I feel the same way about the British and French CVF. The only problem is where does the cash come from? Adding nuclear reactors, notice the s, s for plural, will double the price of the carrier.
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I feel the same way about the British and French CVF. The only problem is where does the cash come from? Adding nuclear reactors, notice the s, s for plural, will double the price of the carrier.
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INS Kesri commissioned today, 05 April 08, at the Naval Base at Visakhapatnam
Guys some new inductions in Indian Navy:
http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItem...&Title=Southern+News+-+Andhra+Pradesh&Topic=0
http://www.indiaenews.com/pressrelease/20080406/109321.htm
INS Kesri commissioned today, 05 April 08, at the Naval Base at Visakhapatnam
GRSE is a premier Indian Defence Shipyard and specializes in construction of Landing Ship Tank (Large) for the Indian Navy in addition to other classes of Warships. One of such follow on ships, GRSE Yard 3015 (Kesari) was handed over to the Indian Navy on 21 Feb 08 at Kolkata. She has now been commissioned today, 05April 08 at the Naval Base at Visakhapatnam by His Excellency Shri Narayan Datt Tiwari, the Hon’ble Governor of Andhra Pradesh and dedicated to the service of the Navy. The occasion was graced by VAdm RP Suthan, AVSM, VSM, FOC-in-C, East, VAdm Dilip Deshpande, AVSM, VSM, Controller of Warship Production & Acquisition, IHQ MOD(Navy), RAdm T S Ganeshan, NM, VSM, IN(Retd), Chairman & Managing Director GRSE, senior officers from the services and other distinguished guests.
The earlier ships of the class viz. INS Magar, INS Gharial and INS Shardul were successfully delivered to the Indian Navy by GRSE in the past. The basic design of the ship was evolved by Directorate of Naval Design at Integrated Headquarters of MoD (Navy), New Delhi. Design modifications of the ship have been carried out by GRSE. The Project is managed by the Directorate of Ship Production at IHQ MoD (Navy).
This new ship Kesari, like her predecessors, will be an important amphibious warfare ship carrying Landing Craft Assault, battle tanks, army vehicles and troops. The ship is capable of beaching for disembarkation of these vehicles and army troops. The new ship has several upgradation in terms of better performance, maintainability, enhanced air-conditioned accommodation for troops and additional inner Bow Door as per latest classification rules. The ship is also provided with helicopter staging facilities for SEAKING MK 42C helicopter or indigenously built Dhruv helicopter.
The new ship Kesari is also fitted with modern electronic equipment. She will have two WM 18 Rocket Launcher mountings and CRN 91 Guns.
The ship has an indigenous content of over 90% with the state-of-the-art equipment such as main engines, gearbox, CPP system, steering gear, air-conditioning and refrigeration plants, power generation and distribution system manufactured in the country. The ship is 124.8 meters long and 17.5 meters broad and will have a deep displacement of 5600 tonnes. The ship can carry 12 main battle tanks, 10 Army vehicles and 500 troops for amphibious operations and is capable of achieving a speed of 15.8 knots. The ship is fully equipped to safeguard the maritime interest of the country.
The ship ‘KESARI’ from to-day is dedicated to the service with the Indian Navy. Commissioning of the ship ‘KESARI’ is yet another milestone in the history of GRSE who had been actively contributing to the defence preparedness of the country.
Guys some new inductions in Indian Navy:
http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItem...&Title=Southern+News+-+Andhra+Pradesh&Topic=0
http://www.indiaenews.com/pressrelease/20080406/109321.htm
INS Kesri commissioned today, 05 April 08, at the Naval Base at Visakhapatnam
GRSE is a premier Indian Defence Shipyard and specializes in construction of Landing Ship Tank (Large) for the Indian Navy in addition to other classes of Warships. One of such follow on ships, GRSE Yard 3015 (Kesari) was handed over to the Indian Navy on 21 Feb 08 at Kolkata. She has now been commissioned today, 05April 08 at the Naval Base at Visakhapatnam by His Excellency Shri Narayan Datt Tiwari, the Hon’ble Governor of Andhra Pradesh and dedicated to the service of the Navy. The occasion was graced by VAdm RP Suthan, AVSM, VSM, FOC-in-C, East, VAdm Dilip Deshpande, AVSM, VSM, Controller of Warship Production & Acquisition, IHQ MOD(Navy), RAdm T S Ganeshan, NM, VSM, IN(Retd), Chairman & Managing Director GRSE, senior officers from the services and other distinguished guests.
The earlier ships of the class viz. INS Magar, INS Gharial and INS Shardul were successfully delivered to the Indian Navy by GRSE in the past. The basic design of the ship was evolved by Directorate of Naval Design at Integrated Headquarters of MoD (Navy), New Delhi. Design modifications of the ship have been carried out by GRSE. The Project is managed by the Directorate of Ship Production at IHQ MoD (Navy).
This new ship Kesari, like her predecessors, will be an important amphibious warfare ship carrying Landing Craft Assault, battle tanks, army vehicles and troops. The ship is capable of beaching for disembarkation of these vehicles and army troops. The new ship has several upgradation in terms of better performance, maintainability, enhanced air-conditioned accommodation for troops and additional inner Bow Door as per latest classification rules. The ship is also provided with helicopter staging facilities for SEAKING MK 42C helicopter or indigenously built Dhruv helicopter.
The new ship Kesari is also fitted with modern electronic equipment. She will have two WM 18 Rocket Launcher mountings and CRN 91 Guns.
The ship has an indigenous content of over 90% with the state-of-the-art equipment such as main engines, gearbox, CPP system, steering gear, air-conditioning and refrigeration plants, power generation and distribution system manufactured in the country. The ship is 124.8 meters long and 17.5 meters broad and will have a deep displacement of 5600 tonnes. The ship can carry 12 main battle tanks, 10 Army vehicles and 500 troops for amphibious operations and is capable of achieving a speed of 15.8 knots. The ship is fully equipped to safeguard the maritime interest of the country.
The ship ‘KESARI’ from to-day is dedicated to the service with the Indian Navy. Commissioning of the ship ‘KESARI’ is yet another milestone in the history of GRSE who had been actively contributing to the defence preparedness of the country.
Very nice LST, reminds me of LSTs of the past. Several of these would be handy for any nation. What is great about them is that they don't cost a leg and an arm, they are cheap compared to frigates and destroyers. Power projection delivering the goods to the beach.
Of course, ships like these working in concert with the former Trenton, make for a very good amphibious capability. Better yet would be ships like these working with a French Mistral. I wish the Indians further success.
Of course, ships like these working in concert with the former Trenton, make for a very good amphibious capability. Better yet would be ships like these working with a French Mistral. I wish the Indians further success.
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As well as Shardul & Kesari, India has a couple of very similar ships built in the 1980s & 1990s, Magar & Gharial. They're based on the old British Round Table class, as used in the Falklands.
lol i would have gon with the USN kitty hawk
its batter deal i think i know it too large but it would work
upgrade it to nuke reactor and u have a deal it would cost more
i think but it would be a nice deal nuke reactor dont need refueling
they last for 10-20 years so the deal
just think about it
i know it old but a over hull can help extend its life
its batter deal i think i know it too large but it would work
upgrade it to nuke reactor and u have a deal it would cost more
i think but it would be a nice deal nuke reactor dont need refueling
they last for 10-20 years so the deal
just think about it
i know it old but a over hull can help extend its life
:unknownWhen all have been said and done, the Kitty Hawk was not for sale. Thus India is back to the beginning, building a carrier, thinking about doing so again, and buying a Russian one. The idea is to have three carriers, one to the west and one to the east, with another one in refit.
niteshkjain
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Coming: India-make N-sub
Friday April 11 2008 09:11 IST
Hemanth Kumar
BALASORE: INDIA is now working on its first-ever nuclear powered submarine dubbed as advanced technology vessel (ATV) to test the submarine launched ballistic missiles (SLBMs) under sea.
A top naval official on condition of anonymity disclosed that the first of the three 6,000-tonne ATVs will be ‘ready to go to sea’ for trials by early 2009.
“If the trials go well, it could be inducted into service within two years,” he said on Thursday.
The ATV would be India’s first indigenous nuclear-powered submarine and India’s first submarine able to fire nuclear-armed missiles. Though India began developing nuclear-powered submarines in the 70s, but their development was delayed due to some technical snags.
“Now three indigenous nuclear-powered submarines are being built at Visakhapatnam under the ATV project, whose overall cost will be around Rs 20,000 crore,” he informed.
As India doesn’t have a nuclear-powered submarine and for that reason Pontoon (replica of a submarine) was used during the test of the SLBM K-15 last month. Though India has about 20 submarines but all are diesel-powered.
Sources said when integrated with the ATV, the K-15 missile will give the country second- strike capabilities.
“Though the ATV is designed to carry at least 12 vertical-launched nuclear- tipped SLBMs or SLCMs but it will take some time for the K-15 to be integrated with,” said a defence scientist.
Once the ATV is ready, India will finally achieve its long-standing aim to have an operational ‘nuclear weapon triad’ because fighters like Sukhoi-30MKI and Mirage-2000s,which can be rigged to carry nuclear weapons already constitute the air-based leg.
This apart, in a joint collaboration with Russia, India has also produced the submarine launched version of the BrahMos cruise missile.
But it is waiting for a necessary platform (submarine) for trial because Indian navy’s Russian-made Kilo-class submarines and the German-designed HDW submarines do not have the capability to fire cruise missiles, the sources informed.
Meanwhile, the DRDO has also developed extensive expertise in launching long-range missiles from mobile and railway launchers. This allows the missiles to be scattered all over India before being moved to a launch site by road or rail.
http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IEQ20080410225004&Page=Q&Title=ORISSA&Topic=0
Friday April 11 2008 09:11 IST
Hemanth Kumar
BALASORE: INDIA is now working on its first-ever nuclear powered submarine dubbed as advanced technology vessel (ATV) to test the submarine launched ballistic missiles (SLBMs) under sea.
A top naval official on condition of anonymity disclosed that the first of the three 6,000-tonne ATVs will be ‘ready to go to sea’ for trials by early 2009.
“If the trials go well, it could be inducted into service within two years,” he said on Thursday.
The ATV would be India’s first indigenous nuclear-powered submarine and India’s first submarine able to fire nuclear-armed missiles. Though India began developing nuclear-powered submarines in the 70s, but their development was delayed due to some technical snags.
“Now three indigenous nuclear-powered submarines are being built at Visakhapatnam under the ATV project, whose overall cost will be around Rs 20,000 crore,” he informed.
As India doesn’t have a nuclear-powered submarine and for that reason Pontoon (replica of a submarine) was used during the test of the SLBM K-15 last month. Though India has about 20 submarines but all are diesel-powered.
Sources said when integrated with the ATV, the K-15 missile will give the country second- strike capabilities.
“Though the ATV is designed to carry at least 12 vertical-launched nuclear- tipped SLBMs or SLCMs but it will take some time for the K-15 to be integrated with,” said a defence scientist.
Once the ATV is ready, India will finally achieve its long-standing aim to have an operational ‘nuclear weapon triad’ because fighters like Sukhoi-30MKI and Mirage-2000s,which can be rigged to carry nuclear weapons already constitute the air-based leg.
This apart, in a joint collaboration with Russia, India has also produced the submarine launched version of the BrahMos cruise missile.
But it is waiting for a necessary platform (submarine) for trial because Indian navy’s Russian-made Kilo-class submarines and the German-designed HDW submarines do not have the capability to fire cruise missiles, the sources informed.
Meanwhile, the DRDO has also developed extensive expertise in launching long-range missiles from mobile and railway launchers. This allows the missiles to be scattered all over India before being moved to a launch site by road or rail.
http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IEQ20080410225004&Page=Q&Title=ORISSA&Topic=0
niteshkjain
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Where N-subs come to roost
Link: http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IEX20080411160937&Title=Kochi&rLink=0
KOCHI: Adding to the strategic import of South India, the Indian Navy is setting up its strategic nuclear base at Rambilli near Vishakaptanam in Andhra Pradesh.
Work on this highly classified project is expected to be over by 2011. All submarines, conventional and nuclear, of the Indian Navy will be moved to this base once it’s completed.
Top sources told Express that Advanced Tactical Vessels, the Indian nuclear submarines expected to dive by 2010, will be the first residents of the base, where they will be moved from the nearby Shipbuilding Centre. The advanced sea trials of the ATVs will be controlled from the new base after the induction of the crew, who are currently undergoing simulator training, is done.
The salient feature of this base will be its channel with enough depth to allow a submarine to remain submerged while approaching or leaving the base. This will thicken the cloak of secrecy covering underwater operations, crucial to inflicting a second strike in case of a nuclear war outbreak.
Once complete, Rambilli will control all operations in the eastern theatre which is getting interesting with the fast modernisation of the Chinese Navy. China already operates 10 nuclear submarines, each carrying 12 missiles. The base is also crucial given the increasing Indian involvement in the east, especially its growing ties with Singapore.
More than the firepower it gives the Navy, Rambilli completes the South Indian role in India’s future plans vis-à-vis deployment of nuclear assets. It also marks the first major futuristic naval initiative on the east coast with the Ezhimala Naval Academy and the Seabird base at Karwar, diagonally south of Rambilli, taking care of the west coast.
"But Rambilli will be bigger, much bigger, than Karwar. The latter will be home to mainline battleships berthed safely beneath several tiers of security including an e-fence as the first line of defence. Rambilli will house all nuclear-powered submarines," sources said.
With this South India will be home to two arms of the N-triad. The Air Force is already accelerating work on its base in Thiruvananthapuram in Kerala, to be the first India Air and Space Base co-ordinating the second strike possibility. This apart, DRDO has already identified many sick State-owned PSUs in South India that it can enter into joint ventures with for fabrication and assembly of advanced weapons.
Link: http://www.newindpress.com/NewsItems.asp?ID=IEX20080411160937&Title=Kochi&rLink=0
KOCHI: Adding to the strategic import of South India, the Indian Navy is setting up its strategic nuclear base at Rambilli near Vishakaptanam in Andhra Pradesh.
Work on this highly classified project is expected to be over by 2011. All submarines, conventional and nuclear, of the Indian Navy will be moved to this base once it’s completed.
Top sources told Express that Advanced Tactical Vessels, the Indian nuclear submarines expected to dive by 2010, will be the first residents of the base, where they will be moved from the nearby Shipbuilding Centre. The advanced sea trials of the ATVs will be controlled from the new base after the induction of the crew, who are currently undergoing simulator training, is done.
The salient feature of this base will be its channel with enough depth to allow a submarine to remain submerged while approaching or leaving the base. This will thicken the cloak of secrecy covering underwater operations, crucial to inflicting a second strike in case of a nuclear war outbreak.
Once complete, Rambilli will control all operations in the eastern theatre which is getting interesting with the fast modernisation of the Chinese Navy. China already operates 10 nuclear submarines, each carrying 12 missiles. The base is also crucial given the increasing Indian involvement in the east, especially its growing ties with Singapore.
More than the firepower it gives the Navy, Rambilli completes the South Indian role in India’s future plans vis-à-vis deployment of nuclear assets. It also marks the first major futuristic naval initiative on the east coast with the Ezhimala Naval Academy and the Seabird base at Karwar, diagonally south of Rambilli, taking care of the west coast.
"But Rambilli will be bigger, much bigger, than Karwar. The latter will be home to mainline battleships berthed safely beneath several tiers of security including an e-fence as the first line of defence. Rambilli will house all nuclear-powered submarines," sources said.
With this South India will be home to two arms of the N-triad. The Air Force is already accelerating work on its base in Thiruvananthapuram in Kerala, to be the first India Air and Space Base co-ordinating the second strike possibility. This apart, DRDO has already identified many sick State-owned PSUs in South India that it can enter into joint ventures with for fabrication and assembly of advanced weapons.
Besides the port at Vishakaptanam there doesn't seem to be any area suitable for a deepwater port in the area close to Rambilli. A submarine base of the magnitude described in the article will be a tremendous undertaking indeed.
with the development of the sethusamudram canal project,it will give indian navy tremendous flexibility,it will also ensure a rapid distribution of assets in the event of a war,i believe that once the scp is completed indian navy may build a third naval base at tuticorin,smaller than the other two.
niteshkjain
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Good book:
About Indian quest for Blue Water navy
http://www.jmss.org/2008/winter/articles/scott.pdf
Quite informative
About Indian quest for Blue Water navy
http://www.jmss.org/2008/winter/articles/scott.pdf
Quite informative
niteshkjain
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Check this one
Finally Indian designers are coming of age. Hope we will see more indigenous systems soon in our armed forces
Link: http://www.business-standard.com/common/news_article.php?autono=320123&leftnm=1&subLeft=0&chkFlg=
World-class warships at Indian prices
INDIAN NAVY: GLOBAL & LOCAL - I
Ajai Shukla / New Delhi April 15, 2008
Kailash Colony market, a middle-class shopping area in south Delhi, is an unlikely headquarters for one of the world’s most successful warship design programmes.
A single armed sentry post and a strand of barbed wire atop the boundary walls are all that hint at an ultra high-security installation — the Directorate General of Naval Design (DGND) — that has fathered battleships like the INS Mumbai, which turned heads across the globe when it sailed into war-torn Beirut in 2006 to evacuate hundreds of Indians stranded by Israel’s attack on Lebanon.
Rear Admiral MK Badhwar, the navy’s design chief, explains how the navy got so far ahead of the army and air force in indigenising its weaponry. Shaken by the 1962 defeat at the hands of China, the army and the air force gratefully bought military equipment from whoever was willing to sell.
In contrast, India’s tiny navy took the far-sighted decision to build, rather than buy, its fleet. Today, the army and the air force are playing catch-up; latecomers to indigenisation, they are struggling with a technological leapfrog; attempting cutting-edge platforms like the Arjun tank and the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) without having first designed simpler weaponry.
The navy, in contrast, learned to walk before it tried to run. Starting with small landing craft in the 1960s, the learning curve rose through the increasingly complex design milestones of the Godavari class, the Brahmaputra class and the Khukri class frigates.
The first big DGND triumph came in the late 1990s, with the muscular 6,700-tonne Delhi class destroyers. Later this year, when INS Shivalik — the first of three 4,800-tonne stealth frigates — sails out of Mumbai’s Mazagon Docks Ltd (MDL) to join the Indian Navy, it will feature in defence journals as one of the world’s cutting-edge warships.
India hasn’t just learned to build world-class warships; it has also learned to make them incredibly cheaply. The three Project 17 stealth frigates being built at MDL — INS Shivalik, INS Satpura and INS Sahyadri — will each cost Rs 2,600 crore (US $650 million).
The three Project 15-A Kolkata-class destroyers, bigger and more heavily armed warships, will each cost the navy Rs 3,800 crore (US $950 million), including the cost of long-term spare parts.
How does that compare with buying a warship in the global market? Ask Australia, which is buying three destroyers from Spanish shipyard, Navantia.
The three 6,250-tonne destroyers, fitted with the hot-selling Aegis radar and fire control system, will set Australia back by Rs 32,000 crore (US $8 billion). At about Rs 11,000 crore per destroyer, that is almost three times the cost India is paying for its Kolkata-class destroyers.
Despite paying a fraction of the cost, says Admiral Badhwar, the Kolkata class is the more powerful battleship. He points out: “Other than (the Aegis radar), the Australian warship doesn’t have much…. We have got much more packed into the Kolkata-class destroyer.
The price tag is inclusive of all weapons systems, and it is a fixed price.” Sceptics of India’s warship-building capability point out, with some justification, that India’s designs borrow substantially from Russian and even western warships.
Without denying the Russian influence on India’s design philosophy, Admiral Badhwar points out, “The Project 15-A is about 90 per cent indigenous by cost. We may have to buy the odd gun from the US, or radar from Russia. But the design itself is 100 per cent Indian. And tens of thousands of Indians earn their living from building warships.”
India is among a handful of countries which retain full-fledged design departments in naval headquarters, as well as design bureaus in the shipyards that construct the warships.
The DGND, based on the navy’s operational plans, frames the concept and the functions of each warship; the design departments at the shipyards then translate that into a detailed design, and production drawings, from which they actually build the ship.
Most foreign navies have left design work to private contractors because they simply don’t buy enough ships to justify jobs for hundreds of designers. But then few navies are expanding like India’s.
With 37 major warships being inducted over the next 5-7 years, the 500 designers in the DGND will have their hands full, saving India an estimated Rs 2,00,000 crore (US $50 billion) when compared with the cost of acquiring those 37 warships from the international market.
Finally Indian designers are coming of age. Hope we will see more indigenous systems soon in our armed forces
Link: http://www.business-standard.com/common/news_article.php?autono=320123&leftnm=1&subLeft=0&chkFlg=
World-class warships at Indian prices
INDIAN NAVY: GLOBAL & LOCAL - I
Ajai Shukla / New Delhi April 15, 2008
Kailash Colony market, a middle-class shopping area in south Delhi, is an unlikely headquarters for one of the world’s most successful warship design programmes.
A single armed sentry post and a strand of barbed wire atop the boundary walls are all that hint at an ultra high-security installation — the Directorate General of Naval Design (DGND) — that has fathered battleships like the INS Mumbai, which turned heads across the globe when it sailed into war-torn Beirut in 2006 to evacuate hundreds of Indians stranded by Israel’s attack on Lebanon.
Rear Admiral MK Badhwar, the navy’s design chief, explains how the navy got so far ahead of the army and air force in indigenising its weaponry. Shaken by the 1962 defeat at the hands of China, the army and the air force gratefully bought military equipment from whoever was willing to sell.
In contrast, India’s tiny navy took the far-sighted decision to build, rather than buy, its fleet. Today, the army and the air force are playing catch-up; latecomers to indigenisation, they are struggling with a technological leapfrog; attempting cutting-edge platforms like the Arjun tank and the Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA) without having first designed simpler weaponry.
The navy, in contrast, learned to walk before it tried to run. Starting with small landing craft in the 1960s, the learning curve rose through the increasingly complex design milestones of the Godavari class, the Brahmaputra class and the Khukri class frigates.
The first big DGND triumph came in the late 1990s, with the muscular 6,700-tonne Delhi class destroyers. Later this year, when INS Shivalik — the first of three 4,800-tonne stealth frigates — sails out of Mumbai’s Mazagon Docks Ltd (MDL) to join the Indian Navy, it will feature in defence journals as one of the world’s cutting-edge warships.
India hasn’t just learned to build world-class warships; it has also learned to make them incredibly cheaply. The three Project 17 stealth frigates being built at MDL — INS Shivalik, INS Satpura and INS Sahyadri — will each cost Rs 2,600 crore (US $650 million).
The three Project 15-A Kolkata-class destroyers, bigger and more heavily armed warships, will each cost the navy Rs 3,800 crore (US $950 million), including the cost of long-term spare parts.
How does that compare with buying a warship in the global market? Ask Australia, which is buying three destroyers from Spanish shipyard, Navantia.
The three 6,250-tonne destroyers, fitted with the hot-selling Aegis radar and fire control system, will set Australia back by Rs 32,000 crore (US $8 billion). At about Rs 11,000 crore per destroyer, that is almost three times the cost India is paying for its Kolkata-class destroyers.
Despite paying a fraction of the cost, says Admiral Badhwar, the Kolkata class is the more powerful battleship. He points out: “Other than (the Aegis radar), the Australian warship doesn’t have much…. We have got much more packed into the Kolkata-class destroyer.
The price tag is inclusive of all weapons systems, and it is a fixed price.” Sceptics of India’s warship-building capability point out, with some justification, that India’s designs borrow substantially from Russian and even western warships.
Without denying the Russian influence on India’s design philosophy, Admiral Badhwar points out, “The Project 15-A is about 90 per cent indigenous by cost. We may have to buy the odd gun from the US, or radar from Russia. But the design itself is 100 per cent Indian. And tens of thousands of Indians earn their living from building warships.”
India is among a handful of countries which retain full-fledged design departments in naval headquarters, as well as design bureaus in the shipyards that construct the warships.
The DGND, based on the navy’s operational plans, frames the concept and the functions of each warship; the design departments at the shipyards then translate that into a detailed design, and production drawings, from which they actually build the ship.
Most foreign navies have left design work to private contractors because they simply don’t buy enough ships to justify jobs for hundreds of designers. But then few navies are expanding like India’s.
With 37 major warships being inducted over the next 5-7 years, the 500 designers in the DGND will have their hands full, saving India an estimated Rs 2,00,000 crore (US $50 billion) when compared with the cost of acquiring those 37 warships from the international market.
Well thats wrong. Australia is building a somewhat modified spanish design in Australia. The ships would have been heaps cheaper if built in spain. Australia is not trying to build them cheap, it wants to build a very effective ship for its navy and support its own very effective and unique defence industry.
Aegis SM-2, harpoon, SM-3 and SM-6 (likely) and possibly tomahawk are pretty big draw cards. It will give Australia ships that can down just about anything out there including low orbit sats or long range land strikes (if such missiles are required). Aegis is a huge adavantage (and a huge cost). Given that most of the info about the AWD has not been released its a bit premature to judge them.
It also allows Australia to task together its own battle group or join another group from partner nations like the US and the UK.
I find it interesting that they have used Australia as a benchmark. Australia is never going have the sort of vibrant and healthy shipbuilding industry a 1 billion + population country can afford.
But I do see Australia and India doing simular work on partnering and improving existing systems from a major power. The Indians work on improving/adapting Russian technologies while Australia works mostly on US systems.
niteshkjain
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India’s L&T unveils plans for US$750 million shipyard complex
Wednesday, Apr 16, 2008
Indian engineering and construction giant Larsen & Toubro has selected the site for a Rs. 3,000 crore ($750 million) shipyard and port complex that, it says, will to bridge the gap between India’s shipbuilding industry and that in developed countries, and result in a “paradigm shift” in India’s shipbuilding capabilities.
Today, L&T inked a joint venture agreement with the Tamil Nadu Industrial Development Corporation Ltd (TIDCO) that will see the complex set up at Kattupalli village, near Ennore in Tiruvallur District of Tamil Nadu.
A feasibility report has been completed. Evironment studies are in progress. Construction is set to start by the end of 2008, and the project is expected be completed in 24 months.
The proposed complex will be able to build commercial ships such as Very Large Cargo Carriers, specialized cargo ships for liquid / gas transportation and cruise vessels. It will also have the capability to build vessels for the defense sector, offshore platforms and FPSO’s.
The shipyard will also have the facilities for refitting and re-engineering of commercial and defense vessels, and heavy engineering fabrication and components production for ship building purposes.
The shipyard complex will promote several ancillary units for manufacture of components and spares not only for its own use but for export. When operational, the shipyard will become a nucleus for the heavy engineering industry (for fabrications and components manufacturing).
L&T says it selected the Tamil Nadu site for this project based on its suitability, the investor friendly policies of the Tamil Nadu Govt. and the availability of large pool of technically qualified and skilled manpower in the state. This project has significant employment potential.
The Larsen & Toubro Group is a USD 7 billion technology, engineering and construction company, with global operations. It is one of the largest and most respected companies in India’s private sector.
Link: http://www.yourindustrynews.com/blog/?p=948
Wednesday, Apr 16, 2008
Indian engineering and construction giant Larsen & Toubro has selected the site for a Rs. 3,000 crore ($750 million) shipyard and port complex that, it says, will to bridge the gap between India’s shipbuilding industry and that in developed countries, and result in a “paradigm shift” in India’s shipbuilding capabilities.
Today, L&T inked a joint venture agreement with the Tamil Nadu Industrial Development Corporation Ltd (TIDCO) that will see the complex set up at Kattupalli village, near Ennore in Tiruvallur District of Tamil Nadu.
A feasibility report has been completed. Evironment studies are in progress. Construction is set to start by the end of 2008, and the project is expected be completed in 24 months.
The proposed complex will be able to build commercial ships such as Very Large Cargo Carriers, specialized cargo ships for liquid / gas transportation and cruise vessels. It will also have the capability to build vessels for the defense sector, offshore platforms and FPSO’s.
The shipyard will also have the facilities for refitting and re-engineering of commercial and defense vessels, and heavy engineering fabrication and components production for ship building purposes.
The shipyard complex will promote several ancillary units for manufacture of components and spares not only for its own use but for export. When operational, the shipyard will become a nucleus for the heavy engineering industry (for fabrications and components manufacturing).
L&T says it selected the Tamil Nadu site for this project based on its suitability, the investor friendly policies of the Tamil Nadu Govt. and the availability of large pool of technically qualified and skilled manpower in the state. This project has significant employment potential.
The Larsen & Toubro Group is a USD 7 billion technology, engineering and construction company, with global operations. It is one of the largest and most respected companies in India’s private sector.
Link: http://www.yourindustrynews.com/blog/?p=948
niteshkjain
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Ship-handling simulator installed
Visakhapatnam, April 16
A ship-handling simulator was inaugurated at the maritime welfare centre in the Eastern Naval Command here on Wednesday by Vice-Admiral Raman Prem Suthan, the Flag Officer Commanding-in-Chief. According to a press release issued by the ENC, the simulator will be used to train naval officers in the complex procedures of entering and leaving different harbours in the country. Major harbours and different types of ships currently deployed with the Navy have been replicated in the simulator.
The release adds that it is a modern equipment indigenously developed and installed by Applied Research International of New Delhi. It is one of a series of simulators being procured by the Navy for imparting quality training to the personnel.
Link:http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2008/04/17/stories/2008041751542100.htm
Visakhapatnam, April 16
A ship-handling simulator was inaugurated at the maritime welfare centre in the Eastern Naval Command here on Wednesday by Vice-Admiral Raman Prem Suthan, the Flag Officer Commanding-in-Chief. According to a press release issued by the ENC, the simulator will be used to train naval officers in the complex procedures of entering and leaving different harbours in the country. Major harbours and different types of ships currently deployed with the Navy have been replicated in the simulator.
The release adds that it is a modern equipment indigenously developed and installed by Applied Research International of New Delhi. It is one of a series of simulators being procured by the Navy for imparting quality training to the personnel.
Link:http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2008/04/17/stories/2008041751542100.htm
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Indian Sea Harrier Tests BVR Missile
By VIVEK RAGHUVANSHI
Published: 16 Apr 11:09 EDT (07:09 GMT) PRINT | EMAIL
NEW DELHI - Operating in the Indian Ocean off the coast of Goa last week, an Indian navy Sea Harrier test-fired a Derby beyond-visual-range (BVR) missile.
It was the Navy's first live test of the Israeli-made Derby, a senior service official said April 15, and two more live tests are planned in the near future.
Indian navy sources said the missile hit its target on the high seas from a distance of 20 kilometers at a speed of Mach 1.2 and was able to lock onto the target before launch.
The Indian navy signed a $25 million contract in 2005 with the missile's maker, Rafael, for procurement of 20 Derby missiles to replace aging Sea Eagle missiles bought from BAE Systems in the early 1980s.
Meanwhile, India's state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics is upgrading the Navy's 15 Sea Harrier jump jets, purchased from BAE in 1983, under a $115 million contract. The upgraded aircraft will be armed with the Derby BVR missile.
The Sea Harriers were set to be retired along with the aircraft carrier INS Viraat in 2010, the Navy official said, but this upgrade will keep the planes in service for deployment on the planned Air Defense Ship.
Link:http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=3480072&c=ASI&s=AIR
By VIVEK RAGHUVANSHI
Published: 16 Apr 11:09 EDT (07:09 GMT) PRINT | EMAIL
NEW DELHI - Operating in the Indian Ocean off the coast of Goa last week, an Indian navy Sea Harrier test-fired a Derby beyond-visual-range (BVR) missile.
It was the Navy's first live test of the Israeli-made Derby, a senior service official said April 15, and two more live tests are planned in the near future.
Indian navy sources said the missile hit its target on the high seas from a distance of 20 kilometers at a speed of Mach 1.2 and was able to lock onto the target before launch.
The Indian navy signed a $25 million contract in 2005 with the missile's maker, Rafael, for procurement of 20 Derby missiles to replace aging Sea Eagle missiles bought from BAE Systems in the early 1980s.
Meanwhile, India's state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics is upgrading the Navy's 15 Sea Harrier jump jets, purchased from BAE in 1983, under a $115 million contract. The upgraded aircraft will be armed with the Derby BVR missile.
The Sea Harriers were set to be retired along with the aircraft carrier INS Viraat in 2010, the Navy official said, but this upgrade will keep the planes in service for deployment on the planned Air Defense Ship.
Link:http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=3480072&c=ASI&s=AIR
The Derby is a BVR AAM whilst the Sea Eagle is an air-launched anti-ship missile. Someone was mis-informed.
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Centre admits to problems in naval deals
Sandeep Dikshit
Admiral Gorshkov has run into time and cost overruns
Russians seek
$900 million more
for Gorshkov
NEW DELHI: The government admitted in Parliament on Wednesday that several naval deals, including ones with the United States and Russia for warships, were facing rough weather.
While the U.S. amphibious assault ship, ‘USS Trenton’ was purchased merely after a “visual inspection,” the modernisation of the Russian aircraft carrier, ‘Admiral Gorshkov,’ has run into time and cost overruns.
Though Trenton encountered time and cost overrun problems, the difference was not as huge as in the case of Gorshkov. In case of the Trenton, the delay was of six months and the cost overrun amounted to about $5 million. But for Gorshkov, the Russians are seeking an additional $900 million and the ship is likely to be delayed by four years. The Trenton has since been renamed ‘INS Jalashwa’ while the Gorshkov will be known as ‘INS Vikramaditya.’
Replying to a question in the Rajya Sabha, Defence Minister A. K. Antony admitted that the American ship was not only bought after a “joint visual inspection” but was 36 years old and the Navy has assessed its residual life to be above 10 years.
In case of the Gorshkov, the Parliamentary Standing Committee on Defence noted that the delays have been caused because of change in scope of work. “The deal appears to have become fait accompli with little scope of effecting economy,” said its report, adding that instead of three aircraft carriers, India had just one. Even this was to be retired this year when the Gorshkov was expected to arrive. But the sole functioning aircraft carrier would have to be pressed into service for another four years till the Gorshkov is modernised and trials held on the high seas. For Gorshkov, the Russians are seeking an additional $900 million and the ship is likely to be delayed by four years.
But a recent report by the Comptroller and Auditor General of India (CAG) went beyond the usual time and cost wrangles in case of naval projects by noting that in case of the U.S. ship, “restrictive clauses raise doubts about the real advantages from this deal. For example, there are restrictions on the offensive deployment of the ship and permission would be given to foreign government [the U.S.] to conduct an inspection and inventory of all articles transferred under the end-use monitoring clause of the Letter of Agreement. Given that the ship is of old vintage, Indian Navy would remain dependent upon foreign-based support.” However, a U.S. officially recently refuted these observations.
Undecided
The purchase of another urgently required piece of naval hardware — deep submergence rescue vehicles (DSRV) — has remained undecided after six years.
The ships would be utilised to rescue sailors trapped in a sunken submarine. In its absence, 118 Russian naval personnel met a slow and agonising death after their submarine Kursk sank in the Barents Sea in 2000.
Diving support
The Indian Navy presently operates a diving support vessel which uses a rescue bell to rescue personnel from a submarine in distress. But the bell has depth limitations. As an alternative till the DSRVs are inducted,
India has tie-ups with an advanced navy to provide urgent assistance in case of a mishap. The Navy has 16 submarines and according to a CAG report, the overall operational percentage is dismal mainly because of the age of part of the fleet.
Link: http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=9959
Sandeep Dikshit
Admiral Gorshkov has run into time and cost overruns
Russians seek
$900 million more
for Gorshkov
NEW DELHI: The government admitted in Parliament on Wednesday that several naval deals, including ones with the United States and Russia for warships, were facing rough weather.
While the U.S. amphibious assault ship, ‘USS Trenton’ was purchased merely after a “visual inspection,” the modernisation of the Russian aircraft carrier, ‘Admiral Gorshkov,’ has run into time and cost overruns.
Though Trenton encountered time and cost overrun problems, the difference was not as huge as in the case of Gorshkov. In case of the Trenton, the delay was of six months and the cost overrun amounted to about $5 million. But for Gorshkov, the Russians are seeking an additional $900 million and the ship is likely to be delayed by four years. The Trenton has since been renamed ‘INS Jalashwa’ while the Gorshkov will be known as ‘INS Vikramaditya.’
Replying to a question in the Rajya Sabha, Defence Minister A. K. Antony admitted that the American ship was not only bought after a “joint visual inspection” but was 36 years old and the Navy has assessed its residual life to be above 10 years.
In case of the Gorshkov, the Parliamentary Standing Committee on Defence noted that the delays have been caused because of change in scope of work. “The deal appears to have become fait accompli with little scope of effecting economy,” said its report, adding that instead of three aircraft carriers, India had just one. Even this was to be retired this year when the Gorshkov was expected to arrive. But the sole functioning aircraft carrier would have to be pressed into service for another four years till the Gorshkov is modernised and trials held on the high seas. For Gorshkov, the Russians are seeking an additional $900 million and the ship is likely to be delayed by four years.
But a recent report by the Comptroller and Auditor General of India (CAG) went beyond the usual time and cost wrangles in case of naval projects by noting that in case of the U.S. ship, “restrictive clauses raise doubts about the real advantages from this deal. For example, there are restrictions on the offensive deployment of the ship and permission would be given to foreign government [the U.S.] to conduct an inspection and inventory of all articles transferred under the end-use monitoring clause of the Letter of Agreement. Given that the ship is of old vintage, Indian Navy would remain dependent upon foreign-based support.” However, a U.S. officially recently refuted these observations.
Undecided
The purchase of another urgently required piece of naval hardware — deep submergence rescue vehicles (DSRV) — has remained undecided after six years.
The ships would be utilised to rescue sailors trapped in a sunken submarine. In its absence, 118 Russian naval personnel met a slow and agonising death after their submarine Kursk sank in the Barents Sea in 2000.
Diving support
The Indian Navy presently operates a diving support vessel which uses a rescue bell to rescue personnel from a submarine in distress. But the bell has depth limitations. As an alternative till the DSRVs are inducted,
India has tie-ups with an advanced navy to provide urgent assistance in case of a mishap. The Navy has 16 submarines and according to a CAG report, the overall operational percentage is dismal mainly because of the age of part of the fleet.
Link: http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/NEWS/newsrf.php?newsid=9959
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