Burunsuzoglu
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How do you invade your sovereign territory?
can some1 give me a quick leason on South Ossetia?
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Background:
[1991-1992: Civil War in South Ossetia, and pretty much Georgia as a whole]
November 1991 - Russian Parliament threatens Georgia with economic sanctions if failed to take steps to end the conflict and restore South Ossetia’s autonomy.
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24 June 1992 - Shevardnadze and Yeltsin meets to discuss the question of South Ossetia and agree in principle on a cease-fire and the establishment of a Joint Control Commission.
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14 July 1992 - Russian peace-keeping operation starts (three-sided peace-keeping forces - Russians, Georgians and South Ossetians) upon agreement between Russian government, the Georgian State Council and of the Supreme Soviet of South Ossetia.
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8 October 1993 - Georgia joins the Commonwealth of Independent States (SNG) and makes agreement on Russian military bases in Georgia.
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15 August 1994 - CSCE (OSCE) proposal for a framework for a constitutional model as a political solution for the Georgian - South Ossetian conflict. The proposal is rejected by both parties.
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May 1996 - Shevardnadze and the South Ossetian leader Ludwig Chibirov sign a ‘Memorandum on measures for providing security and joint confidence’ in which the two sides renounce the use of force.
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Hence why:
a) no Georgian forces in South Ossetia (other than some police working jointly with South Ossetian units)
b) some 500 Russian peacekeepers in South Ossetia
c) independant official South-Ossetian militia
d) defined (and checked) border between Georgia and semi-autonomous region of South Ossetia
Georgia sent units across this border, violating the 1996 memorandum, attempting to occupy South Ossetia militarily, and in the process attacking and isolating Russian peacekeeping units; Russia officially uses these attacks to militarily "re-open" LOC and LOS to its peacekeeping forces in South Ossetia, and removes all "threats" to this peacekeeping force.
[1991-1992: Civil War in South Ossetia, and pretty much Georgia as a whole]
November 1991 - Russian Parliament threatens Georgia with economic sanctions if failed to take steps to end the conflict and restore South Ossetia’s autonomy.
[...]
24 June 1992 - Shevardnadze and Yeltsin meets to discuss the question of South Ossetia and agree in principle on a cease-fire and the establishment of a Joint Control Commission.
[...]
14 July 1992 - Russian peace-keeping operation starts (three-sided peace-keeping forces - Russians, Georgians and South Ossetians) upon agreement between Russian government, the Georgian State Council and of the Supreme Soviet of South Ossetia.
[...]
8 October 1993 - Georgia joins the Commonwealth of Independent States (SNG) and makes agreement on Russian military bases in Georgia.
[...]
15 August 1994 - CSCE (OSCE) proposal for a framework for a constitutional model as a political solution for the Georgian - South Ossetian conflict. The proposal is rejected by both parties.
[...]
May 1996 - Shevardnadze and the South Ossetian leader Ludwig Chibirov sign a ‘Memorandum on measures for providing security and joint confidence’ in which the two sides renounce the use of force.
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Hence why:
a) no Georgian forces in South Ossetia (other than some police working jointly with South Ossetian units)
b) some 500 Russian peacekeepers in South Ossetia
c) independant official South-Ossetian militia
d) defined (and checked) border between Georgia and semi-autonomous region of South Ossetia
Georgia sent units across this border, violating the 1996 memorandum, attempting to occupy South Ossetia militarily, and in the process attacking and isolating Russian peacekeeping units; Russia officially uses these attacks to militarily "re-open" LOC and LOS to its peacekeeping forces in South Ossetia, and removes all "threats" to this peacekeeping force.
DefConGuru
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Well Georgia was flexing it's muscles for NATO consideration because they thought they would Blitzkrieg Ossetia like it was 1939 and gain considerable international acclaim but the plan backfired.
An interesting quote from the Georgian leader during a press conference regarding the conflict,
"We are also fighting for a future world order."
Translation : American approved and certified.
An interesting quote from the Georgian leader during a press conference regarding the conflict,
"We are also fighting for a future world order."
Translation : American approved and certified.
Burunsuzoglu
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Thank you for giving us the Russian propaganda, but the reality is Russia has being baiting Georgia for weeks (encroaching Georgian air space, taking out UAVs etc...). In any event France and Germany (with hypocrisy) had already blocked their entrance to NATO, thereby inviting Russia to go as far as they did.
Latest news is, Russians have completely taken Gori (looting and robbing refugees), and at least 60 Russian vehicles were seen heading South on the Tbilisi Road.
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