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C130's can land on Tuvalu.
A few years ago a RAAF C17 flew desal equipment to Samoa, and the RNZAF C130 flew it the rest of the way to Funafuti.
Funafuti International Airport has a ex WW11 runway of 1500 metres (from Wiki)
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A few years ago a RAAF C17 flew desal equipment to Samoa, and the RNZAF C130 flew it the rest of the way to Funafuti.
Funafuti International Airport has a ex WW11 runway of 1500 metres (from Wiki)
You right, doing some googling brings up the RNZAF landing. My bad.
I think you'll find they will be used, it just takes time.
Ironically, the response might be delayed by another cyclone. 3 Bde is the online brigade, so they will be providing the warm bodies for the response, however TC Nathan has taken a turn back towards the coast of North Queensland, and therefore might prevent, or at least delay, loading in Townsville. The government might not be too keen to commit everything to support Vanuatu with a likely category 3 cyclone barrelling towards cairns either.
Steel is cheap and air is free, maybe something larger than 40m would make sense so as to incorporate a multi mission deck, perhaps even large enough to take a pair of 20' containers and of course a suitable crane to load / off load them. Just a thought.
The problem with that statement though, is that if you give the ship more real estate, the users want to do more with it. The extra mission systems then add to the cost and on and on it goes.
The current boats are a perfect example of for but not with as they have space and weight for a variety of systems they have never been fitted with, i.e. a deck gun (only some of the boats even have an MG). The boats will be built to a price and if the end user can't afford extra gear Australia definitely won't be paying for it, it's not the same as a parent navy pushing to fill empty space, these are gifts, they come as they are.
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The Tobruk is in Townsville, loading aid for shipment to Vanuatu.
An RAF C-17 is due at Amberley tomorrow morning to begin a shuttle to Port Vila.
An RAF C-17 is due at Amberley tomorrow morning to begin a shuttle to Port Vila.
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The length of the vessel is limited by port facilities as well. These vessel have deicated berths in many cases as they cannot tie up the limited port facilities (in some cases they have the only port facilities). In those cases it is simply not possible to use a longer vessel as the cost of blasting or digging out the wharf space is prohibitive.
This is not the case for all potential recipients but it is for many.
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Just, apparently. I had heard that much over 36 would be a squeeze in some cases.
Interview with Steve Ludlam, former Managing Director and Chief Executive of the Australian Submarine Corporation (ASC)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbncepEJ42g&feature=share&ab_channel=SAGEIntl66
John Bruni - also tied up with RUSI SA
http://www.linkedin.com/profile/vie...thToken=7L0d&ref=NUS&trk=NUS-body-member-name
one of the good academics worth paying attention to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbncepEJ42g&feature=share&ab_channel=SAGEIntl66
John Bruni - also tied up with RUSI SA
http://www.linkedin.com/profile/vie...thToken=7L0d&ref=NUS&trk=NUS-body-member-name
one of the good academics worth paying attention to
Very interesting, thanks for that.
One of the biggest differences under Ludlum was that ideas that had been parked for years suddenly got up and made a very real difference. There was a layer of people in ASC who where very much "that's not how we do things here" and the easiest way to get off side with them and potentially stuff your career was to push a new idea. Ludlum seemed to fix that problem and where people wouldn't change he changed the people. Ironically these resistant types who were responsible for most of the inertia were also the ones who seemed to believe the anti-ASC rhetoric in the media and parliament, I could go further in describing them but I wont.
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If they do require local repair, Frustratingly, everyone will have to be happy with the answer, when asked 'when is going to be done?' Comes the reponse - 'Tomorrow'
The bigger issue will be the inter-island 'ferries'. Pretty much the lifeline getting in/ out. The island of Tanna damage assessment doesn't look good.
John Fedup
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His final comment about avoiding the "boom and bust" cycle is so right on! I think Australia is better positioned now to avoid this. Hopefully Canada's naval renewal will result in a more stable industry as well.
Cyclone Pam: Australia pledges long-term support for Vanuatu as more aid arrives on archipelago - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Tobruk lands in Vanuatu.
Looks like things will get worse before they get better. Reports coming in that pretty much everything has been destroyed. Its going to take a long time to rebuild after this one.
Tobruk lands in Vanuatu.
Looks like things will get worse before they get better. Reports coming in that pretty much everything has been destroyed. Its going to take a long time to rebuild after this one.
John Fedup
The Bunker Group
The link below from defense-aerospace seems to show a lack of enthusiasm from two of Japan's industrial heavyweights with regards to export business for the Soryu class subs.
Key Japanese Firms to Be A Surprise No-Show at Australian Submarine Event
Key Japanese Firms to Be A Surprise No-Show at Australian Submarine Event
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