The World Doesn't Have a Pakistan Nukes Problem ... It Has a David Albright Problem

[webmaster]

You are beating around the same bush, without addressing the issue from its starting point, proliferation of nuclear weapons INTO South Asia in 1974. Who, what, where, how, why? Lets catch those culprits, proliferators first before we get on with Pakistan and AQ Khan.

Fissile or not, radioactive material is as bad, all the terrorists have to do is pack enough of it in a bomb and blow it up - its called a dirty bomb.

I usually do not indulge in commentary or discussions with users on the forum, not my thing. I have opinion and way of looking at things (logically and from principle point of view) about issues but I let it go. I see this issue hyped up every single day like its end of the world and I am sick of it. I am sick of hearing about AQ Khan and his ilk and what they did. The fact of the matter is the nuclear black-market is still alive and kicking and it has nationals from ALL countries... try to look beyond your bias and short sightedness and stop repeating the same lie over and over again in hopes that it will be accepted as the truth.

I am sure you have replies prepared in advanced for this and of course with all the "credible" googled up sources. In principle, I think if we are serious about punishing the the countries that proliferate, then why not start from USA and work our way down the list? When it is Pakistan's turn, I will be standing with you in the front-lines asking for the same punishment.

 

[powerslavenegi]

You are beating around the same bush, without addressing the issue from its starting point, proliferation of nuclear weapons INTO South Asia in 1974

Why are you trying to refer to; by this reference to 1974 ? Can you be explicit and let us all on board know as to what exactly was proliferated ? ok you need not provide any link or source for time being.

Fissile or not, radioactive material is as bad, all the terrorists have to do is pack enough of it in a bomb and blow it up - its called a dirty bomb.

The DIRTY bombs are completely different issue they are outside the current topic of discussion i.e. nuclear proliferation. And even for that the products need to come from nuclear reactor in form of bi products or waste.

The Cobalt-60 which you used as an example to support your case is essentially used as a tracer in diagnostic procedures in hospitals it is not suitable for making a DIRTY bomb.

I usually do not indulge in commentary or discussions with users on the forum, not my thing. I have opinion and way of looking at things (logically and from principle point of view) about issues but I let it go. I see this issue hyped up every single day like its end of the world and I am sick of it. I am sick of hearing about AQ Khan and his ilk and what they did. The fact of the matter is the nuclear black-market is still alive and kicking and it has nationals from ALL countries... try to look beyond your bias and short sightedness and stop repeating the same lie over and over again in hopes that it will be accepted as the truth.

That means you have taken this personally ; anyways let me ask for benefit of all on board which are these other countries STILL involved in 'Nuclear Proliferation' ?

I am sure you have replies prepared in advanced for this and of course with all the "credible" googled up sources. In principle, I think if we are serious about punishing the the countries that proliferate, then why not start from USA and work our way down the list? When it is Pakistan's turn, I will be standing with you in the front-lines asking for the same punishment.

I don't have to prepare in advance I am merely replying to your posts as they come.

I have no where talked about punishment , have I ?

If you read my first post on this thread I have merely tried to highlight the fact that concerns regarding Pakistan's nukes in the WEST and rest of the world are based on ground realities of that region which has been witness to heightened terrorist activity .

As for US role in proliferation ; yes it has committed its own share of blunders but then when was it last we heard about US arsenal being at the risk of being taken over by terrorists ?
Or some organization in US trying to nuke some city in some corner of the globe .

 

[webmaster]

Why should I tell you what I mean by 1974 reference? You can only perform google searches on Pakistan? Do your own research.

The world awaits an apology from whoever introduced/proliferated/brought nuclear weapons in south asia. The cancer started from there. When we accept that apology, I will submit a petition asking AQ Khan and co. to apologize as well, they let the world down and put us all in danger for the first time in human nuclear weapons history.

Good day, mate.

 

[mysterious]

1. China's Nuclear Exports and Assistance to Pakistan

And this from US congress itself:

http://italy.usembassy.gov/pdf/other/RL34248.pdf



Clearly states China supplied the complete blueprints for a 25Kt fission device (CHIC-4) to Pakistan in 1983 .


This is a keeper you really don't get it do you ?. No one can make a nuke from Radioactive element unless it is FISSILE and you don't get FISSILE material behind hospitals.

And coming to Al-Qaeda why do they need to depend on Soviet suitcase bomb (which itself is an urban legend). When yet another Pakistan's nuclear scientist is ready to oblige.

Here again:

single - The Jamestown Foundation[tt_news]=4602

So it is not just AQ Khan there are more like him.

Ah yes! China helps Pakistan; its called Proliferation.. The U.S helps France and then both U.S and France blatantly help Israel get nuclear weapons; then its called 'cooperation'. I see how it goes for user 'powerslavenegi'. It appears to me that he's been digesting excessive amounts of Neo-Con literature; given his emphasis on Jamestown Foundation to say the least.

Nuclear proliferation refers proliferation of technology and materials related to making nukes.India never acquired or clandestinely procured any such technology from any country.There is no evidence to back your claim , I asked for a link or a credible source and all you did is banged some keys on your keyboard.

The very fact that India covertly started using a civilian nuclear-reactor from Canada for non-civilian uses and then conducted the so-called 'peaceful' test is enough to ring its neck.

 

[gf0012-aust]

It didn't take too long for this to go off the rails.

to paraphrase the actor:

"goodnight gracie"