Well I wonder if this BAE/EADS merger takes place, whether the shipbuilding side of things will get separated off, I not sure it sit that well with BAE, let alone EADS (if it gets approval).
Doubt it, decent earner from a BAE point of view so no way will they let it go.
Nice :lol2
Hmmm...
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Which is why when I was talking about it earlier with respect to the RN, I said that I'd like to see them finishing with Ocean then waiting till Albion/Bulwark finish and combine the tasks operated by all 3 ships into 2 LHDs. Less ships, less specific and still hugely flexible.
Very true, I suppose I just got so used to BAE essentially only building for the RN in the maratime sector, I didn't think about other nations potentially coming to BAE and asking for a mock up. That and it pretty much does look like an Ocean with a well dock
Well, the RN seems to be bucking that trend with the T45/T26+ others, in that whilst they may be getting smaller in number the tonnage per ship is actually increasing, sometimes in a reasonably substantial amount to offset this issue.
Very true, although it wouldn't be too far south of normal to assume that there may be some personnel transfer in a few key jobs in specific areas. Say a BAE employee goes into managing some parts of Airbus or someone from EADS gets plugged into the EF or Hawk programmes, at least I reckon that'll happen at a higher level. Although wouldn't be surprised to see if there was greater mixing on a basic employee level, BAE may have ways of going about things that're more economic than EADS and vice-versa.Reading between the lines this 'merger' isn't quite one company taking over another, it's more, two companies who'll be managed by ONE Board of directors.
The idea being that BAE does X, Y & Z, but EADS does V, W & X.
So both companies KEEP on doing what they are doing, as there is actually very little commonality / cross-over. Whole thing points towards a SINGLE European defence manufacturer who can COMPETE with the likes of BOEING or LOCKHEED-Martin, on a LEVEL playing field.
It's gonna take a whole lot of governmental agreement from Italy, Germany, France, Spain & the UK, (as well as the US), before it can be finalised & according to press coverage I've seen on the web, it' likely to be late Oct 2012, before anyone can find out if it's ACTUALLY gonna go ahead...
Till then, we can all speculate.....
SA
Apologises.Just a little thing, don't need to go too crazy with all the capitalising. I can manage to assimilate text and pick out the key words myself
That's alright, just seemed a bit perculiar when I was reading it
How I remember it was Illustrious acting as an LPH until 2014 when Ocean comes out of a hefty refit and Ocean serving until 2018 although I do hear about some life-extension work meaning possibly until 2022.
No worries, I'm usually the one apologising for being too bolshi, as I often get a bit too focused...
I hope not, being close to the subject matter (i.e. working alongside the RN / RN vessels) means that about 95% of what I speak of has a whole lot of truth in it.Do agree though, one thing it doesn't do it let people get the wrong idea about your writing
That is true. Outside of NATO and their allies, the only airforces capable of sending a couple of squadrons against 1 ship is perhaps limited to Russia and China.
Agreed. You will need several squadrons to attack a group.
I doubt that the UK does, perhaps when a QE is carrying fixed wing aircraft they may have a play a bit more often in terms of attacking ships/defending from air attack but for now I believe it's something the UK doesn't really do, I think.
http://www.newsdeskmedia.com/files/rn-a-global-force-2011-12-ship.pdf
That's "in excess of 30km"/"in excess of 25km", altitude 13km/altitude ?, according to the data sheets. The question is, how much in excess of, in both cases?
MBDA puts it at 30km rather than "in excess of".