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40 deg south

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Re-posting this here as it is currently the most active NZ-focused thread.

Time to dust off your submission-writing skills, gentlemen.

Defence Review - Defence White Paper [Ministry of Defence NZ]

Defence White Paper 2015

The Government has directed that a review of its defence policy be conducted over the course of 2015. The Government last updated its defence policy through the Defence White Paper 2010.

The Defence White Paper 2010 represented the first comprehensive articulation of New Zealand’s defence policy this century. Since publication it has provided Defence with the direction it needs to be able to effectively prioritise the roles and tasks it undertakes, both at home and overseas, and guide the modernisation of many of the Defence Force’s military capabilities.

Defence policy has continued to develop and adapt since 2010. The Defence White Paper 2015 will provide an opportunity to take stock of changes to New Zealand’s strategic circumstances over the past five years.

The Defence White Paper 2015 will focus on the contribution of the Defence Force and Ministry of Defence towards New Zealand’s security, resilience and prosperity. It will set out New Zealand’s defence policy and how policy will be implemented to advance the nation’s national security and interests. In this regard the Defence White Paper 2015 will provide the basis for the Defence Force’s and Ministry of Defence’s strategy and planning from 2015 onward.

In 2009, over 600 written submissions were received from individuals and organisations as part of the public consultation process. In addition, over 250 people attended public meetings around the country. We are keen to ensure that New Zealanders are able to have their say again on defence and security matters.
Public Consultation and Making a Submission

On 5 May 2015, the Minister of Defence, Hon Gerry Brownlee announced the beginning of the Defence White Paper 2015 public consultation process, running to 22 June 2015.

The links below provides further information on the aims and objectives of the public consultation process, the times and locations of meetings that are being held around New Zealand, and how you can have your say:

Information about the public consultation on the Defence White Paper 2015
Defence White Paper 2015 Public Consultation Document
How to make a submission

Media releases regarding the Defence White Paper 2015

Click here for media statements by the Minister of Defence and frequently asked questions (FAQs)

Contact us

Enquiries regarding the Defence White Paper 2015, including feedback on the website or public consultation process, can be made by either emailing [email protected] or writing to:

Defence White Paper 2015
Ministry of Defence
PO Box 12703
WELLINGTON 6144
 

ngatimozart

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2015 DWP Submissions

Thanks for that 40°S. I was wondering if and / or when they were coming out. I have had a quick read through the 36 page information document and the questions seem reasonable. They also ask for comments on other topics that aren't covered by the questions. Will be interesting to see what feedback they get. Maybe I read it to quickly but I didn't see anything about a Select Committee.
 

ngatimozart

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Haha hopefully the powers that be also have access to this site and can take some suggestions, advice, veiws, ideas and critiques directly from here to add to their toolbox.
Reg they should just commission us to write the DWP and pay us consultants rates and perks. Then pay us again to write, approve and implement the policy for them. :D :daz:soldier:eek:nfloorl:
 

RegR

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Reg they should just commission us to write the DWP and pay us consultants rates and perks. Then pay us again to write, approve and implement the policy for them. :D :daz:soldier:eek:nfloorl:
If only ngati, I think there is alot more common sense on this forum than there is in the whole of cabinet when it comes to defence, dreams are free aye.
 

40 deg south

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Interesting piece about Swedish AW109s being operated in a maritime mission alongside NH90s.

Swedish AW109 performing well for EU off Somali coast - 5/5/2015 - Flight Global

The Swedish Defence Helicopter Wing has made a successful operational debut aboard a surface ship operated by another nation, with an AgustaWestland AW109 having supported the EU’s Operation Atalanta activity off the coast of Somalia for almost three months.

Sweden early this year deployed two AW109s and 14 personnel aboard the Royal Netherlands Navy amphibious assault shipJohan de Witt, alongside a Dutch NH Industries NH90. One of the Swedish rotorcraft, which is ordinarily based in Ronneby, is maintained in an operational condition, with the other acting as a spare.
 

John Fedup

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Too early to tell what effect the of today's crash will have on the A400M program but it has to make the C-17 seem like a better bet for NZ.
 

Zero Alpha

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Too early to tell what effect the of today's crash will have on the A400M program but it has to make the C-17 seem like a better bet for NZ.
I'm not so sure. There are witness reports of wire strike while attempting to land. While it's very early to tell, one possibility is that the crew were distracted after a in-flight warning and were busy running checklists and didn't notice the wire. Certainly isn't ideal, but unless the investigation turns up something major it won't be a show stopper.
 

John Fedup

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I'm not so sure. There are witness reports of wire strike while attempting to land. While it's very early to tell, one possibility is that the crew were distracted after a in-flight warning and were busy running checklists and didn't notice the wire. Certainly isn't ideal, but unless the investigation turns up something major it won't be a show stopper.
Too early to tell but news reports suggest some sort of emergency was on going which required an immediate return to base and apparently the attempted landing did involve a wire strike. Clearly, this is going to cause concern for customers that have been awaiting delivery on this troubled program. Then again, there is no real alternative now for most customers.
 

Zero Alpha

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Too early to tell but news reports suggest some sort of emergency was on going which required an immediate return to base and apparently the attempted landing did involve a wire strike. Clearly, this is going to cause concern for customers that have been awaiting delivery on this troubled program. Then again, there is no real alternative now for most customers.
Very hard to tell what constitutes an emergency in a test flight. I suspect that SOPs dictate a particularly cautious approach on a first flight for the airframe.

The only thing we know for sure is this is the sort of headache the new CEO of Airbus Military could do without just as the production schedule seems to be sorting itself out.


OneNews is carrying a story today that Brownlee has said the Hercs may be flying until 2022.
 

John Fedup

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The only thing we know for sure is this is the sort of headache the new CEO of Airbus Military could do without just as the production schedule seems to be sorting itself out.
Indeed, this is last thing he needs. The program seems on track now then this happens.
 

ngatimozart

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OneNews is carrying a story today that Brownlee has said the Hercs may be flying until 2022.
Interesting read and Big Gerrys comments on how much the budget is. His comments can be read different ways. Depends upon your point view, I suppose, on what you take from them. For a kiwi MSM defence aviation story it wasn't badly written - a refreshing change.

With regard to the A400M crash in Seville, I don't think that have an undue detrimental impact upon the aircraft sales potential. Other aircraft have had fatal crashes either during the development of the aircraft or shortly after production is started, that haven't impacted sales in the long term. With this incident it is to early to state what the actual cause was and any comments about the future viability of the aircraft must be made in the context of this.
 

Gracie1234

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I think Gerry's comments about commercial negotiations is very interesting. That makes me think that are already taking to both parties to get a solid quote.
 

ngatimozart

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I think Gerry's comments about commercial negotiations is very interesting. That makes me think that are already taking to both parties to get a solid quote.
Yes I to get the impression that the are quite serious about it and that it has gone beyond the let's look and see what it will cost us stage. I notice that on a kiwi aviation forum it has been suggested that they might be a B757 replacement or a supplementary purchase. I would suggest the former rather than the latter although it is all supposition at the moment.

On another note Defence News ran a story over the weekend regarding the Saudis building AN 32 transports on behalf of Antonov with the Saudis keeping the IP and engineering rights. The new builds will be called AN 132, have Canadian (presumably PWC) turbo prop engines and western nav systems and probably avionics. The engines and western nav systems would make the aircraft more attractive to western buyers and the aircraft are no slouches. A good move for Antonov as well.
 

RegR

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The 757s have been getting abit of a workout lately clocking up airpoints all over the place on a variety of tasks, govt may be realising the added cost has a payoff in some important areas.
 

ngatimozart

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The govt budget is announced in the arvo of Thursday 21/5/2015 and the possibility exists that any C17 procurement announcement may occur as part of the budget announcements. The NZG haven't achieved their stated goal of a surplus, hence politics will come into play, but since they have the support of the main opposition party for this procurement, any nay sayers will be the shrill bleatings of a minor party and the usual left wing suspects.
 
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40 deg south

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I think Gerry's comments about commercial negotiations is very interesting. That makes me think that are already taking to both parties to get a solid quote.
Agreed. I'm not personally expecting an announcement until late in the year when the air mobility paper is completed, but a surprise budget announcement is not out of the question.

Big Gerry did well in how he handled the cost question too, pointing out that the original Herc purchase in the 1960s cost a fortune at the time but NZ has had great value over the decades. This is exactly the right approach, as it highlights the benefit of good capital purchases rather than the short-term costs.
 

40 deg south

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Andover Replaced by C295

Just not in New Zealand!

http://www.wsj.com/articles/india-approves-purchase-of-56-airbus-c295-transport-planes-1431618137

India has 56 licence-built Avro 748s, which I are a close relative of the Andovers previously flown by RNZAF. (The HS 748 was the civilian short-haul airliner that the Andover was developed from).

India has just signed a deal with Airbus for 16 ready-built C295s, with a further 40 to be assembled locally. The local partner is the TATA conglomerate, a private-sector business with reach into every part of the Indian economy. It is a more promising partner than HAL, the state-owned airframer that Dassault were saddled with during the original Rafale negotiations.

Even setting aside the locally-built versions, this further opens up the considerable size gap between the C27J and C295 fleets.
 
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ngatimozart

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Interesting snippet on Janes today. Also saw it on Flight Global. It appears that Boeing is upgrading A10 Warthogs for the USAF. They have been discussing with the USAF about selling the Warthogs internationally if the USAF can gain approval to retire them. Boeing would upgrade them and on sell them. The hard bit will be to get Congress to approve the divestment.
 
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