI, the main gun is huuuge compared to our SM1's, etc... etc....
PS: message to ISD ( spore's internal police ), its very difficult to keep secrets in a consript army.
I have heard it on the grape vine ( myself a member of SAF) that the SAF has Merkava's also, I don't know how thrue this is, but I am quite sure about it, as it is the talk of the town so to speak, with the engine being in front, no merkava crew men was ever KIA, airconditioning, space for the AI, the main gun is huuuge compared to our SM1's, etc... etc....
PS: message to ISD ( spore's internal police ), its very difficult to keep secrets in a consript army.
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The Merk story is something I have heard a hint of. But like any other tale, maybe best taken with a pinch of salt.
But you can never rule anything out.
But you can never rule anything out.
FutureTank
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Why would SAF acquire Leopards if they could get Merkavah for same price? Not much difference tactically speaking
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Good point. Unless Singapore plans to use them as fixed guns against potential amphibious invasions (a bit like the British tried to do in WW2 in Singapore... with the advantage though that you can turn around and shoot 360°
)Seriously, Singapore doesn't need such heavy MBTs to protect its small island. Though it could make good use of them in overseas peacekeeping/enforcing missions. Given the excellent training and equipment of the SAF, they should help more in peacekeeping !
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knightrider4
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I think a lot of people here underestimate the effectiveness of heavy armour in Jungle terrain. Australia used tanks with great success in Vietnam in supporting infantry and Singapore would be equally as effective.
I think a lot of people here underestimate the effectiveness of heavy armour in Jungle terrain. Australia used tanks with great success in Vietnam in supporting infantry and Singapore would be equally as effective.
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And taking this as a lovely drop zone for airborn enemies I would also like to have some heavy armor supported by Bionixs to break through them.
Shock tactics with fast advancing tank units are nice against fresh dropped troops.
About fuel consumption.
The real consumption of the Leo IIA4 is more about 5 Liters per km and rising when having to do with really heavy terrain.
I really don't believe this. Heavy armor assets just cannot be held as such a secret and then suddenly pop up during war.
BTW, there are enough Merkava crews being KIA. R.I.P.
Shock tactics with fast advancing tank units are nice against fresh dropped troops.
About fuel consumption.
The real consumption of the Leo IIA4 is more about 5 Liters per km and rising when having to do with really heavy terrain.
Do I understand this right that there rumors about Merkavas existing in the SAF?
I really don't believe this. Heavy armor assets just cannot be held as such a secret and then suddenly pop up during war.
BTW, there are enough Merkava crews being KIA. R.I.P.
I don't think Singapore has any intention of fighting on its own territory if it's at all possible to avoid. I believe they would expect to be fighting to defend Singapore in Malaysia, probably assisting the Malaysian armed forces. Or in Indonesia. Fighting in the the streets of Singapore itself would imply that the heavy armour had already been lost.Good point. Unless Singapore plans to use them as fixed guns against potential amphibious invasions (a bit like the British tried to do in WW2 in Singapore... with the advantage though that you can turn around and shoot 360°
Seriously, Singapore doesn't need such heavy MBTs to protect its small island. Though it could make good use of them in overseas peacekeeping/enforcing missions. Given the excellent training and equipment of the SAF, they should help more in peacekeeping !
cheers