What does SeaRAM have to do with CAS?
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Nothing to my knowledge
It's a software package that allows for engagement of Helicopters, Air, and Surface targets. I'm most specifically interested in any ability for the SeaRAM with HAS to engage surface targets.
That's why I posted the Q about SeaRAM with HAS?
Which baffles me why your post #1620 re SeaRAM would reference my previous post on PCAS if, to your knowledge, the former has nothing to do with the latter.
I'm not here to argue, I inderstand CAS as I've called and used on many occasions.
I should not have quoted my Q under your comment, understood.
Simply was seeking a more clear understanding of the HAS module for SeaRAM.
Surface target in HAS mode would most likely be small fast boats. The fire-and-forget capability would allow simultaneous engagement of multiple targets while allowing the shooter freedom to maneuver.
In the case of LCS, they will be getting Hellfire Mmw-variant. Makes sense for these to deal with small surface hostiles and reserving SeaRAM to deal with airborne threats.
In the case of LCS, they will be getting Hellfire Mmw-variant. Makes sense for these to deal with small surface hostiles and reserving SeaRAM to deal with airborne threats.
Thank you, I appreciate the Intel
SDetails for the at-sea test of the EMRG next year. Interesting to note in the future the railgun projectile will benefit from a datalink.
NAVSEA Details At Sea 2016 Railgun Test on JHSV Trenton - USNI News
NAVSEA Details At Sea 2016 Railgun Test on JHSV Trenton
Next year Naval Sea Systems Command will conduct the first at sea test of its electromagnetic railgun, hurling a guided 44 pound projectile and hypersonic speeds off the coast of Florida, NAVSEA officials said on Tuesday.
The BAE Systems designed test weapon will be mounted on the newly delivered Joint High Speed Vessel USNS Trenton (JHSV-5) and taken to Eglin Air Force Base’s maritime test range off the Florida panhandle late in the summer of 2016. The Navy originally planned to use the JHSV USNS Millinocket (JHSV- 3) for the test..The Florida test will place a static floating target at a range of 25 to 50 nautical miles from the test ship and fire five GPS guided hyper velocity projectiles (HVP) at the target as the final part of 20 planned firings for the railgun at the Eglin range.
“It’s an over the horizon engagement. We’re firing on a ballistic trajectory and guiding into intercepting that target,” he said to reporters following the briefing.
“Eventually when we have a little bit more advancement in the projectile there will be some ability to communicate with [the round]."
NAVSEA Details At Sea 2016 Railgun Test on JHSV Trenton - USNI News
NAVSEA Details At Sea 2016 Railgun Test on JHSV Trenton
Next year Naval Sea Systems Command will conduct the first at sea test of its electromagnetic railgun, hurling a guided 44 pound projectile and hypersonic speeds off the coast of Florida, NAVSEA officials said on Tuesday.
The BAE Systems designed test weapon will be mounted on the newly delivered Joint High Speed Vessel USNS Trenton (JHSV-5) and taken to Eglin Air Force Base’s maritime test range off the Florida panhandle late in the summer of 2016. The Navy originally planned to use the JHSV USNS Millinocket (JHSV- 3) for the test..The Florida test will place a static floating target at a range of 25 to 50 nautical miles from the test ship and fire five GPS guided hyper velocity projectiles (HVP) at the target as the final part of 20 planned firings for the railgun at the Eglin range.
“It’s an over the horizon engagement. We’re firing on a ballistic trajectory and guiding into intercepting that target,” he said to reporters following the briefing.
“Eventually when we have a little bit more advancement in the projectile there will be some ability to communicate with [the round]."
Quick Qestion Regarding the HARM
Given the attention to A2D2 and countering it, the AGM 88 HARM has a fairly limited range requiring it to be launched well within the AD bubble or coastal SAM. The PLA has the S300 and is in the process of acquiring the S400 further increasing their bubble well beyond the HARM. Has ther been any work on a Sub launched variant? Use a Virgina, Seawolf, or LA class to get in closer undetected and strike Radar sites?
Given the attention to A2D2 and countering it, the AGM 88 HARM has a fairly limited range requiring it to be launched well within the AD bubble or coastal SAM. The PLA has the S300 and is in the process of acquiring the S400 further increasing their bubble well beyond the HARM. Has ther been any work on a Sub launched variant? Use a Virgina, Seawolf, or LA class to get in closer undetected and strike Radar sites?
Every missile (yes even the 'mythical' S300/400 series) have a defined NEZ - no escape zone, in which the weapon is most likely to hit its target.
These systems have 'nn' amount of capability but like any system the further away they attempt to engage a target, the more likely they are to be effectively countered and the less lethal they become.
Looking at their maximum range and AGM-88's maximum range and imagining that because the posted specs don't seem to match up, The AGM-88 is obviously outclassed, is akin to an exercise in deciding that 2+2 equals 5.
Put it another way. What you are dffectively suggesting is that a sniper armed with a long range 12.7mm rifle effectly outmatches a rifleman armed with a 5.56mm rifle under all circumstances and in every conceivable scenario.
REAL combat doesn't work that way. Doesn't matter whether its SAM v aircraft or soldier v soldier.
It is a systems event. The US fired hundreds of HARM's over Bosnia and destroyed 'X' amount of systems with them. The Serbs fired X amount of SAM's and shot down a handful of aircraft. Who was more effective?
The overall dominant system. Not any one particular weapon system, with a particular set of paper advantages, under some circumstances.
No worries, those are my thoughts on the matter. But do you agree? Disagree? Have no opinion?
This IS a discussion forum afterall. Not a 'make a statement and not support it' forum afterall. All sides of the equation are welcome.
Agree with the thoughts, sub launched TLAMS, however unstealthy they may be, could most certaintly contribute in a large way. I would assume as part of a large package that could include MALDs and Growlers to work to overload the targeted systems.
FormerDirtDart
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YIKES!!!
USS The Sullivans (DDG-68) suffered damage on July 18th when a SM-2 missile exploded just after launching.
Apparently, and probably very luckily, the missile did not possess a warhead.
No casualties have been reported
http://news.usni.org/2015/07/22/des...le-explodes-after-launch-no-injuries-reported
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USS The Sullivans (DDG-68) suffered damage on July 18th when a SM-2 missile exploded just after launching.
Apparently, and probably very luckily, the missile did not possess a warhead.
Missile debris caused a fire to breakout port side aft, on or adjacent the helo deck.
No casualties have been reported
http://news.usni.org/2015/07/22/des...le-explodes-after-launch-no-injuries-reported
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Man, thank God that the thing didn't have a warhead. Glad nobody was injured.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=0acJ3xyhaJo
Raytheon's view of how it's products would take on an advanced IADS. Note that there is a Navy effort to develop AARGM-ER doubling the range of AGM-88E.
Air Force confirms work on terrifying new weapon | Daily Mail Online
Another possible player is Boeing's CHAMP fitted into a JASSM. Apparently it is already an operational capability according to the USAF.
Ty, I'm familiar with the MALD but didn't know the alternate platforms it may be deployed from.
Ty
I've read conflicting information on CHAMP, in that it is expected to be tested in the AGM-86 ALCM missile airframe by 2016, and that integration with a JASSM-ER sized missile isn't expected until the 2020s. Certainly I don't think it's operational at this point, at least not a JASSM variant. There's a bit of info out there if you want to do some googling.
. It's probably "operational" in the configuration tested several years back but perhaps just a handful on-hand for special occasions?
The AF apparently is working to integrate CHAMP into JASSM-ER and even has long-term plans to adapt it to other platforms in the future, manned and unmanned. Perhaps an option for JSF or LRSB to aid in penerration missions.
USAF unveils roadmap for microwave weapons use - 7/29/2015 - Flight Global
The AF apparently is working to integrate CHAMP into JASSM-ER and even has long-term plans to adapt it to other platforms in the future, manned and unmanned. Perhaps an option for JSF or LRSB to aid in penerration missions.
USAF unveils roadmap for microwave weapons use - 7/29/2015 - Flight Global