Ok fair enough, one element being raised, one training and certifying and two ready.
I did not see the news feature you refer to.
This article has some info about why Boeing and Bell are thinking there may be an early replacement of ARH Tiger.
Airbus Optimistic On Australia’s Tigers As Bell, Boeing Circle | Avalon Airshow content from Aviation Week
Got to love the line "the best attack helicopter in the world, for it's weight"! Considering that all other attack helicopters are, I believe, heavier or lighter then you could assume it is the only one in "It's weight", therefore could easily also be the worst for its weight as well.
Last edited:
Seems Bell is going at it with the Tiger replacement either planning to or possibly already have put forth an offer for 22 AH-1Z's and 15 UH-1Y's.
https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/rotorhub/avalon-2017-bell-positions-viper-venom-combo/
The 15 UH-1Y's are there offer for the special forces helo mentioned in the DWP so is some what larger then what we had discussed last year but betwene commonality with the AH-1Z and both being marinized already might be a sell-able option.
https://www.shephardmedia.com/news/rotorhub/avalon-2017-bell-positions-viper-venom-combo/
The 15 UH-1Y's are there offer for the special forces helo mentioned in the DWP so is some what larger then what we had discussed last year but betwene commonality with the AH-1Z and both being marinized already might be a sell-able option.
Redlands18
Well-Known Member
Return of the Huey( yea i know the only thing they have in common is the UH-1 designation). If i remember my DWP correctly there was a req for a minimum number of SF Helos that could fit into a C-17, could have been 3? Doubt you would get 3 UH-1Ys into a C-17.
I think that a few years back the RAAF got 3 RNZAF UH-1Hs into a C-17, top and tailed with rotors off. I presume that the Yankees and Zulus have folding rotors so that would not be an issue.
Redlands18
Well-Known Member
Would depend on whether the SF req includes moving personal, their eqpt, Ammo etc on the same Aircraft, then it might get a bit sqeezy. Does the SF requirment include the ability to land, offload the Helicopters, load and conduct a mission without further support?
That's the issue isn't it. A lot of variables.
Redlands18
Well-Known Member
And being a SF capability Cobber we may never actually know the answer. It really is going to be interesting to see what Helicopter is chosen and what equipment is fitted (what will be in the public domain anyway).
fundamentally no.
cash and carry is distributed across platforms
risk and redundancy issue
t68
Well-Known Member
the Integrated Investment Program reads. “They will be able to be deployed rapidly as a small force element of three to four aircraft and personnel by the [C-17] Globemaster.”
GF alluded to this a short time ago they may be looking at a single solution of manned/unmanned special forces/ISR possibly a mix of AH-6/MH-6 Little Bird or a hybrid MQ-8C and a version of the Kiowa Warrior, just guessing on my part
GF alluded to this a short time ago they may be looking at a single solution of manned/unmanned special forces/ISR possibly a mix of AH-6/MH-6 Little Bird or a hybrid MQ-8C and a version of the Kiowa Warrior, just guessing on my part
It kind of doesn't matter where I put this as it doesn't matter
but its a spectacular example of why the general press is held in such high regard by people in Defence and Industry
Australia's top secret sites uncovered
although there are some current journos who could start contesting the mantle for poor research such as Andrew Greene
but its a spectacular example of why the general press is held in such high regard by people in Defence and Industry
Australia's top secret sites uncovered
although there are some current journos who could start contesting the mantle for poor research such as Andrew Greene
dumb and dumber. although the numerous errors wouldn't have helped its credibility at the time
I imagine that a few people would have been losing control of their bladders re the comments about Tindal
Aust Aviation Avalon output on the Tigers
Tiger support work paying dividends – Fraser | Australian Aviation
Tiger support work paying dividends – Fraser | Australian Aviation
t68
Well-Known Member
Interesting couple of comments, I doubt even NZ will want these pussycats.
t68
Well-Known Member
Not at the moment but hopefully when you guys increase the capbilty of the JATF.
when ADF transition's from Tiger to ?? Wonder if NZ could join the program to hit the ground running for the next installment of capabilty increase, think it might be an easier sell than resurrecting the ACF