Obesity in ROTC?

Anonymous95

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So, this may be in the wrong category. I'm not sure but hello everyone, I am a 20 year old female with a height of 5'3 and weight of 220 (based on my last weigh in). I've been told that I don't look my weight and I'm more in shape than I think but that doesn't relieve my unavoidable insecurities for this fall. I'm not entirely sure, but I believe I'm roughly 70 pounds overweight which is possibly morbidly obese. About 2 weeks ago I enrolled into AROTC, MSI. Class starts in 20 days. I've been looking into other forums and seen that it seems like 95% of Csdets are already fit for ROTC. I have the motivation to complete it but I'm worried that I'm so out of shape and overweight that my motivation won't be enough. Has anyone seen someone or themselves make it through while being as fat as I am? I would never want to ruin the experience for other cadets because I'm slowing them down. And yes, I've already started working out. I've lost 5lbs in 8 days. Telling me to, "get off my fat ***" won't help my question because I'm already off of it.
 

kato

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220 lbs at 5'3 is a BMI of 38.7 - 50 lbs above the maximum limit for "overweight", and 75-80 lbs above the maximum limit for "normal" (in other words, yes it is obese). AROTC requirements put the maximum limit at slightly above "normal" weight - so hey, 220 lbs is only 65 lbs over, not 70.
 

KiwiRob

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I'd be surprised if you're not diabetic or in the early stages of getting diabetes with a BMI of 38.7. For example my wife is your height and weighs 114 lbs, she's also 39 years old, runs daily, eats well.
 

Volkodav

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I'd be surprised if you're not diabetic or in the early stages of getting diabetes with a BMI of 38.7. For example my wife is your height and weighs 114 lbs, she's also 39 years old, runs daily, eats well.
Yep that's helpful, thanks for that.

Anonymous95, realistically it is never too late, it will be hard and there will likely be bullying and bastardisation until you get into shape but it is possible. Concentrate on fitness first as you wont be able to anything about the weight short term, well not enough to make an immediate difference, being able to keep up is more important than looking like a whippet. To late for a private PT but it may be worth seeing what resources are available at the campus in terms of medical and fitness, i.e. doctors to advise fitness and health strategies, dieticians, even a nurse able to advise and monitor progress.

As for diabetes, under the age of 40 its not usually a problem and over 40 changing your lifestyle, diet and exercise will usually get rid of it. A year ago doctors told me point blank the medication I had to take would make me put on weight and develop diabetes, I lost weight and my blood sugar dropped so don't worry too much about what you are told online if doctors get it wrong sometimes too.
 

Blackshoe

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So, this may be in the wrong category. I'm not sure but hello everyone, I am a 20 year old female with a height of 5'3 and weight of 220 (based on my last weigh in). I've been told that I don't look my weight and I'm more in shape than I think but that doesn't relieve my unavoidable insecurities for this fall. I'm not entirely sure, but I believe I'm roughly 70 pounds overweight which is possibly morbidly obese. About 2 weeks ago I enrolled into AROTC, MSI. Class starts in 20 days. I've been looking into other forums and seen that it seems like 95% of Csdets are already fit for ROTC. I have the motivation to complete it but I'm worried that I'm so out of shape and overweight that my motivation won't be enough. Has anyone seen someone or themselves make it through while being as fat as I am? I would never want to ruin the experience for other cadets because I'm slowing them down. And yes, I've already started working out. I've lost 5lbs in 8 days. Telling me to, "get off my fat ***" won't help my question because I'm already off of it.
As a former NROTC instructor (though I've been off the deck for a couple years)...

If you have the motivation to continuously work hard and lose the weight...you can make it through.

The good news is that the Army has the lowest standards and takes anyone with a pulse and a hope of commissioning. They don't cost them anything until they get contracted after going to FTX (third-year, IIRC), and you never know, they may work out. Plus, the Army always has the hard imposition of having the largest number of slots to fill (they have to fill both active Army, Army Reserve, and National Guard billets-AFROTC and NROTC only commission active-duty). The other good news is they have enough people in their units that they can get people extra help, and they will work with people.

Your life is going to be significantly harder than the average cadets, and I believe you won't be eligible for a scholarship until you are with PFT standards. But it's doable, if you work hard enough. That's not a guarantee per se, but it does mean you can give yourself a fighting chance.

From my experience, most (I'd say 90%) people joining the program were in "good shape" compared to the average student, but most also ended up on Remedial PT their freshman year anyway, largely because of form. It was always fun seeing people try and bang out 100 push-ups in two minutes, only to stop them after 10 for poor form.

Protip-diet is the key. You can't outrun your fork.

Protip number two: when working on PFT scores, don't forget push-ups and sit-ups. It's hard to gain that much speed on the 2-mi run (barring large amounts of weight loss, which would be the case), but you can get as a lot of points with relatively small increases in push-ups/sit-ups.

So, good luck, and Hua, as the Army types say.
 
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