UAS developments and/or issues

Ananda

The Bunker Group
Caught on camera in the skies of the Philippines. It can be a RQ-180, it can also be something else.
I'm more inclined to also look on potential Chinese ones. It's in their back yard and showing off their potential stealth UAS in the area where Quad just doing exercises is giving more massage on their ISTAR capabilities.
 

swerve

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Not sure whether it's ultra safe or the EU is just over-bureaucratic.
Anyway, with a drone that large, I can't really see an armed version being of particular use.
As an oversized platform it is better used carrying dedicated payload rather than munitions, to increase its endurance.
At its weight class the only weapons that are viable are long range munitions.

Europe needs new MALE drones and to make them cheap. Heavy HALE is too much of a niche, albeit an important one.
Leonardo has been trying to interest European armed forces in its range of drones for years, but so far its exports have all been outside Europe, AFAIK.
 

Sandhi Yudha

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Turkmenistan unveiled for the first time its Bayraktar TB2 UCAVs during the 27 September military parade. Besides TB2 UCAVs, a range of new military equipment was on exhibit during the parade, including Brazilian A-29 Super Tucano attack aircraft, Italian C-27J Spartan transport planes and M-346 light fighters and fighter trainers.

 

cdxbow

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This is an interesting combination, a small flying drone that walks (like it's in high heels!). It's not military and is only a prototype but I wonder if this 'design paradigm' may be a goer long term - the agility/access of a UAV with the persistence of a walker. Creepy New Drone That Walks and Flies Is a Robopocalypse Nightmare Come True (gizmodo.com.au)

I'm expecting the RAAF to pay attention to this and in the near future expect the 'Loyal Wingman' to stride out of the hangar....
 

Sandhi Yudha

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So the Mojave is in fact a Gray Eagle fuselage with enlarged wings with high-lift devices and a Rolls Royce 450-horsepower turboprop engine. The UAS is based on the avionics and flight control systems of the MQ-9 Reaper and the MQ-1C Gray Eagle-Extended Range, but the official MQ-designation has not been given yet.
 

FormerDirtDart

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So the Mojave is in fact a Gray Eagle fuselage with enlarged wings with high-lift devices and a Rolls Royce 450-horsepower turboprop engine. The UAS is based on the avionics and flight control systems of the MQ-9 Reaper and the MQ-1C Gray Eagle-Extended Range, but the official MQ-designation has not been given yet.
It looks like the offspring of an OV-10 and a MQ-9 (stole that)
 

Sandhi Yudha

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|"The Orion was shown taking off with a missile tube under each wing and tracking the rotary wing target before engaging it with a missile that appears to be a variant of the 9M113 Kornet anti-tank guided missile family. The engagement reportedly took place at a range of 4 km."|

This is not only a new development for the Russian aerospace industry, but if im now wrong this can be the first time that a UAV uses a modified anti-tank missile to take down air targets.

 

STURM

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but if im now wrong this can be the first time that a UAV uses a modified anti-tank missile to take down air targets.
Indeed and it's a shape of things to come. In the future we'll probably be seeing UASs carrying torps for ASW and even purpose built AAMs for the air to air role.
 

Sandhi Yudha

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Baykar revealed the latest photos of MIUS (Muharip Insansiz Ucak Sistemi – Unmanned Combat Aircraft System), Turkey's future unmanned jet fighter aircraft, on the final assembly line.

Projects like this shows us that jetfighters and UCAVs are growing to each other.

 

Sandhi Yudha

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Russian forces in Ukraine have been seen fielding the Forpost-R unmanned combat aerial vehicle (UCAV) for the first time. The Forpost-R is an improved and indigenised model variant of the Forpost (Outpost), which is the Israeli Searcher Mk II UAV assembled by the Yekaterinburg-based Ural Civil Aviation Plant (Ural‘skiy Zavod Grazhdanskoy Aviatsii: UZGA) since 2011 under licence. Compared to the normal Forpost, the Forpost-R has a reinforced fuselage and it can be armed.


 

cdxbow

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This Ukrainian poster talks about the use of the R18 quadcopter Update from Ukraine | DIY Drone R18 Bombs ruzzian soldiers everywhere - YouTube The drones are produced in the Ukraine at a cost about $10-20,000 dollars putting them in the industrial quadcopter sector. They have a range of 4-5km and can use Mr Musks Starlink for coms. This article talks a bit more about the drones, but also the about the unit that operates them Ukraine: Inside the Elite Drone Unit Founded by Volunteer IT Experts (businessinsider.com) These relatively cheap drones pose a real challenge (and an opportunity) for armed forces.
 

Ananda

The Bunker Group

Not military ones, but this video shown China advancement on AI Algorithm for Autonomous swarm drones. Imagine this kind of suicide swarm drones, lies dormant waiting in the bushes, woods, jungles, waiting for adversaries coloum coming toward the trap.
 

John Fedup

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Not military ones, but this video shown China advancement on AI Algorithm for Autonomous swarm drones. Imagine this kind of suicide swarm drones, lies dormant waiting in the bushes, woods, jungles, waiting for adversaries coloum coming toward the trap.
If this is real then it represents a very unfriendly environment for soldiers unless very effective counter measures are developed or the opposing force has similar technology. It would be interesting to know the relative development level between the US and China wrt to this technology. There are of course other countries that very likely are investing in this technology as well.
 

Sandhi Yudha

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General Atomics claims that the design is capable of operating from the U.S Navy’s LHA and LHD ships and also from the Royal Australian Navy’s Canberra-class LHDs.

The MQ-9B STOL can operate from amphibious assault ships without the need for a ski jump or catapult. The new design features folding wings optimised for short takeoff and landing (STOL), as well as an enlarged v-tail. General Atomics doesnt explain how the MQ-9B STOL will land on the ships, but it can certainly be a practical and cost effective solution for all countries with an LHD.

 

John Fedup

The Bunker Group
General Atomics claims that the design is capable of operating from the U.S Navy’s LHA and LHD ships and also from the Royal Australian Navy’s Canberra-class LHDs.

The MQ-9B STOL can operate from amphibious assault ships without the need for a ski jump or catapult. The new design features folding wings optimised for short takeoff and landing (STOL), as well as an enlarged v-tail. General Atomics doesnt explain how the MQ-9B STOL will land on the ships, but it can certainly be a practical and cost effective solution for all countries with an LHD.

Probably a reasonable option for navies with LHDs. However, as mentioned in another thread, the V-247 vtol might be a more attractive option. Although it doesn’t have as much endurance as the GA drone, it will not require disruption of the entire deck area for operation. Better still, it can land on other ships that can can accommodate helicopters. Not sure about the price differential.
 

FormerDirtDart

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Probably a reasonable option for navies with LHDs. However, as mentioned in another thread, the V-247 vtol might be a more attractive option. Although it doesn’t have as much endurance as the GA drone, it will not require disruption of the entire deck area for operation. Better still, it can land on other ships that can can accommodate helicopters. Not sure about the price differential.
I doubt the MQ-9B STOL would cause any more disruption of the entire flight deck than F-35B launches.
Also, found a tweet with the video the NavalNews artocle posted screen grabs of.
 
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