Agree but surely intermediate dockings every 2 years and full refit every 4. All ships require hull fittings serviced every 2 years and shafts pulled for inspections, bearings etc every 4 years minimum.
I haven't heard any roumers, got some links? I'd be very interested to read them
Mm...that's a fairly normal cadence for first in class vs last in class ISD's surely? First of the Burke's took almost 18 months from launch to in service.
Hi rob over the years i have talked to many serving personal in the armed forces and i have heared many rumours, not all my infomation is internet basedI haven't heard any roumers, got some links? I'd be very interested to read them
True, but I've always found it difficult to believe hearsay. People come up with some pretty wacky stuff sometimes
Well, some work has already been done in software mods regarding the S8150 VSR, which has the reach for ABM work. Aster 30 can already do the SRBM role so there's a bit of distance to go before we're talking plugging T45 in as a working ABM system. It is possible however.True, but I've always found it difficult to believe hearsay. People come up with some pretty wacky stuff sometimes
Fair enough though. But for me if NATO wanted the T45 for a missile shield or the US were pleased with Darings deployment, I would have thought the T45 fans in the MoD would want people to know just how good the ship was and how valued the system was globally.
Thats good to know, shows the potential for development. MoD better buy more of them when its more economically viable.
Hi rob your comments are fair , but thats why i said If rumours are correct not that it was fact but most of the internet is full of rumours,opinions ,on defence matters theres alot more hearsay than actual fact, i do agree with youTrue, but I've always found it difficult to believe hearsay. People come up with some pretty wacky stuff sometimes
Fair enough though. But for me if NATO wanted the T45 for a missile shield or the US were pleased with Darings deployment, I would have thought the T45 fans in the MoD would want people to know just how good the ship was and how valued the system was globally.
Unlikely - the Sampson has a peak output of about 36Kw - SPY-1 has a peak output of 4 megawatts (which can probably set microwave popcorn off in airliners at 30K feet)
MBDA says that CAMM is designed for vessels of a corvette size or larger so around 2000t, way too big for 200t so it's unlikely that development would happen.
AFAIK it currently uses the same VLS as the Asters on the Daring class so an option with the same philosophy of the Phalanx system is unlikely as i reckon it'd require much more intergration than Phalanx although that being said IIRC it's replacing Rapier so would that be an option? Bolting on a CAMM air defence system of a similar size to Rapier? (i'm not sure on the size difference between Rapier + its CAMM counterpart)
MBDA says it has the ability to target "small naval surface craft" but thats about it, to me it does seem too small to do any serious damage against ships but against land targets? Could be possible but again, unlikely. AFAIK the RN are happy with Harpoon/Tomahawks for land targets.
Merchant regulations are hull inspection at NMT 36 month intervals and twice in a five year period, but only one of those must be out of water (assuming IWS is approved by Class/Flag for the intermediate survey). So drydock (or shiplift etc) is only compulsory every five years.
Actually I was not suggesting it was likely, I was doing a bit of creative thinking about what could be done to give it an edge over say ESSM in the export market.
Not comparing Apples with Apples. Spy-1 is old technology phased array, and the power goes along wave guides (with lots of losses) and then on return goes back through wave guides (with more losses).
CAMM is a soft launch system using a cold gas generator - it happens to fit into Sylver and Mk41 but you can bung it into a trainable box launcher quite easily.
Fair enough, my point is though lets not get too far ahead thinking of other uses for CAMM when its still a relatively juvenile system. Creative thinking is great, hell it's lead to some amazing developments but I have trouble discussing things which I don't think will ever become reality in the defence sector.
which is the tactic which many people tout Iran would most likely use (but i digress)