John Fedup
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That's a stretch. Unlike Kim Jong Un, Trump can be constrained by the US constitution and rational people within the US government. WRT to NK only, an eventual war may be necessary.
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AFAIK the US President can initiate armed conflict on his own authority without consulting Congress. So the Orange One has it within his power to start a war in everything but name if it suits him. Eventually Congress will have to decide whether to make an official declaration and fund it but that's another matter.
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hopefully one of the US mods can chime in as they are better versed in constitutional constraints for POTUS
but I also believe that he can field forces without congressional input for something like a 100 days (??)
Something like that... more than enough time to make a mess of things.
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worth the read - lets hope the machinery works
What One Joint Chief Of Staff Thinks of Trump - Defense One
What One Joint Chief Of Staff Thinks of Trump - Defense One
The US War Powers Act(1973) specifically designates the authority of the US Pres and congress when it comes to combat operations. It was a result of the post Vietnam War days and done to limit the power of the President to commit to military action without the consent of congress
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_Powers_Resolution
Per request.
The relevant section of US law is known as the War Powers Resolution or sometimes the War Powers Act, Title 50 United States Code Chapter 33, 1541-1548.
In brief, the POTUS can deploy troops abroad, but with a few caveats.
Within 60 days of earlier of action commencing or submission to the Speaker of the House and President pro tempore of the Senate, the action must either be terminated, approved by Congress (either via a declaration of war or other approval permitted by statute), or the President must certify an extension of 30 days is needed. No more than a single extension may be done without requiring Congressional approval (max 90 day duration).
In theory, this act permits the POTUS as CINC to action in response to a declaration of war or national emergency created by an attack, or other statutory authorization. It does not (yet, at least...) permit the POTUS to initiate hostilities with a foreign nation.
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FormerDirtDart
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I would question if the War Powers Resolution would even pertain to a conflict with North Korea.
Technically, and likely legally, the US is still involved in the the Korean Conflict with North Korea. The Korean Armistice Agreement merely established a longstanding ceasefire between the belligerents.
And, the North Koreans have publicly withdrawn from the armistice at least a half dozen times in the last few decades.No peace treaty has ever been agreed to.
Additionally, the current policy of the US government is that no peace treaty negotiations can even be conducted until North Korea has begun dismantling their nuclear weapons program.
Technically, and likely legally, the US is still involved in the the Korean Conflict with North Korea. The Korean Armistice Agreement merely established a longstanding ceasefire between the belligerents.
And, the North Koreans have publicly withdrawn from the armistice at least a half dozen times in the last few decades.No peace treaty has ever been agreed to.
Additionally, the current policy of the US government is that no peace treaty negotiations can even be conducted until North Korea has begun dismantling their nuclear weapons program.
Todjaeger
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There was no formal declaration of war by Congress during Korea. In fact, there has not been a formal declaration of War by the US since WWII.
During Korea there was the UN Security Council Resolution 84 which received appropriations funding from the US Congress. Now if breaking the Armistice would reactivate the resolution, then a declaration of War or use of 50 U.S.C. 1541–1548 would not be needed.
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from the Cipher Brief
"THERE GOES THE JUDGE: Turns out allegations that the British GCHQ had done the dirty work for the Obama administration in electronically surveilling the Trump campaign came to Fox News from Judge Andrew Napolitano. The Judge, whose story changed from “might have happened” to “definitely happened,” apparently was relying on three anonymous sources who Fox did not find compelling. So as of Monday, Judge Napolitano emulated Judge Crater and disappeared (well, at least from Fox News at the moment). The LA Times reports that the Judge is not expected back on the air in the near future. Meanwhile, outgoing NSA Deputy Director Richard Ledgett told BBC that the claim that NSA asked GCHQ to snoop on the Trump campaign was “arrant nonsense.” No further word from the White House – which may still be looking up “arrant.” Ledgett added that asking the Brits to conduct such an illegal act would be “epically stupid.”
"THERE GOES THE JUDGE: Turns out allegations that the British GCHQ had done the dirty work for the Obama administration in electronically surveilling the Trump campaign came to Fox News from Judge Andrew Napolitano. The Judge, whose story changed from “might have happened” to “definitely happened,” apparently was relying on three anonymous sources who Fox did not find compelling. So as of Monday, Judge Napolitano emulated Judge Crater and disappeared (well, at least from Fox News at the moment). The LA Times reports that the Judge is not expected back on the air in the near future. Meanwhile, outgoing NSA Deputy Director Richard Ledgett told BBC that the claim that NSA asked GCHQ to snoop on the Trump campaign was “arrant nonsense.” No further word from the White House – which may still be looking up “arrant.” Ledgett added that asking the Brits to conduct such an illegal act would be “epically stupid.”
Todjaeger
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Similarly, Adm. Rogers stated to the House Intelligence committee that there was no evidence of such action, or of any request to do so. He additionally commented that doing so would violate the 5I's agreements.
cdxbow
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Mr Trump allegedly gave Mrs Merkel an invoice for 300 billion dollars to cover the cost of NATO -. http://www.news.com.au/finance/work...r/news-story/3cc386c9b69897dfae0321f2336a4c1b
I always thought L. Ron Hubbard was the greatest conman ever, to turn bad science fiction into a lucrative, and at one time tax free, religion was a truly brilliant scam, but it now pales into comparison to Mr Trump massive achievements.
I always thought L. Ron Hubbard was the greatest conman ever, to turn bad science fiction into a lucrative, and at one time tax free, religion was a truly brilliant scam, but it now pales into comparison to Mr Trump massive achievements.
John Fedup
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I am not a fan of the Donald but some of the quotes, especially that contain the word "allegedly", just give his Brightbard minions something to rant on. Everyone should switch to ignore mode and see what happens.
Can Australia send Trump a bill for the trade imbalance? By his standards the US is giving Australia a worse deal then Mexico gives the US.
1985 through to 2016 it was roughly $270b USD in the US favor.. add in some interest over that time and we will take his $490b bill from Germany
1985 through to 2016 it was roughly $270b USD in the US favor.. add in some interest over that time and we will take his $490b bill from Germany
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sig harvesting opportunity (both sides)
China Base Sparks ‘Very Significant Security Concerns’ « Breaking Defense - Defense industry news, analysis and commentary
(both sides)China Base Sparks ‘Very Significant Security Concerns’ « Breaking Defense - Defense industry news, analysis and commentary
Trump just imposed his reality... Climate Change is no longer considered a threat to national security. Mattis should be getting the memo soon.
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will be interesting as Mattis has made direct reference to impact of climate change driven threats in a number of presentationsTrump just imposed his reality... Climate Change is no longer considered a threat to national security. Mattis should be getting the memo soon.
what a circus
It will be interesting to see if this gets the nod of the Trump Administration. Maybe he'll agree to quiet criticisms that he's in bed with Putin. I can imagine SAMs and ATGMs may qualify as a lethal defensive system though Russia would likely not agree.
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/us-general-seeks-weapons-support-ukraine-162932475.html
US general seeks weapons support for Ukraine
The commander of US forces in Europe said Tuesday that United States should consider arming Ukraine with defensive weapons as it fights Russian-backed rebels in the country's east.
Ukraine has long sought supplies of US weapons, but was rebuffed by former president Barack Obama's administration, which sent US military personnel to train Ukrainian forces instead.
"I personally believe we need to consider lethal defensive weapons for Ukraine," Army General Curtis Scaparrotti, who is NATO's supreme allied commander and head of the US European Command, said.
https://sg.news.yahoo.com/us-general-seeks-weapons-support-ukraine-162932475.html
US general seeks weapons support for Ukraine
The commander of US forces in Europe said Tuesday that United States should consider arming Ukraine with defensive weapons as it fights Russian-backed rebels in the country's east.
Ukraine has long sought supplies of US weapons, but was rebuffed by former president Barack Obama's administration, which sent US military personnel to train Ukrainian forces instead.
"I personally believe we need to consider lethal defensive weapons for Ukraine," Army General Curtis Scaparrotti, who is NATO's supreme allied commander and head of the US European Command, said.
So he should provide weapons to the corrupt government of Ukraine and escalate the situation in a deadlocked conflict in order to prove he is not in bed with Putin?
How about focusing on the live conflicts like Iraq and Syria? Or the deteriorating situation in Afghanistan?
Afghan troops withdraw from key area in Taliban fight - CNN.com
You should not let the mainstream media get into your head and dictate the priorities.
How about focusing on the live conflicts like Iraq and Syria? Or the deteriorating situation in Afghanistan?
Afghan troops withdraw from key area in Taliban fight - CNN.com
You should not let the mainstream media get into your head and dictate the priorities.
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