Depends on what you want it for. If you want endurance & altitude, an MQ-9B would be preferable. Put a half-decent radar aboard & I think you could have some rather useful AEW.
UAS developments and/or issues
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John Fedup
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In the RN’s case, both would be useful, funds permitting of course.
Sandhi Yudha
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A new Polish anti-UAV system from Zaklady Mechaniczne Tarnów S.A. The core pf the system is a four-barrel 12,7 mm gatling gun. I don't lnow the origin of it, but it can be a copy of the Yakushev-Borzov YakB-12,7 mm used in the Mi-24.
Anyway, this system is absolutely more than enough to take down every UAV/camera drone up to 2000 m.
Anyway, this system is absolutely more than enough to take down every UAV/camera drone up to 2000 m.
Sandhi Yudha
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Now also African countries, including the smaller ones with a very small defence budget, can get advanced UCAVs.
Djibouti has revealed itself to be an operator of the Baykar Bayraktar TB2, parading two of the Turkish-built unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV) at its independence day celebrations on 27 June, one aircraft carried two underwing Roketsan MAM-L smart micro munitions, while the second was unarmed.
www.janes.com
Djibouti has revealed itself to be an operator of the Baykar Bayraktar TB2, parading two of the Turkish-built unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV) at its independence day celebrations on 27 June, one aircraft carried two underwing Roketsan MAM-L smart micro munitions, while the second was unarmed.
Djibouti parades Bayraktar UCAVs
Djibouti has revealed itself to be an operator of the Baykar Bayraktar TB2, parading the Turkish-built unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV) at its independence day...
www.janes.com
Yes the Bayraktar is turning out to be a very effective weapons system. Just ask the Russians.Now also African countries, including the smaller ones with a very small defence budget, can get advanced UCAVs.
Djibouti has revealed itself to be an operator of the Baykar Bayraktar TB2, parading two of the Turkish-built unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV) at its independence day celebrations on 27 June, one aircraft carried two underwing Roketsan MAM-L smart micro munitions, while the second was unarmed.
Djibouti parades Bayraktar UCAVs
Djibouti has revealed itself to be an operator of the Baykar Bayraktar TB2, parading the Turkish-built unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV) at its independence day...
Big_Zucchini
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الجريدة. تكشف عن صاروخ إيراني جديد بعيد المدى
علمت «الجريدة»، من مصدر رفيع المستوى، أن إيران انتهت من صناعة صاروخ موجه من طراز «كروز» بعيد المدى، وأنه أصبح بالفعل جاهزاً للعمليات، مبيناً أن هذا الصاروخ يشبه المسيرة الإيرانية «شاهد 136 »، غير...
www.aljarida.com
Al Jarida (I don't know how reliable it is) reports about a jet engine derivative of the Shahed-136, which itself resembles the Israeli IAI Harop.
Seems to be using the same launcher as the Shahed-136 as well, which indicates a swarm attack design. Reported range is 2,000km for the Shahed-136, and this one is said to be even longer.
I don't understand much about engines and aviation so can anyone tell me how is a 2,000km range achievable? Is it some sort of regular switching between boost and glide?
The Bayraktar drone is is stated as operating in day and night ,do U.A.V,s of this type have the infra red sensors for detection of material and personnel at night? and would the targets of such technology be more susceptible at night in the open than during the day where the use of camouflage may disguise the presence of targets?
Infrared (IR) works by detecting / measuring differences in heat and is very accurate. It has to do with heat energy emitted in the infrared waveband of the electromagnetic spectrum. On the planetary surface it is more effective at night because because the background temperature is cooler than during the day especially in rural areas. Urban areas retain heat more during the night because of the materials used in their construction, these being concrete and asphalt which retain a lot of heat. In cities this creates a climatic effect known as an Urban Heat Island (UHI) where air temperatures within a city centre can be 3°C - 5°C higher than the surrounding rural area. Some UHI in cities like Atlanta, Georgia in the US and Shanghai in the PRC can create their own weather. Normal camouflage techniques generally don't counter IR so some form of thermal (heat) shielding has to be used in order to fool the IR sensors. This can be and is done.
Sandhi Yudha
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Thai firm Aero Technology Industry Company Limited (ATIL) unveiled the DP-20/A medium-altitude long-endurance (MALE) unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) on 29 August at the opening day of the Defense & Security 2022 show in Bangkok.
According to ATIL the development of the UAV is complete and flight trials for achieving airworthiness certification are under way and that the local industry has manufactured 80% of the DP-20/A and its systems.
This is really impressive, and ill be not surprised if the DP-20/A will have its first flight before the Elang Hitam.
www.janes.com
According to ATIL the development of the UAV is complete and flight trials for achieving airworthiness certification are under way and that the local industry has manufactured 80% of the DP-20/A and its systems.
This is really impressive, and ill be not surprised if the DP-20/A will have its first flight before the Elang Hitam.
Defense & Security 2022: ATIL unveils DP-20/A MALE UAS
Thai firm Aero Technology Industry Company Limited (ATIL) unveiled the DP-20/A medium-altitude long-endurance (MALE) unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV) on 29 August at the...
www.janes.com
Sandhi Yudha
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India's acquisition of 30 MQ-9Bs (likely 10 for each branch of the armed forces) has a proposed price of USD3 billion in what is a government-to-government deal.
If India's plan becomes reality, it will directly becomes the largest MQ-9B customer ever.
If India's plan becomes reality, it will directly becomes the largest MQ-9B customer ever.
India still in talks over MQ-9B acquisition
India's potential acquisition of the General Atomics Aeronautical Systems Inc (GA-ASI) MQ-9B SeaGuardian/SkyGuardian has been at a high level of discussion since at...
www.janes.com
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
Certainly will be interesting to see “if “ this happens and “when”. Indian military procurement, like Canadian procurement, isn’t known for rapidity. I am sure GA is hoping it happens.
Big_Zucchini
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And there's the ever present fear India will just cancel the contract halfway in to try a local project instead.
You could run a betting book on that with pretty good odds.
Sandhi Yudha
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Interesting development, i actually didn't even know about the existence of the AR-500B unmanned mini-helicopter.
The AR-500B carrier-based unmanned helicopter made its maiden flight on 27 November 2020, so it is a brandnew product.
More detailed information about the AR-500B unmanned aerial vehicle.
www.china-arms.com
The AR-500B carrier-based unmanned helicopter made its maiden flight on 27 November 2020, so it is a brandnew product.
More detailed information about the AR-500B unmanned aerial vehicle.
China’s AR-500B shipborne unmanned helicopter made its first flight
According to China Aviation News, China's AR-500B carrier-based unmanned helicopter made its maiden flight on November 27 at the Poyang test flight base, and analysts believe that the successful development of this model fills a gap in the field of small and light shipborne unmanned helicopters...
www.china-arms.com
Ananda
The Bunker Group
Bayraktar TB2 drones were hailed as Ukraine's savior and the future of warfare. A year later, they've practically disappeared.
Ukraine's killer TB2 drones initially caused havoc on the battlefield but are now largely reduced to reconnaissance duties, an expert said.
www.businessinsider.com
Decide to post in here, even though it is talk about Turkish TB2 performance under Ukrainian Force, however I believe the topic is more appropriate in this thread.
The war in Ukraine perhaps shown some 'hip' on Drones in Today's War, however despite business insiders using a western thus pro Ukrainian source, it is also shown one thing. Drones is not a big game changer as being thought a year ago when the war start.
Electronic Warfare is still the dominant factor in modern drones war. Facing opponent that able to adjust on Electronic Warfare effectively (as Russian did), then the drones effectiveness decrease significantly.
Sandhi Yudha
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This is also in big contrast with the "First UAV-war" during the conflict between Armenia and Azerbaijan, Armenia did not have decent countermeasures against Azerbaijan's new equipment.
Bayraktar TB2 drones were hailed as Ukraine's savior and the future of warfare. A year later, they've practically disappeared.
Ukraine's killer TB2 drones initially caused havoc on the battlefield but are now largely reduced to reconnaissance duties, an expert said.
Decide to post in here, even though it is talk about Turkish TB2 performance under Ukrainian Force, however I believe the topic is more appropriate in this thread.
The war in Ukraine perhaps shown some 'hip' on Drones in Today's War, however despite business insiders using a western thus pro Ukrainian source, it is also shown one thing. Drones is not a big game changer as being thought a year ago when the war start.
Electronic Warfare is still the dominant factor in modern drones war. Facing opponent that able to adjust on Electronic Warfare effectively (as Russian did), then the drones effectiveness decrease significantly.
Ananda
The Bunker Group
Ukraine is losing 10,000 drones a month to Russian electronic-warfare systems that send fake signals and screw with their navigation, researchers say
Sophisticated electronic-warfare systems are contributing to the loss of about 300 Ukrainian drones a day, a new RUSI report found.
www.businessinsider.com
Another business insiders article that elaborate RUSI findings on effectiveness on sophisticated EW set that Russia build to handle Ukrainian drones swarm. Again I don't put it in Ukrainian-Russian thread, cause this is more to shown the 'hip' on drones warfare is really can be handle by proper EW defense and off course followed by effective Air Defense support.
Ananda
The Bunker Group
No they don't specify on the type of UAV. However seems RUSI emphasis more on the need to build strong EW first as the current anti air systems is not enough.
The way I read it, basically RUSI point out on the need for EW grid that focus as barrier first. Ironically with Russia focusing their EW on Ukraine's fronts, perhaps they left gap on their other borders (which perhaps) shown how Ukrainian able to use those gaps on other border area.
Point is from RUSI report seems emphasis on the need to invest on EW grids.
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Sandhi Yudha
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A new UCAV has been presented at Le Bourget Airshow.
The Aarok is a medium-altitude, long-endurance (MALE) combat drone, designed and made in France by Turgis & Gaillard and has a slightly larger wingspan than the MQ-9 Reaper. It seems to be capable to be armed with the SAGEM AASM.
www.defensenews.com
The Aarok is a medium-altitude, long-endurance (MALE) combat drone, designed and made in France by Turgis & Gaillard and has a slightly larger wingspan than the MQ-9 Reaper. It seems to be capable to be armed with the SAGEM AASM.
Reveal of French-made combat drone stirs up industry
The Aarok is a medium-altitude, long-endurance (MALE) combat drone, designed and made in France by Turgis & Gaillard.
www.defensenews.com