Russia-Iranian Alliance

[PullerRommel]

Ive been looking for info on a Russian-Iranian Military Alliance. I cant find anything on here about it and when i go on google i just find a whole bunch of references to the Bible. Does anyone have any links to it or is it false.

Thank you

 

[Feanor]

It's false from what I know. The only alliance is observer status for Iran in the SOC.

 

[BuSOF]

A practical undercover alliance is present for more than 20 years. And that is more than enough. If you are looking for something written on paper you wont find it. None of those two needs a written agreement. They go along pretty well without it.

 

[Feanor]

Oh yes. Really well. Especially since Russia decided to enforce the U.N. sanctions against Iran.

 

[eckherl]

A practical undercover alliance is present for more than 20 years. And that is more than enough. If you are looking for something written on paper you wont find it. None of those two needs a written agreement. They go along pretty well without it.

And just what does this covert Alliance consist of, I figured that China would have more of a Alliance with Iran versus Russia.

 

[SABRE]

And just what does this covert Alliance consist of, I figured that China would have more of a Alliance with Iran versus Russia.

This 20 year old covert alliance consists Iran supporting Shia Mujahidins in the West & north-West Afghanistan against the USSR. Russia/USSR supporting Iraq against Iran in 8year war, amongst other things.

 

[eckherl]

This 20 year old covert alliance consists Iran supporting Shia Mujahidins in the West & north-West Afghanistan against the USSR. Russia/USSR supporting Iraq against in Iran in 8year war, amongst other things.

Interesting, looks like a good research project. Thanks for the information.

 

[ROCK45]

Alliance

I don't think either China or Russian had a stronger enough alliance with Iran in general look at Iran's poorly equipped air force, Kuwait has a better AF. Sanctions have hurt there armed forces badly I think equipment wise Iran isn't in good shape. Aircraft wise there Su-24s might be there best platform. I don't share the same faith as others do in there 20+ year old F-14s. Ten years ago some how Iran should have got Su-30s or large numbers of Mig-29s from Russia now there far behind. A handful of Mig-29A Fulcrums don't cut it no matter how you look at or those F-5 paste ons.

 

[SABRE]

Interesting, looks like a good research project. Thanks for the information.

Its just a factual sarcasm.

20 years back there was no Russian Federation, there was USSR.

Iran-USSR did not have any good relations. The moment Iran sensed USSR was going to fall apart it started its ambitious games in Central Asia - particularly in Azerbaijan and Tajikistan (There is a large Azari population in North-Western Iran, while Tajiks are sunni Persians). The ambition of Iran kept Russia & Iran relations at bey for a long time after the collapse of USSR. The relation between the two are rather recent and were developed by former President Khatami who took charge in 1997. Khatami made good friends with China & Russia & kept Europe and American divided on Iran (an old great game method developed by Afghanistan).

So ... the origins of Russia-Iran or even Iran-China friendship should date back to 1997 not 20 years back. And anyone coming up with such claims is perhaps being fooled by the CIA propaganda.

I don't think either China or Russian had a stronger enough alliance with Iran in general look at Iran's poorly equipped air force, Kuwait has a better AF. Sanctions have hurt there armed forces badly I think equipment wise Iran isn't in good shape. Aircraft wise there Su-24s might be there best platform. I don't share the same faith as others do in there 20+ year old F-14s. Ten years ago some how Iran should have got Su-30s or large numbers of Mig-29s from Russia now there far behind. A handful of Mig-29A Fulcrums don't cut it no matter how you look at or those F-5 paste ons.

Its very hard for Iranian airforce to shift to non-Western weapons. Before the revolution they were largest recipient of US weapons (I believe). Even today they prefer to reverse engineer F-5 than go for newer aircrafts. However, there has been a shift. There are signals of Iran going for either more MiG-29 or Su-30s. China might also offer J-10 to Iran once WS-10 is ready. Fingers crossed, lets see.

 

[BuSOF]

This 20 year old covert alliance consists Iran supporting Shia Mujahidins in the West & north-West Afghanistan against the USSR. Russia/USSR supporting Iraq against Iran in 8year war, amongst other things.

Yes. And also Russia supplying cutting-edge technology (i.e. nuclear powerplants, the plant in Bushehr may not be the latest technology, but it sure is to Iran), and also supplying modern weaponry despite arms embargoes, and russian diplomacy supporting Iran by any mean possible and most importnatly in the UNSC.

Its very hard for Iranian airforce to shift to non-Western weapons. Before the revolution they were largest recipient of US weapons (I believe). Even today they prefer to reverse engineer F-5 than go for newer aircrafts. However, there has been a shift. There are signals of Iran going for either more MiG-29 or Su-30s. China might also offer J-10 to Iran once WS-10 is ready. Fingers crossed, lets see.

No, it is no for a wealthy country. Especially for Iran. You make uop your mind and you do it. Financial problems for Iran come from the fact that Teheran is not streamlined in its politics and financial ties. They try to shift between differernt world powers every 2 to 3 years and that makes s lot of problems. As for the Air Force the problem is not that the IRIAF cannot shift to russian weapons and because of that they mix their inventory. Problem is that the insist on developing modern aircraft manifacturing industry. Russians are not ready to share their latest secrets with Iran. SO th eonly thing left is to reverse-engineer western (US) fighter projects like the F-5. But to do so you need to stick to that type in your inventory. So it is not hard. Iranians are making it hard themselves.

 

[Feanor]

Yes. And also Russia supplying cutting-edge technology (i.e. nuclear powerplants, the plant in Bushehr may not be the latest technology, but it sure is to Iran), and also supplying modern weaponry despite arms embargoes, and russian diplomacy supporting Iran by any mean possible and most importnatly in the UNSC.

Garbage. The only recent weapon sale was the 29 Tors. Laughable in scale. And recently Russia has joined in on the U.N. sanctions.

No, it is no for a wealthy country. Especially for Iran. You make uop your mind and you do it. Financial problems for Iran come from the fact that Teheran is not streamlined in its politics and financial ties. They try to shift between differernt world powers every 2 to 3 years and that makes s lot of problems. As for the Air Force the problem is not that the IRIAF cannot shift to russian weapons and because of that they mix their inventory. Problem is that the insist on developing modern aircraft manifacturing industry. Russians are not ready to share their latest secrets with Iran. SO th eonly thing left is to reverse-engineer western (US) fighter projects like the F-5. But to do so you need to stick to that type in your inventory. So it is not hard. Iranians are making it hard themselves.

Lack of money is definetly a problem for Iran. The cost of modern Russian fighter jets is very high (compared to domestic F-5 clones). Iran does not have the billions it needs to invest to modernize it's air force.

 

[Ibizan Hound]

Russia and Iran are not allied.