I don't know about you but there looks like plenty of room between rear ramp and sharp spinny thingy
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On the serious side, I don't take it for granted. I remember when in the RNZAF watching a safety film and it showed a US soldier in Nam exit an Iroquois, turn hard left and run straight into the tail rotor. His helmet didn't do him any good.
I’m guessing that the main reason for choosing this radar is because of ease of integration with Saab 9LV CMS as it’s been selected by Saab.
If they needed a secondary set, purely for redundancy, I’m sure any number of excellent commercial X and S band sets could be used without the need for integration.
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I can’t tell if you’re being serious or not
It is a good radar. Its, or variations of it is fitted to many navy ships. The Iver Huitfeldt class, for example have them fitted. Its also on the UK Type 26 and the French Aircraft carrier CdG. (New Generation of Terma Radar Selected for Charles de Gaulle) Which is saying something because the french would normally choose something french.
I wouldn't be surprised if it end up on the Australian sea5000 ships. For a OPV, it would be at the higher end. It's selection seems to indicate the patrol ships continue to get a quality spec. Making the most of commonality between ships.
Just a shame there isn't a proper hanger to enable more regular embarking of larger manned aviation assets. Grumble Grumble.
But the more I hear about what is being spec'd the more I am impressed.
Redlands18
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Allied with the SAAB 9LV CMS at least the OPVs should have a decent Situational Awareness.
Thanks for the Pic
The first I've seen utilising all Six spots on the flight deck.
Things are taking shape.
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I think the future is unmanned vehicles anyway. The OPVs may well evolve into OCVs as the navy continues to acquire UAVs and UUVs. A lot of these systems will be platform agnostic so I imagine it would almost be as easy as dropping a container onto the flight deck. In fact when you look at the Fassmer and Lurssen designs side by side it looks like the Lurrsen has quite a bit more available flight deck space.
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An article to show the capability, utility and the importance of RAN's LHD at this year's RIMPAC!
An article to show the capability, utility and the importance of RAN's LHD at this year's RIMPAC!
Redlands18
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A modified 6m ISO Container with some insulation, Reverse Cycle AC and built in Storage for spare parts and Tools would probably do the trick for a S-100.
Canberra actually had 7 helos on her flight deck during the SEA Series exercises earlier this year (2 CH-47F, 4 army and 1 navy MRH-90). I believe this may be a record for the Aussie LHDs so far. It is pleasing to see Canberra, Adelaide and 2 RAR developing what is becoming a very good amphibious capability.
I agree with the comments by many others in this and the Australian Army thread that the ADF could definitely do with more helicopters for both land and sea based operations. It looks like the LHDs have now moved from crawl to walk but to get to the run stage where their full potential is reached they will need, IMO, to operate larger numbers of helicopters on a more regular basis. Whilst their primary role is to support the army for amphibious operations (and HADR to keep the media and pollies happy) I am certain we will eventually see the RAN exploit their potential in other areas like ASW. Of course this would mean that more MH-60Rs and/or future unmanned assets would need to be acquired.
The attached image of Canberra during Sea Explorer 2018 is from the Australian Government Defence Image Library:
https://images.defence.gov.au/assets/archives/5003-All Defence Imagery/DefenceImagery/2018/S20181211/20180602USAF00000_001.jpg.info
Tas
Apologies for including the same image posted earlier by Assail (couldn't track it down when I was posting though I was certain I'd seen it recently!)... Senior moment!
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That is essentially how the system is contained and operated, very mobile indeed
CAMCOPTER® S-100 System - Schiebel
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Its higher res.
I can see 7 helicopters includes 2 chinooks.
Would love to see the ARG/Surge with two LHD's with 5 NH90's 2 chooks each..
I was thinking a hanger and deck chairs. No reason why you can't do your job in style. Maybe even a UAV control room with panoramic bubble..
But
Redlands18
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Imagine sitting in that on the back of a OPV or in the middle of the Outback on a 40 degree day without Aircon.
Haha would be fun, especially with the Gov furnished ergonomic chairs, add in a little cross swell roll and you are in business
Link to a lovely little video of HMAS Adelaide operating USMC helicopters at RIMPAC alongside her embarked MRH-90s.
HMAS Adelaide Air Operations during RIMPAC - Defence Video Portal
A good test for her deck handling parties and especially her RAAF air traffic control personnel.
Tas
HMAS Adelaide Air Operations during RIMPAC - Defence Video Portal
A good test for her deck handling parties and especially her RAAF air traffic control personnel.
Tas
Ah huh, been a fan of the Sierra for a long time and believe it would be a very good fit for the ADF. Commonality with the in service Romeo, including fully marinisased, designed from the start for CSAR and special forces support missions, it even uses the same weapons as the Romeo and Tiger.
t68
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That would depend on the actual dimensions of the aircraft and how many spots are unavailable on the LHD, along with price and reliability
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