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That's the plan but without VLS for now. Adding tube launched OTH anti ship missiles as well as Upgraded defenses.
Navy Wants LCS ‘Frigate’ Upgrade A Year Earlier: 2018, Not 2019 « Breaking Defense - Defense industry news, analysis and commentary
https://news.usni.org/2015/10/15/na...lity-survivability-will-not-retain-lcss-speed
More Trump specifics for USN plans
As for the Navy, Trump said in the speech that he wants a 350-ship Navy, compared to today’s stated goal of 308 – which is set to increase when the Navy releases an updated Force Structure Assessment later this year. That large fleet would emphasize ballistic missile defense. Trump called for modernizing all 22 cruisers, which he called “the foundation of our missile defense capabilities in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. He said upgrading each ship to the latest Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense system would cost $220 million (in FY 2010 dollars) per modernization. Eleven cruisers had already undergone upgrades, and four more have been inducted into the phased modernization plan since Congress mandated that two ships a year be modernized, with the work taking no more than four years per ship and no more than six ships being worked on at any given time.
Trump also said he would “procure additional modern destroyers that are designed to handle the missile defense mission in the coming years.” The Navy is currently buying two destroyers a year, split between the Ingalls Shipbuilding yard in Mississippi and Bath Iron Works in Maine. Bath has struggled to balance both the Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyers Trump was likely referencing with the high-tech Zumwalt-class destroyers the yard is building concurrently. USS Zumwalt (DDG-1000) commissioned this fall, but Bath will have to balance the two destroyer programs – and their competing requirements for electricians and other skilled labor – until about late 2018 when DDG-1002 delivers.
Full story
https://news.usni.org/2016/11/10/trump_maritime_security_22457
As for the Navy, Trump said in the speech that he wants a 350-ship Navy, compared to today’s stated goal of 308 – which is set to increase when the Navy releases an updated Force Structure Assessment later this year. That large fleet would emphasize ballistic missile defense. Trump called for modernizing all 22 cruisers, which he called “the foundation of our missile defense capabilities in Europe, Asia, and the Middle East. He said upgrading each ship to the latest Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense system would cost $220 million (in FY 2010 dollars) per modernization. Eleven cruisers had already undergone upgrades, and four more have been inducted into the phased modernization plan since Congress mandated that two ships a year be modernized, with the work taking no more than four years per ship and no more than six ships being worked on at any given time.
Trump also said he would “procure additional modern destroyers that are designed to handle the missile defense mission in the coming years.” The Navy is currently buying two destroyers a year, split between the Ingalls Shipbuilding yard in Mississippi and Bath Iron Works in Maine. Bath has struggled to balance both the Arleigh Burke-class guided missile destroyers Trump was likely referencing with the high-tech Zumwalt-class destroyers the yard is building concurrently. USS Zumwalt (DDG-1000) commissioned this fall, but Bath will have to balance the two destroyer programs – and their competing requirements for electricians and other skilled labor – until about late 2018 when DDG-1002 delivers.
Full story
https://news.usni.org/2016/11/10/trump_maritime_security_22457
Zumwalt repairs in Panama
The USS Zumwalt suffered main drive issues while transiting the Panama Canal and is sidelined for repairs. Similar incident as before due to water intrusion into the new Integrated Power Units
https://news.usni.org/2016/11/22/uss-zumwalt-sidelined-panama
The USS Zumwalt suffered main drive issues while transiting the Panama Canal and is sidelined for repairs. Similar incident as before due to water intrusion into the new Integrated Power Units
https://news.usni.org/2016/11/22/uss-zumwalt-sidelined-panama
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
This IEP issue is much less severe than the TYPE 45 issue. What is troubling is why the design is so vulnerable to water leaks around electrical components which simply shouldn't be happening in a brand new properly designed ship. To my knowledge, no water intrusion into the Type 45 IEP has ever been reported, just big problems with the WR21s and undersized diesels.
USN looking to the future of UUVs
The USN and DARPA are looking to the future of UUVs for ISR and strike roles. Eventual plan is to have a host of drones deployable,from larger hosts for various mission sets. Boeing now has a UUV that can stay deployed autonomously for months.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...756572-9c61-11e6-b3c9-f662adaa0048_story.html
The USN and DARPA are looking to the future of UUVs for ISR and strike roles. Eventual plan is to have a host of drones deployable,from larger hosts for various mission sets. Boeing now has a UUV that can stay deployed autonomously for months.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/busi...756572-9c61-11e6-b3c9-f662adaa0048_story.html
The entire UUV scenario opens a Pandora's box of possibilities. The mission sets are endless but coupled to those are the consequences of "misplacing" a drone. How is info protected, how is the technology protected? Are there self destruct circuits built in to guard against such circumstance?
These developments really do introduce a modern warfare medium where human participation is slowly disappearing. So long to overseas service, future vets will be those keyboard kids who never leave home.
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
This link suggests the USN may be ordering a larger number of SH next year to replace older Hornets. Interesting to see how this will effect F-35C numbers in the short term. With Kuwait and existing USN orders, this will put lots of pressure on Canadian military procurement to get an order out asap for the 18 junior thinks we need. Hopefully the USN gets there first so the RCAF interim order gets more difficult.:rotfl
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN13T05S
http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN13T05S
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Shells cost Eight hundred thousand a copy and ship suppose to have 600. THe shell cost more than dam ship.This being the lead ship it's still going through shake down cruise.It direct drive first in it kind.
The ERAP rounds will be bybassed with a leap forward to the Railgun.
FormerDirtDart
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His math also sucks. Only around 1/7 the cost of the ship.
https://gcaptain.com/largest-dry-do...ed&utm_campaign=Feed:+Gcaptain+(gCaptain.com)
(largest on the west coast, not overall)
(largest on the west coast, not overall)
https://gcaptain.com/u-s-navy-shipbuilders-ready-for-trumps-350-ship-expansion-plan/
the unspoken side effect of this ramp up will be the potential for more air.....
JSF-B has effectively given the USN double the platform base to launch fixed wing air. Although the fixed wing air on a the LH's is just a squadron, its also about the SA that the JSF-B can bring to the overall fleet.
eg they're airborne SA bearers as well as shooters
the unspoken side effect of this ramp up will be the potential for more air.....
JSF-B has effectively given the USN double the platform base to launch fixed wing air. Although the fixed wing air on a the LH's is just a squadron, its also about the SA that the JSF-B can bring to the overall fleet.
eg they're airborne SA bearers as well as shooters
You have to wonder if, with the multi spectrum capabilities, together with the basing flexibility the F-35B brings, an aviation capable strike cruiser may be in the cards again. Either that or a USN equivalent to Japans helicopter escorts to bolster their surface action groups.
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The USN is looking at that in early 2017 deploying a new SAG formation for the first time. I thought it was interesting for sure. 3 DDG51s and an ARG. Given the successful,tests of using the F35B as a long range sensor using LINK16 to engage targets beyond SPY1 range, this could be a significant leap forward in both offensive and defensive standoff.
WASHINGTON, D.C. — When amphibious warship USS Wasp (LHD-1) deploys the first time from its new homeport in Japan in late 2017, it’ll ship out with some extras: a squadron of Marine F-35B Lighting II Joint Strike Fighters, three guided-missile destroyers, a Marine general and a Navy admiral.
The deployment will be a test for a so-called upgunned Expeditionary Strike Group that will combine a traditional three-ship Amphibious Ready Group (ARG) with a three ship guided-missile destroyer surface action group (SAG), Adm. Scott Swift, commander of the U.S. Pacific Fleet, told reporters on Friday.
The six-ship force – paired with a Marine Expeditionary Unit – is designed to relieve the pressure of the demand for the Navy’s 11 carrier strike groups by U.S. combatant commanders (COCOMs), Swift said.
https://news.usni.org/2016/11/23/pacflts-swift-amphib-wasp-will-deploy-surface-action-group-2017
CREF my prev "eg they're airborne SA bearers as well as shooters"
t68
Well-Known Member
I imagine the UK will be watching with a very keen interest, as it's a bigger version of LHA 6 only downside they have to get the kinks out of the T45 and get T26 ball rolling PDQ
The lack of CEC may also limit what they can do with all the extra data, ie whether they can translate it into a usable picture. UK aren't the only ones who make assumptions on new capabilities being integrated into platforms and networked to provide greater over all effect, even with a reduction in numbers from those planned, but they do seem to be the most seriously affected by the failure to acquire enabling capabilities as well as leaving enough time to ensure the new tech actually works reliably.
FormerDirtDart
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The 350 ship Navy is a Unicorn. You'll read all sorts of stories about it. People will tell you great & wonderful tales about it. But, you'll never see it in real life.
The funds necessary for such a project are astronomical. The Ohio Replacement Submarine (Columbia class) has yet to really start chewing up procurement funds. And, how can such growth effort be justified when the Navy has been underfunding maintenance of the ships it currently fields. And, a program has yet to be started to replace the Ticonderoga class cruisers, which will have to start being withdrawn from service by the end of the decade. Both of those efforts would only maintain a status quo in fleet strength.
Sorry, but I don't see a Unicorn. I see a tired old mule that someone has strapped a fake horn to.
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
The same applies to the RNZN, RN, and RCN to varying degrees. The exception is the RAN.