I doubt it was the engine noise causing the vibration rather the effect of the tracks on the ground. The M1 Abrams engine makes a comparatively quiet whining sound. The engine noise isn’t much different between moving and stationary because it’s a fixed rate system (with variable rates). I’m sure you can listen to a sample on YouTube. When the tank is stationary on overwatch an APU is used so the main engine is turned off.
no the leopard was both stationary and later moving and both times me and my eardrums were vibrating.
Foreigners in AUS Army
Hia.
Is here anyone who was not Australian citizen or permanent resident before joining AUS Army ? I am interested in joining the infantry and could use (REALLY REALLY) some help and tips about the process. As I read from their defense forces homepage joining when not a citizen or permanent resident IS possible if I sign a contract to assure that I will apply for permanent resident status or citizenship as soon as possible.
ANYTHING on the subject would be just great ..
TY ahead
Hia.
Is here anyone who was not Australian citizen or permanent resident before joining AUS Army ? I am interested in joining the infantry and could use (REALLY REALLY) some help and tips about the process. As I read from their defense forces homepage joining when not a citizen or permanent resident IS possible if I sign a contract to assure that I will apply for permanent resident status or citizenship as soon as possible.
ANYTHING on the subject would be just great ..
TY ahead
UK military personnel transfer across on a fairly regular basis, they tend to be from specific trades, which are in demand downunder. Do not know of any civi's who have been accepted, without first getting Aussie citizenship.
Know of a few ex-Royal Hong Kong Police and UK Police being recruited for the Aus police, again they are all serving, or ex-serving officers of their respective forces.
Know of a few ex-Royal Hong Kong Police and UK Police being recruited for the Aus police, again they are all serving, or ex-serving officers of their respective forces.
Off the top of my head - I personally know of:
ex RN nuclear submarine drivers who drove RAN subs
ex USN nuke submariners in the RAN
ex Canadian, UK, US, Singaporean, Kiwi's, Indians in the RAAF
there are a whole smattering of ex UK soldiers in the current army - and officer level (strat planning etc...)
Indian, German, UK, Kiwi military scientists
Indian, UK, US, "warcollege" staff
The RAAF is like the old empire training scheme at the moment.
In the Army i served with blokes from all over...Phillipines,South Africa,Rhodesia,New Zealand,Polish,English and even a Swede (who did his conscription as a medic in the Sweedish Army). The Pole had served in The Polish special Forces and the French Forgein Legion,The South African was an ex Para-bat, The several poms from all over, I had an Aussie CSM who served with the RLI in Rhodesia, as well as an officer from Rhodesia who was my first Pl Comander and my last Company comander. There are blokes from all over the globe in the Australian defence forces. Most are ex-military from their mother country though. Also met an ex hunter pilot from Rhodesia who upgraded to Hornets in the RAAF.
Its called lateral recruitment and check out the details here:
http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/recruitmentCentre/overseasApplicants/army.aspx
http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/recruitmentCentre/overseasApplicants/army.aspx
Just like to know about some stuff in Aus Army
Hi, guys. I'm actually a uni student who has australian citizenship and wish to join their defense forces, probably the army.
Just before i join, i wish to ask you guys about the lifestyle in the aus army and about the cultural/racial tolerance in aus defense forces because i'm a Malaysia born chinese.
I know about the 'zero tolerance' policy issued by the defense force, but just like some first hand accounts from people who have been through the training and their services. I have also heard some news about racism in Aus army, that's why i'm curious.
Thanks alot, appreciate any help.
Hi, guys. I'm actually a uni student who has australian citizenship and wish to join their defense forces, probably the army.
Just before i join, i wish to ask you guys about the lifestyle in the aus army and about the cultural/racial tolerance in aus defense forces because i'm a Malaysia born chinese.
I know about the 'zero tolerance' policy issued by the defense force, but just like some first hand accounts from people who have been through the training and their services. I have also heard some news about racism in Aus army, that's why i'm curious.
Thanks alot, appreciate any help.
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Aussie Digger
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I can't speak for Army, but I would suggest any racial intolerance issues within Army are very low level and restricted to a VERY select few persons.
I can state from personal experience that we had a person with a Taiwanese heritage in my regiment when I served and to the best of my knowledge, he never experienced any racist problems whatsoever.
We also had persons of an Aboriginal background, Italians, New Zealanders, English people and a person with a Latin American background and whilst there were certainly jokes and antics, nothing was ever mean-spirited or deliberately intended to hurt or degrade those particular persons.
I never saw anything overtly racist in my time in the Army and expect that anything you've read in the media is restricted to a very few particular persons, most of whom have long since been kicked out of Army.
In any case, you need a bit of "spirit" to be in the Army. Tell the "haters" to go to hell and hook in and do what YOU want to do.
I would personally advise opting for Army, hook in, learn your trade well, do a good job, support your mates and you won't have ANY concerns whatsoever.
Best of luck.
Regards
AD
To Aussie Digger,
Thanks, man. This certainly helps alot and hopefully i can do my bit in giving the AUS Army a better image in the ethnic minorities because i know most of the them distrust the Aus Army and believe the sensationalized media reports of racism.
Thanks again.
Thanks, man. This certainly helps alot and hopefully i can do my bit in giving the AUS Army a better image in the ethnic minorities because i know most of the them distrust the Aus Army and believe the sensationalized media reports of racism.
Thanks again.
There are lots of Asians in the Army. The Army has always been a haven for new immigrants and 2nd generation immigrant kids. Look through the names of the fallen in Vietnam and its wog, skip, skip, wog, skip, skip, wog... The Army now has lots of diggers and junior officers of Asian descent.
However there is one dominant culture in the Australian Army and that is your typical sports mad (Rugby, Cricket, AFL, League - in that order), out-door, beer drinking, blue colour Aussie. You don't have to be a skip but if you're not into this or can't come to terms with it you might be ostracised or uncomfortable.
Check out:
http://www.defence.gov.au/opex/global/opslipper/images/gallery/2008/1023/index.htm
However there is one dominant culture in the Australian Army and that is your typical sports mad (Rugby, Cricket, AFL, League - in that order), out-door, beer drinking, blue colour Aussie. You don't have to be a skip but if you're not into this or can't come to terms with it you might be ostracised or uncomfortable.
Check out:
http://www.defence.gov.au/opex/global/opslipper/images/gallery/2008/1023/index.htm
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winnyfield
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I remember my time at the recruitment office; wog, skip, asian, black african, polynesian, everyone was represented.
+ also women
+ also women
I am willing to bet under fire your squad isn't going to give a **** about your skin colour they are going to wanna know if you can cover them or not. Basic Training might be hard because people are ignorant but one you build up a relationship with them, there shouldn't be anything.
On another note, is the Aus Army investing into any active protection systems? The ones on the STK bronco for the british army look very promising.
On another note, is the Aus Army investing into any active protection systems? The ones on the STK bronco for the british army look very promising.
I'm not in the ARA (Australian Regular Army) myself, but I have lived in Australia all my life. The truth is that some (keyword) aspects of our society are rather rascist, and there are incidences of discrimination towards Australia's native inhabitants, the Aborigines, and those of a non white Caucasian descent. However from what I have heard, the ARA targets racism and discrimination more than most Western military forces.
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The military is by nature a p*ss taking organisation built on comradeship, which requires in most cases a thick skin. Sarcasm and dark humour plays a major part in the culture, so don't be put off by mickey taking, which may at times be construed as being a bit racist. For example you will probably be awarded a nick-name early on in your service, some are common, being called 'Dinger', when your surnames 'Bell' for example. Also it was quite common in my time for coloured/black soldiers to be called 'snowy' regardless of thier surname (never objected), and I also know of an ethnic Chinese being called 'jacky' (after the actor Chan).
ok so you pointed out some aspects of australian society are rather racist and you also pointed out that the ara does more than most western militaries to stamp it out,so without dwelling too much on this subject on account its a military forum as opposed to a left leaning grievance forum,whats your point?was it a input as far as the question by sadyoda or was it just your ideology speaking.if the latter then theres other forums for that.
Thanks alot, guys. Seems like army's the place for me, with all the dark humor and sarcasm, i would surely love it (no sarcasm or other meaning intended here, because i really do love it and i have always been a sarcastic dickhead to my friends, in a friendly way).
It seems like the all i have to do now is to merge into the sporting culture of AUS like rugby and cricket, but i guess i will cope well since i have lived with other Aussie blokes who were obsessive with them before. Something that raise my interest from all the replies is that it seems like 'wog', people from middle eastern background, seems to have a sizable representation in the AUS army than other ethnics. Is that true?
Thanks heaps for all the help, dudes.
It seems like the all i have to do now is to merge into the sporting culture of AUS like rugby and cricket, but i guess i will cope well since i have lived with other Aussie blokes who were obsessive with them before. Something that raise my interest from all the replies is that it seems like 'wog', people from middle eastern background, seems to have a sizable representation in the AUS army than other ethnics. Is that true?
Thanks heaps for all the help, dudes.