New South Korean LPH/carrier

swerve

Super Moderator
The draw back on those JMSDF ships is that they have no hangars. Why? So other can't call them aircraft carriers. But things are changing.

It is wise for S. Korea to build the LPX type ship. Because the JMSDF will in about two years time have an LPH...
You don't build ship type A because a neighbour is building ship type A. That's just dick-waving. You build it because you have a use for it. An LPD is for amphibious operations. It doesn't fight LPHs.

Also, the 16DDH isn't an LPH. It lacks facilities for carrying troops, vehicles, etc., isn't equipped to load & unload vehicles, can't carry any landing craft, or even Mexeflotes, & doesn't have the access ways for fast disembarkation of troops. It has fine lines & big engines, which reduce internal space (amphibious ships are carefully designed to maximise internal space). In other words, it isn't equipped for amphibious warfare.

But it is equipped to lead an open ocean antisubmarine flotilla, especially when one considers that Japan has some frigates & destroyers with helicopter landing pads but no hangars. 16DDH has a command suite, & hangarage & support facilities for several helicopters. It's fast: it can keep up with destroyers & frigates. It could support sustained helicopter operations in the open ocean from a few smaller ships which without it would only be able to support helicopters for short periods, or with shore support. It has sufficient missiles to put up a decent defence against air attack (with a Kongou along, a bloody good defence). The name is wrong: it's really a helicopter cruiser, or helicopter carrier, not a "destroyer". But it is primarily an ASW ship, & designed to complement existing JMSDF ASW ships & enhance their capabilities.
 

bd popeye

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You don't build ship type A because a neighbour is building ship type A. That's just dick-waving. You build it because you have a use for it. An LPD is for amphibious operations. It doesn't fight LPHs.
But..the dick waving or penis contest is going on. Unfortunatley..

I do know what an LPD and LPH are designed for thank you.:) Never said they were menat to fight each other.

What you posted is certianly true enough about the JMSDF DDH16. It's just a very fast helo carrier. Capable of steaming with the fastest large warships...It certianly could work in unison with the JMSDF Osumi class to form a formidable team in an amphipous operation or humanitarian relief effort.

As far is the name of the type ship is concerned>> I think the JMSDF misnames the ships to try to fool the politicans in the Japanese diet(legisature) into believing the ships are something they are not.
 

swerve

Super Moderator
But..the dick waving or penis contest is going on. Unfortunatley..
True . . . :(

What you posted is certianly true enough about the JMSDF DDH16. It's just a very fast helo carrier. Capable of steaming with the fastest large warships...It certianly could work in unison with the JMSDF Osumi class to form a formidable team in an amphipous operation or humanitarian relief effort.
Also true :)

As far is the name of the type ship is concerned>> I think the JMSDF misnames the ships to try to fool the politicans in the Japanese diet(legisature) into believing the ships are something they are not.
Agreed
 
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