still black manned aircraft

[lucinator]

Was going through a old nova documentary on the JSF and noticed mention of a Lockheed test pilot who they said at the time had flown a still classified black aircraft. Now I don't know of any aircraft that have been declassified since late 2002 that would meet this requirement?

any suggestions

 

[Heruamarth]

Was going through a old nova documentary on the JSF and noticed mention of a Lockheed test pilot who they said at the time had flown a still classified black aircraft. Now I don't know of any aircraft that have been declassified since late 2002 that would meet this requirement?

any suggestions

No new or unclassified fighter, bomber or interceptor since F-22 and F-35 for the last decade from US, as far as I know.

There have been that "Aurora" talk evers since though, "SR-71 is retired, something new must've been developed." some say. Maybe true, but heard nothing serious about it.

 

[lucinator]

No new or unclassified fighter, bomber or interceptor since F-22 and F-35 for the last decade from US, as far as I know.

There have been that "Aurora" talk evers since though, "SR-71 is retired, something new must've been developed." some say. Maybe true, but heard nothing serious about it.

I don't think the f-35 or f-22 were ever black aircraft.

but the lack of responds to this post intrigues me since I would have thought people would have rumors of black aircraft other than the aurora

 

[Cailet]

Well most of the members here who actually know anything are also signed to their own nation's version of the Official Secrets Act so there's nothing much they can give alas

 

[Heruamarth]

I don't think the f-35 or f-22 were ever black aircraft.

Sure, they aren't. Let me correct my post as, "Only new fighter, bomber or interceptor aircraft from US are F-22 and F-35 in the last two decades, let alone anything black."

 

[Feanor]

How exactly do you think information on still black manned aircraft would find its way onto a public forum?

EDIT: Lets say hypothetically that someone here would be privy to that information. They wouldn't exactly tell you. So the lack of responses to your thread is pretty much tautological to the thread topic.

 

[NICO]

I have always felt since it was declassified that we never got the complete load down on Tacit Blue. :hitwall

Factsheets : Northrop Tacit Blue

This isn't the right forum for this black stuff anyways, true professionals won't talk. I recommend "Above Top Secret", plenty of people have seen all kinds of things in the sky over there and not afraid to talk about it. :rotfl

 

[lucinator]

I have always felt since it was declassified that we never got the complete load down on Tacit Blue. :hitwall

Factsheets : Northrop Tacit Blue

This isn't the right forum for this black stuff anyways, true professionals won't talk. I recommend "Above Top Secret", plenty of people have seen all kinds of things in the sky over there and not afraid to talk about it. :rotfl

whdda ya mean you can see the aircraft, it's at the us air-force museum at Dayton, Ive seen it

PS:apparently it used stealth duct-tape on door hatches. seriously.

 

[lucinator]

How exactly do you think information on still black manned aircraft would find its way onto a public forum?

EDIT: Lets say hypothetically that someone here would be privy to that information. They wouldn't exactly tell you. So the lack of responses to your thread is pretty much tautological to the thread topic.

one im not asking anyone to brake the law, however there are plenty of people not employed in the black aircraft industry or who are sworn not to talk about such aircraft. And most black aircraft were guessed about prior to their being unveiled, such as the SR-71/A-12 or the RQ-170. So there is still room for speculation.

 

[gf0012-aust]

one im not asking anyone to brake the law, however there are plenty of people not employed in the black aircraft industry or who are sworn not to talk about such aircraft. And most black aircraft were guessed about prior to their being unveiled, such as the SR-71/A-12 or the RQ-170. So there is still room for speculation.

I'm a member of an offline group comprised of ex SR-71 and Dragonlady pilots and support staff - they still don't give details of capability to members outside the group, and the photos of the comms systems - even the old layouts are still classified.

we're talking 1957 displays and front ends that are still classified.

most of the stuff "guessed" about the RS/SR-71's even today is internet rubbish.

the RS/SR-71 was not guessed about prior to display - they'd been flying for 5 years in various OxCart guises and nobody knew squat.

 

[gf0012-aust]

that's not true at all several sources state that A-12's and SR-71's were declassified at roughly the same time. also they were in the rumor mill long before they were publicly revealed.

sorry, thats rubbish

the RS/SR-71's did not appear at the same time as one was a legacy of the other because of a mission change.

the rumour mill also trotted out the A-19 - when the F-117 was rolled out 5 years after being in operation it looked nothing like what all the idiots on the internet were claiming

anyone who claims that the RS/SR-71 were fielded at a development level at the same time is talking absolute errant nonsense.

the significant developments made in LO profiling were done with the RS/SR-71. The A-12 never had the fitout - as it was the platform changes made to the habu were accidental. they were deliberately designed in but even johnson and rich never realised the benefits until months later..

as for declassification, I can tell you point blank that when I asked for the release of some material less than two months ago, it came back very clearly that fitout and details of the sensor suites were still privileged material

all comms gear on display at various museums, even today, are gutted and some sensor gear is physically removed. This includes gear dated from the late 50's

 

[gf0012-aust]

one I never claimed anything about the SR-71's LO stealth, so im not sure why you brought it up.

Because the design briefs of the two aircraft were different for a reason. If you don't understand that then you don't understand its history

two i did not say they were developed at the same time I said if you will read my statement was that they were reveled around the same time to the public.

and quite clearly you are wrong. Some of the oxcart iterations were not released for some 7 years after general discussions about the habu.

three. reports of a aircraft using facet tech did exist, you cant just pluck one example out of thin air and assume all rumors and the f-117 were the same.

rubbish. facet management was not a consideration for the A-12, RS/SR-71
facet management is about signal management
both the A-12/F-12 and the RS/SR-71's were designed around different tech sets to enter soviet space. Facet management was not even remotely considered

Rumours on the A-19 or Aurora? feel free to get back to me via a PM when you find anything anywhere on the internet time based on the A-19 where anyone got anything right about the stinkbug. I can tell you point blank that none of the tinfoil brigade got it right - not even remotely

we're done here.