t68
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I do wonder how the Australians are coping as everything is properly written in Spanish, or would it have both.
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While not exactly the same thing I have toured a Turkish Perry frigate. All the English labels and placards were still in place but usually had a Turkish one next to it.
Also LCS-1 has some Spanish equipment on board and while it was in English it was not very well translated.
Also LCS-1 has some Spanish equipment on board and while it was in English it was not very well translated.
Not so, in any international procurement, one of the conditions of acceptance is that all doco must be provided in English if its not native .
There will be bi-linguals amongst the crowd, but thats also picked up along the way - plus the other side invariably have multi-linguals as well
King Wally
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I noticed today that the first LHD was officially named
Landing Helicopter Dock Ship Officially Named
LINK FAIL (To be able to post links or images your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - Sorry guys... regardless google LHD naming etc and you will see it via the PM's press page)
Story is a couple days old but still cool to see this project is moving along. Acording to the article the ETA for completement is still on track
Landing Helicopter Dock Ship Officially Named
LINK FAIL (To be able to post links or images your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. - Sorry guys... regardless google LHD naming etc and you will see it via the PM's press page)
Story is a couple days old but still cool to see this project is moving along. Acording to the article the ETA for completement is still on track
They are not in the same class. NSM/JSM warhead effects against a ship might even be more significant than Harpoon’s despite being lighter in explosive weight.
Todjaeger
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I was under the impression that one of the features of the Harpoon Block II was an updated warhead, along with the inclusion of developments from the SLAM/SLAM-ER.
While the warhead explosive weight was left roughly the same, I had thought the penetrating blast/frag capabilities had been improved. Is this not the case?
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Only the SLAM-ER (AGM-84H/K) warhead is the 800 lbs WDU-40/B with the titanium casing. All other Harpoon versions including Block II and Block III and the SLAM have the 488 lbs WDU-18/B.
Todjaeger
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Ok, now I am even more confused. I thought that the Block III had been cancelled. Did it get reinstated?
Any ideas on why the warhead for the newer blocks were not updated/upgraded? After all the warhead design at this point is what, 35+ years old?
Hmm... Reading the write-ups on the NAVAIR, I wonder whether some of the information on the Harpoon is accurate. The cost of the SLAM-ER is ~USD$600k, while the Harpoon Block II cost is ~USD$1.2 mil. but everything else in terms of Harpoon performance is that of the original Block I AShM.
Makes me suspect the truth is somewhere between the two.
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Because the warhead is about 50% of the weight of the missile and changing it would require a major rebuild of the system and probably new flight controls, etc. Just adding a few more newer smaller black boxes in place of older larger ones and keeping the weight and CG neutral is a far easier way to upgrade a weapon. SLAM Expanded Response was an entirely new air vehicle with little left over from the original Harpoon so with the clean slate they could add a far more capable warhead. Which was a requirement anyway for the land attack mission.
Don't know what its production status is but the spec for the weapon retained the older 488 lbs warhead.
King Wally
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I was reading this article regarding the testing of UAV's on American Carriers...
US Navy UAV programmes near major milestones
... and got to thinking about the possible benifits and integration that could be utilised via the RAN's LHD's.
I understand that its a futile argument to discuss the use of traditional fixed wing aircraft on the LHD's (fuel/ammo etc would run out in a handfull of missions) however I imagine UAV's of several variants would indeed be a possibility, even armed models with strike capability for example.
How do the rest of you see this little talked about option for the LHD's panning out?
US Navy UAV programmes near major milestones
... and got to thinking about the possible benifits and integration that could be utilised via the RAN's LHD's.
I understand that its a futile argument to discuss the use of traditional fixed wing aircraft on the LHD's (fuel/ammo etc would run out in a handfull of missions) however I imagine UAV's of several variants would indeed be a possibility, even armed models with strike capability for example.
How do the rest of you see this little talked about option for the LHD's panning out?
Definate possibility in the future for the LHD's, not in the same scale or type as on the US Carriers, but UAV's from the LHD's will happen, with many agreeing that the retention of the Ski Jump was the reason.
This subject was heavily discussed on here some time ago, if you do a search back through this thread and also have a read of the following threads, if you have time they are pretty big, it will give you some very good information on the subject of this and also the LHD's and Carrier from an Australian perspective
http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/navy-maritime/sea-trials-lhd-jci-9587/
http://www.defencetalk.com/forums/navy-maritime/hypothetical-carrier-buy-ran-10410/
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King Wally
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$2bn Triton drone plan to track asylum boats off Australia | News.com.au
^ Aparently the Aussie gov is sending a letter of request to look into aquiring the Triton UAV's for maritime patrol.
These UAV's look like the serious end of the spectrum... 100 mill a pop and bloody huge. (picture below)
http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2013/02/21/1226583/049556-triton-drone.jpg
^ Aparently the Aussie gov is sending a letter of request to look into aquiring the Triton UAV's for maritime patrol.
These UAV's look like the serious end of the spectrum... 100 mill a pop and bloody huge. (picture below)
http://resources0.news.com.au/images/2013/02/21/1226583/049556-triton-drone.jpg
10 years later....
ie 10 years ago a company I was employed by made the same proposal to Govt about the benefits of using UAS for surveillance
slow learners.....
we were offering networked small UAV's in a virtual array configuration.
we offered them up as maritime patrol, coastwatch etc and showed that we could offer reductions in operating costs of 75% over a 10 year period.
govt thought that it was too "flash gordon" and wanted to stick with big platform surveillance
So I guess RAAF now has the capacity to "take this project on"?
That was the BS reason this Minister used to delay the project multiple times...
RAAF has always had the capacity to take it on.....
Out of all the Services, they've been the ones who've fiercely protected their use of engineers - and it shows in their decision making...
the road runner
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Just took some photos of the SPS Cantabria in Sydney.
What a good looking ship she is.It was docked at Chowder Bay.
The ship will be around for a few more days.
Makes HMAS Success look like and old hag
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What a good looking ship she is.It was docked at Chowder Bay.
The ship will be around for a few more days.
Makes HMAS Success look like and old hag
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