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That is not Kaktus and when did it come out that India would adapt Russian designed Arena, or a more advanced Arena system.
PS: Can you tell me the difference in visual between Relikt and Kaktus.
A.Mookerjee
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I would go for either the Apache Longbow, or the Eurocopter Tigre. I prefer the Tigre. I am a big fan of the European aerospace industry. I love both the Boeing and Airbus companies, but prefer the Airbus. The Mirage 2000 is arguably among the best aircraft in the I A F (Indian Air Force), today, after so many years in service.
Ya, I understand the confusion. I got this from a blog. The guy actually took the picture. I did raise what you said with him. he mentioned that the russians presented the tank as the the T 90 with Kaktus ERA i think. You may want to read through the replies as well.
http://trishulgroup.blogspot.com/2009/01/indias-born-again-t-90m-mbt.html
Also The Russian Arena E is not selected. The Indians chose the swedish made LEDS-150 active protection system (APS) for its T 90's.
http://trishulgroup.blogspot.com/2009/03/idas-for-indian-t-90-mbts-selected.html
Sorry, I'm just as confused as you.
Thanks for the link. Did Mr. Sengupta really say that he took the pictures? They come from a site which is hosted by a Ukrainian, known as Harkonnen in some military forums (don't know if he is registered here on defencetalk).
http://btvt.narod.ru/5/rogatka/rogatka.htm
Last year, the Indian Defence Ministry (MOD) has issued a request for proposals (RfP) to purchase 155mm/39-caliber guns. The RfP was sent 14 Jan 2008 to Singapore Technologies Kinetics (STK) and BAE Systems. Following from this news, the beauty contestants have submitted bids in April 2008 and enter trials later this year.
STK also makes the 52-calibre FH-2000 and Primus tracked SP howitzers, both in Singapore Army service. Representatives from both companies have told Jane's that they were negotiating collaborative agreements with local companies to jointly build the howitzers under licence and satisfy the mandatory offset obligation of 30 per cent of the overall contract value. BAE Systems is offering its M777 155 mm/39 calibre towed howitzer, which weighs less than 4,220 kg. STK's rival Pegasus 155 mm/39 calibre lightweight howitzer weighs 5,400 kg and comes with an APU to provide limited mobility after being air lifted.*
*Note: India purchased 80 Mi-171 (also known as the Mi-17V-5) medium lift helicopters (with an 18,000 ft operational ceiling) at a cost of US$1.2 billion and replace 50 Mi-8s currently in service. The new helicopters should arrive in 2010. Further, India operates 4x Mi-26 heavy lift helicopters and are considering adding additional heavy lift helicopters to their inventory.
The Indian army's artillery directorate had already planned to replace all of its existing artillery guns with 155mm howitzers as per a 2000 policy decision after the Kargil battle of 1999, when Swedish Bofors howitzers helped the army evict Muslim fundamentalists backed by Pakistan in the upper reaches of Jammu and Kashmir.
Keep in mind that in Sept 2008, it was reported that according to Julian Scopes, BAE Systems' new president of India operations, the trial requirements had impossibly broad ammunition compatibility requirements -- that the tender required that the gun fielded be capable of firing all available 155mm ammunition in the Indian Army's artillery inventory. Hence BAE had decided that it cannot participate in the tender under the current trial requirements demanded in the MOD's RfP.
The Indian army, of course, is keeping its fingers crossed since it's desperate to begin induction of these guns from 2010-2011 onwards. The Straits Times on 12 March 2009 reports of rumours that STK is the front runner with the Pegasus 155 mm/39 calibre and I wonder if this is true.
STK also makes the 52-calibre FH-2000 and Primus tracked SP howitzers, both in Singapore Army service. Representatives from both companies have told Jane's that they were negotiating collaborative agreements with local companies to jointly build the howitzers under licence and satisfy the mandatory offset obligation of 30 per cent of the overall contract value. BAE Systems is offering its M777 155 mm/39 calibre towed howitzer, which weighs less than 4,220 kg. STK's rival Pegasus 155 mm/39 calibre lightweight howitzer weighs 5,400 kg and comes with an APU to provide limited mobility after being air lifted.*
*Note: India purchased 80 Mi-171 (also known as the Mi-17V-5) medium lift helicopters (with an 18,000 ft operational ceiling) at a cost of US$1.2 billion and replace 50 Mi-8s currently in service. The new helicopters should arrive in 2010. Further, India operates 4x Mi-26 heavy lift helicopters and are considering adding additional heavy lift helicopters to their inventory.
The Indian army's artillery directorate had already planned to replace all of its existing artillery guns with 155mm howitzers as per a 2000 policy decision after the Kargil battle of 1999, when Swedish Bofors howitzers helped the army evict Muslim fundamentalists backed by Pakistan in the upper reaches of Jammu and Kashmir.
(i) the first RfP mentioned above dealt with the acquisition of 140 ultra-light howitzers;
(ii) the second RfP dealt with 180 self-propelled guns; and
(iii) the biggest RfP was for the 155mm 52-calibre towed guns. Under it, India plans to buy 400 guns off-the-shelf and licensed production of another 1,100.
(ii) the second RfP dealt with 180 self-propelled guns; and
(iii) the biggest RfP was for the 155mm 52-calibre towed guns. Under it, India plans to buy 400 guns off-the-shelf and licensed production of another 1,100.
Keep in mind that in Sept 2008, it was reported that according to Julian Scopes, BAE Systems' new president of India operations, the trial requirements had impossibly broad ammunition compatibility requirements -- that the tender required that the gun fielded be capable of firing all available 155mm ammunition in the Indian Army's artillery inventory. Hence BAE had decided that it cannot participate in the tender under the current trial requirements demanded in the MOD's RfP.
The Indian army, of course, is keeping its fingers crossed since it's desperate to begin induction of these guns from 2010-2011 onwards. The Straits Times on 12 March 2009 reports of rumours that STK is the front runner with the Pegasus 155 mm/39 calibre and I wonder if this is true.
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Heh, I may be mistaken. It was probably from another article I was reading there. But he basically visits most of the defence expo all over the world and take most pictures himself.
thunder299
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India should equipped his air force and army with Apache helicopters,the list include only one good chopper.Pakistan also have Apaches,Pakistan also buy Comanches from U.S
1.pakistan does not have apache. They have Ah1 Cobra gunship
2.ka-50, ka-52 and Tiger are formidable.
3.in case of the above mentioned choppers the spares and tech etc. is almost guaranteed. Cant say the same about american equipment. But times are changing.....so the Apache is still very much in the horse race.
The Comanche helicopter programme was cancelled in 2004, before development was complete. Only two prototypes were built.
the programme is on track.
the riffles under consideration right noe are the Excalibur or its derivatives.But if a better riffle is developed say a bullpup design then it may be considered.My point is that whatever riffle it will be it will be indegenous.Its still a long way to go before the F-INSAS is inducted in large no.
backlash92
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can u please explain what each letter means in "Iahat"?
backlash92
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never mind...i diddnt see the old posts till now...dont worry about it
dragonfire
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Aren't the chinese building a attack heli based on the comanche design ??
I doubt it, unless they have very good spies. They may be building an attack helicopter to a superficially similar design, but they'll have to have designed it themselves.
The Tiger is better for the Indian army.
It's more agile than most attack helicopters i think.
the only attack helo that is under development is z-10 and is in all means comparable to Tiger helo not even close to a comanche.