CV90 isn't a light tank its an Infantry Fighting Vehicle (IFV). A light tank carries a big gun like a tank but without the thick armour to decrease gross weight. There is a requirement for an IFV to replace our current force of ASLAVs and M113AS4. This project is called LAND 400.
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If Army were to get a number of CV9030's or CV9040's or a similar design as part of LAND 400, the story would be somewhat different in part because of the different roles the vehicles would perform.
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There is (or has at least been proposed) the CV90-120(T) which is a CV90 IFV-based vehicle mounted with a turreted 120 mm cannon. IIRC this particular version does not have an infantry compartment. While such a design could have some utility with Army if heavy fire support is needed regionally, IMO there is a lack of sufficient need and resources to justify getting something so specific.
If Army were to get a number of CV9030's or CV9040's or a similar design as part of LAND 400, the story would be somewhat different in part because of the different roles the vehicles would perform.
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If we need more direct fire capability, I'd prefer to see a larger number of cannon equipped vehicles and M1A1's brought into service, rather than adding a new vehicle type.
Buying an IFV and a Cavalry vehicle under LAND 40, equipping them with a 30mm or 40mm cannon and adding M1A1 numbers, would provide a better all-round combat capability IMHO.
We need to buy more M1s as it is for Plan Beersheeba. There isn't enough M1s and M88s to equip three squadrons in three separate location. Since Plan Beersheeba is completely unfunded, it ain't going to happen though.
Looking at the army’s historical orders of battle the need for tanks for each Beersheba brigade is:
1 x Indpt Armd Sqn
SHQ: 2 tanks
4 x Armd Tp: 16 tanks
Spec Equip Tp: 2 dozer tanks, 2 AVLB
1 x Fwd Delivery Tp (Indpt Armd Sqn): 6 tanks
1 x Mech Cbt Engr Sqn
SHQ: 2 AVSE (dozer tanks with demo gun), 2 AVLB
2 x Mech Cbt Engr Tp: 8 AMC (armoured mine clearer, aka assault breacher vehicle)
So that’s 38 tanks and tank variants per brigade without counting ARVs (M88).
1 x Indpt Armd Sqn
SHQ: 2 tanks
4 x Armd Tp: 16 tanks
Spec Equip Tp: 2 dozer tanks, 2 AVLB
1 x Fwd Delivery Tp (Indpt Armd Sqn): 6 tanks
1 x Mech Cbt Engr Sqn
SHQ: 2 AVSE (dozer tanks with demo gun), 2 AVLB
2 x Mech Cbt Engr Tp: 8 AMC (armoured mine clearer, aka assault breacher vehicle)
So that’s 38 tanks and tank variants per brigade without counting ARVs (M88).
I know, one can dream however...
We'll still probably get them, just in 10 years. Good old Land 400, the only thing that will pay for Plan Beersheeba. Land 400 money can be used to pretty much buy anything - new tanks, new M88s, more RPS, new compounds in Adelaide, Townsville and Brisbane, an FFTS at High Range, etc etc etc. Until then we're screwed, however.
Ozymandias
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Be sure to remember those who have died, when you have your day off on Thursday.
They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning, We will remember them. Lest we forget.
They shall grow not old, as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the going down of the sun and in the morning, We will remember them. Lest we forget.
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Very much this. o/
Do you honestly think in a web forum dedicated to defence, in a thread all about the Australian Army those of us who visit this part of the internet just treat Anzac Day as a holiday?
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Gordon Branch
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New Battle Honour
Tomorrow, 10 May 2013, the SAS Regiment will be awarded the new Battle Honour "Eastern Shah Wali Kot".
On 19 June 2nd Commando Regt will receive the same honour.
Regiment to be recognised for historic Afghan battle - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
Tomorrow, 10 May 2013, the SAS Regiment will be awarded the new Battle Honour "Eastern Shah Wali Kot".
On 19 June 2nd Commando Regt will receive the same honour.
Regiment to be recognised for historic Afghan battle - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
I have been reviewing the state of the army recently and it seems a lot of good work has been going on. I'm particularly impressed with the 6th Brigade.
However, I noticed the artillery regiments are described as two batteries of six guns. What is the reason for only two gun batteries?
However, I noticed the artillery regiments are described as two batteries of six guns. What is the reason for only two gun batteries?
Army has been and is continuing to re-organise it's structures significantly over the past decade and will continue to do so over the next decade.
To answer your question specifically, an artillery regiment is attached to a Brigade and those two gun batteries per Regiment now support the two infantry battalions that exist per brigade...
Artillery has been reorganised with the introduction of the new M777A2 155mm gun, plus the digital fire control system, (AFATDS) the significantly greater use of smart munitions - Excalibur, SMART 155 and course-corrected fusing capability (GPS / INS guided fuses for standard 155mm rounds) plus the replacement of the 105mm artillery capability by 155mm capability across all Artillery Regiments.
Our artillery capability is not as big numbers-wise as it used to be, but it's far more capable and lethal nowadays.
Combined with the new mortar system we are acquiring, the vastly improved direct fire capability we have and will continue to improve over the next decade or so, plus the Tiger ARH, Army's fire support capability is in a pretty excellent place right now.
(On paper at least).
Each regiment will actually contain three batteries of (theoretically) four guns each. This enables three fire units and a JFECC to be allocated to each manoeuvre unit. Although the full 12 guns won't be realised for a while as the regiments transition to M777 and 10-man gun detachments.
Good to see the army getting state of the art kit. I wonder how old the F2 mortars are? 1960's vintage maybe?
Raven22 said:
That is what I was wondering. Having only two batteries would reduce the number of simulation fire missions. Given the advantages of the new technology, three batteries of four guns just might work.
I see 4th Regiment RAA has only 107 Battery on it's ORBAT with 3 "troops" of 4 guns within the single gun Battery and 3 Observation Post Batteries, whilst 8/12 has 3 gun batteries (101, 102 and 103) with a single Operations Support Battery, whilst 1st Regiment RAA has 1 gun battery with 3 troops of 4 guns (notionally until delivered) and 3 Observation Batteries...
Seems like the RAA is still a bit of a mess during this reorg?
Arty is a mess, but that will happen if you decide to change to a new structure then back to the old one within 3 years. None of the regiments really fully implemented the 'new' structure of one gun battery and three OP batteries. Certainly none ever actually had a third OP battery being manned.
It will take some time to go back to the 'old' structure and for that to once again be reflected in doctrine etc.
It will take some time to go back to the 'old' structure and for that to once again be reflected in doctrine etc.