Russian MiG's in Sudan ..... Again?

Feanor

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flyer19999 said:
The following states that Iran procured a limited number of S-300PMU-1 missiles in 1993, the link is below. Before jumping to conclusions the article is paragraph eight so please read long enough to get to the article::eek:nfloorl:


http://missilethreat.com/missiledefensesystems/id.50/system_detail.asp
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First off the source is a cnp of different time periods. If you're interested MDB has a comprehensive list of Russiand AD systems export. Second off SAM's are not the main part of russian military export, aircraft are. The source also does not specifically claim that Iran has the missile. It merely speculates that it's possible. It's not evidence.

http://mdb.cast.ru/mdb/1-2008/item4/article2/
 
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Frm your link:

Iran to Buy Russian Weapons

Referring to U.S. concern over Russian arms sales to Iran, Russian President Putin noted that profits from such military deals was measured by their "foreign policy consequences."

Defense analysts note that Iran is likely to be the third-largest importer of Russian weapons, behind China and India. In 2001 Iran acquired a limited number of Russian SA-10C Grumble surface-to-air missiles. The missiles are reportedly stationed outside Tehran. Iranian armed forces personnel have traveled to Moscow to receive training on the SA-10 system.

Iranian Defense Minister Ali Shamkhjani noted during a recent visit to Moscow that future large purchases of Russian weapons are in the works.

http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/1/9/154806.shtml
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And what you wrote:

flyer19999 said:
Another link stating Iran received two S-300C missiles systems in 2003 and they were placed near Tehran. Also our (USA) government has stated that there are two S-300C missile systems around Tehran. Item is about five or six paragraphs down article. Additionally, the USA comment was confirmed by satellite imagery.


http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2002/1/9/154806.shtml
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Sorry, they don't have them. It's a circular reference.
 
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I've got a better one. What does it matter, for practical purposes, if Iran has two S-300's? They might as well have 0. The only way that the S-300 is even remotely an argument, is if Iran has it in numbers, to provide redundant coverage, and within a supporting system. Even if it has a handful of assembled from bought spare components, systems, they will make no difference.
 
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Sorry to bring this thread back, but I ran into two interesting articles from newsru.com and arms-tass.su which both mentioned that Russia has completed delivery of 12 MiG-29 of an unspecified variant to Sudan. I can't seem to figure out whether this is the completion of the 2004 contract, which I thought had already been completed, or whether this is indeed a different contract. The articles also mention a team of Russian specialists that are working in Sudan with the Sudanese government.

This comes immediately after Sudan unilaterally announced a ceasefire in Darfur. I hope this ceasefire is upheld, which is quite likely given the genocide charges being leveled against Sudanese officials.

http://newsru.com/world/14nov2008/12migs.html
http://arms-tass.su/?page=article&aid=62673&cid=24

EDIT: Here's another article with more of the same.

http://www.arms-expo.ru/site.xp/049056050057124053049049057.html
 
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But is it the same deal that was mentioned earlier? Or a different one? Remember Russia has already signed for sure one deal with Fulcrums, and those Fulcrums have already participated in combat. One was even shot down. Is this a second batch? Does Sudan now fly two squadrons of 12? Or is this simply a notice of completion of the same deal?
 
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I think the second. And even more I think that Rosoboronexport will reject this info or even won't comment it. But if soon Ru oil-companies wiil get some new contracts in Sudan then may be it is the second squadron =) At least I haven't found any other info
 
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