new war game. world war 3?
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I am interested to know what the reactions from the great powers would be in asymetrical warfare moves by their opponents.For example what would happen if Greece used radical elements of the greek minority of southern Albania to declare independence and those elements strike at NATO forces in Albania and FYROM.The USA could support the Chechen rebels with ammo,weapons and with real time information for russian movements.Iran can support a full engagement of Iraqi rebels against american forces.And two great what ifs... what if India in fear of being surrounded by China and Pakistan sends troops,ships,and airplanes in Vietnam a long time adversary of China. what if the russian use greek owned merchant ships for the covert transportation of forces and equipment in Cuba.?
PullerRommel
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**Secret Serbian Rearmamnet**
In the North of Serbia in a heavily wooded region south of Ada, remaining military elements and consrcipts numbering close to 800,000 begin to be rearmed with new Russian weapons transported through thickly wooded roads.
Around 2 dozen fighter pilots are also transported into Russia to quickly acclimate themselves to new SU-30.
400,000 men in the newly named and formed Fatherland Freedom Army marches towards Kosovo to avoid detection they take extreme measures and move in small bands through woods.
The remaining men are also formed and named into the 2nd Fatherland Freedom Army they are on a warpath south to reach Macedonia they take the same precautions the others take.**
In the North of Serbia in a heavily wooded region south of Ada, remaining military elements and consrcipts numbering close to 800,000 begin to be rearmed with new Russian weapons transported through thickly wooded roads.
Around 2 dozen fighter pilots are also transported into Russia to quickly acclimate themselves to new SU-30.
400,000 men in the newly named and formed Fatherland Freedom Army marches towards Kosovo to avoid detection they take extreme measures and move in small bands through woods.
The remaining men are also formed and named into the 2nd Fatherland Freedom Army they are on a warpath south to reach Macedonia they take the same precautions the others take.**
Low-intensity proxy wars always have one, big downside - other side can answer pretty symmetrically
Ofc, some countries have it easer than others - f.e. most european countries are not really involved in any conflict, so they are pretty much invulnerable to that kind of warfare. But USA have Iraq and some other places, Pakistan also. China is again dont have any hot conflict right now, so is invulnerable.
Vietnam is just normal country now and will not serve as "proxy" just to please India or Pakistan. No hot conflict there currently.
BTW, i doubt USA can find something what Chechens dont have already ') And even more doubt USA can find a way to supply them - borders are pretty well guarded.
So, obviously, the most vulnerable countries to that kind of warfare are ones involved in hot conflicts. Of major players only USA, GB and Israel qualify - so, they are most vulnerable.
How they react - you can see at the example of USA - Iran relation.
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Its difficult to following but interesting at the same time.
To me to keep something like this interesting you can't let the US bring it's might against one or two target areas. Another point not covered is the means for a lot of these counties to fight this long and move forces in a battle area. For example the Serb region the main fighting would have been over by now. 90% of military equipment would have destroyed. The Greece's taking on the US and I think NATO fleet, wow that's big just by itself. Then Turkey and Greece going at it nothing much would be going on until that fighting ended. The entire region would be effected not to mention the whole Med as well. I think even US war stores would be low at this point. Leaving out northern Africa is one of the keys to controlling the Med. Maybe having Venezuela and Ecuador make a grab for Colombia while the US is everywhere fighting wouldn't be too far off. Involved Nicaragua a little to stir things up for the US nearby. Once US brings there weapons to bare in a full no hold barn type fighting it's difficult to last. You make it so US forces are so thinly deployed and spread out that they can't focus there might.
Its difficult to following but interesting at the same time.
To me to keep something like this interesting you can't let the US bring it's might against one or two target areas. Another point not covered is the means for a lot of these counties to fight this long and move forces in a battle area. For example the Serb region the main fighting would have been over by now. 90% of military equipment would have destroyed. The Greece's taking on the US and I think NATO fleet, wow that's big just by itself. Then Turkey and Greece going at it nothing much would be going on until that fighting ended. The entire region would be effected not to mention the whole Med as well. I think even US war stores would be low at this point. Leaving out northern Africa is one of the keys to controlling the Med. Maybe having Venezuela and Ecuador make a grab for Colombia while the US is everywhere fighting wouldn't be too far off. Involved Nicaragua a little to stir things up for the US nearby. Once US brings there weapons to bare in a full no hold barn type fighting it's difficult to last. You make it so US forces are so thinly deployed and spread out that they can't focus there might.
How did Germany's secret initiative to form an anti-Russian aliiance among all the former republics and satelites?
Given the string of events, it ought to be going very well!
Those transports want to land in either Estonia or Latvia, pre-positioning the heavy gear for a Panzer Corps, the personel can be there in a few hours.
Did my recon flight over Kaliningrad stir anything up, or show any interesting activity?
In exchange for a mutual defense pact, will Poland go along with a German grab for that territory? (now is the time!)
All German armed forces are on the highest alert, and all Naval forces are in the Baltic.
One last thing- do any of our contacts in the former republics have any information on how the Russian missle silos can be sabotaged? (such as cutting the power sources for the silo hatches... its always the little things that get over-looked)
Given the string of events, it ought to be going very well!
Those transports want to land in either Estonia or Latvia, pre-positioning the heavy gear for a Panzer Corps, the personel can be there in a few hours.
Did my recon flight over Kaliningrad stir anything up, or show any interesting activity?
In exchange for a mutual defense pact, will Poland go along with a German grab for that territory? (now is the time!)
All German armed forces are on the highest alert, and all Naval forces are in the Baltic.
One last thing- do any of our contacts in the former republics have any information on how the Russian missle silos can be sabotaged? (such as cutting the power sources for the silo hatches... its always the little things that get over-looked)
wyoming cowboy
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Greece and Cyprus initiate their mutual defence treaty and call up reserves in order to counter Turkish armies build up in the Aegean and northern cyprus..Greece calls up 600,000 reservist and active duty personnel. cyprus has in uniform 98000 troops, The attack by the USA fleet at Bosporous against the Greek navy leaves helpless in the Aegean to resupply the islands and Cyprus...The Greek 1st and 2nd armies are moving to the border with Macedonia and Turkey....included are the 5th and 7th armored division based in Salonika..
Secret teletype Greek chief of staff to Greek general in command in Cyprus: Order the Bulk carrier supertankers 4 in all to head towards the southern coast of Cyprus...Initiate all batteries of S-400 missiles positioned on supertankers to attack any Turkish warplanes flying over Cyprus....over...Initiate war plan Aphrodite once the supertankers are in range...over
Greece and Cyprus initiate their mutual defence treaty and call up reserves in order to counter Turkish armies build up in the Aegean and northern cyprus..Greece calls up 600,000 reservist and active duty personnel. cyprus has in uniform 98000 troops, The attack by the USA fleet at Bosporous against the Greek navy leaves helpless in the Aegean to resupply the islands and Cyprus...The Greek 1st and 2nd armies are moving to the border with Macedonia and Turkey....included are the 5th and 7th armored division based in Salonika..
Secret teletype Greek chief of staff to Greek general in command in Cyprus: Order the Bulk carrier supertankers 4 in all to head towards the southern coast of Cyprus...Initiate all batteries of S-400 missiles positioned on supertankers to attack any Turkish warplanes flying over Cyprus....over...Initiate war plan Aphrodite once the supertankers are in range...over
The Chinese Marines manage to capture after little resistance the already empty of MEU Camp Smedley ,and advance to Kadena airbase which is in the same prefecture.The north sea fleet after engaging and defeating the 7th fleet returns to Qingdao naval base for repairs.The undamaged ships and submarines patrol the area.The 16th GA advance to Ckukotka.
wyoming cowboy
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The Greek supertankers with the S-400 anti air batteries are moving in towards the coast of cyprus but still in international waters the lanes south of cyprus are filled with tankers and merchant ships coming and going through the suez canal..the powerful s400 radar systems are employed and well within range of the sky over cyprus..The radar catches 7 turkish c130 cargo planes over cyprus preparing to land with supplies and 5 turkish F-16 escorting the c130s..within minutes the 7 c130-s and 3 out of the 5 f-16-s are blown out of the sky..At the same time the Greek cyp artillery chinese laser guided begin to pound the Turkish maginot line situated atop the mountain range overlooking the Green line which separates the two sections of cyprus, The battlefield will most likely be between the two mountain ranges one in the South and one in the North.
The Greek supertankers with the S-400 anti air batteries are moving in towards the coast of cyprus but still in international waters the lanes south of cyprus are filled with tankers and merchant ships coming and going through the suez canal..the powerful s400 radar systems are employed and well within range of the sky over cyprus..The radar catches 7 turkish c130 cargo planes over cyprus preparing to land with supplies and 5 turkish F-16 escorting the c130s..within minutes the 7 c130-s and 3 out of the 5 f-16-s are blown out of the sky..At the same time the Greek cyp artillery chinese laser guided begin to pound the Turkish maginot line situated atop the mountain range overlooking the Green line which separates the two sections of cyprus, The battlefield will most likely be between the two mountain ranges one in the South and one in the North.
wyoming cowboy
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The Greek artillery batteries situated on the islands just off the coast of Turkey are opening up fire on the only Turkish port in the Aegean in Izmir..S-400 anti air batteries also stationed on Crete and other Greek islands search the sky for Turkish aircraft the Greek air force is held in reserve for now...The 300,000 strong Turkish force in Izmir which had been noticed mobilizing a few days ago is being bombarded with Greek artillery and missiles...The Turkish airforce is mulling risking more F16 after the devastation it suffers over Cyprus..The Greek army at Bosporous is preparing a blitz krig type of offensive against the with its armor and infantry divisions which recently have been mobile with the Leonidas troop carrier..
The Greek artillery batteries situated on the islands just off the coast of Turkey are opening up fire on the only Turkish port in the Aegean in Izmir..S-400 anti air batteries also stationed on Crete and other Greek islands search the sky for Turkish aircraft the Greek air force is held in reserve for now...The 300,000 strong Turkish force in Izmir which had been noticed mobilizing a few days ago is being bombarded with Greek artillery and missiles...The Turkish airforce is mulling risking more F16 after the devastation it suffers over Cyprus..The Greek army at Bosporous is preparing a blitz krig type of offensive against the with its armor and infantry divisions which recently have been mobile with the Leonidas troop carrier..
wyoming cowboy
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The Turkish elite Rangers are on the eastern front in the mountains of northern Iraq and Iran the mostly 300,000 stationed in Izmir are second tier infantry with a few Ranger brigades mixed in..In the Southeastern provinces of Turkey the Kurdish minority is rising up with hit and run attacks on the police and security guards the Turkish Kurds are being provided assistance from the Syrian special forces which number 1500 that had come in once the Greek Turkish war began....
The Turkish elite Rangers are on the eastern front in the mountains of northern Iraq and Iran the mostly 300,000 stationed in Izmir are second tier infantry with a few Ranger brigades mixed in..In the Southeastern provinces of Turkey the Kurdish minority is rising up with hit and run attacks on the police and security guards the Turkish Kurds are being provided assistance from the Syrian special forces which number 1500 that had come in once the Greek Turkish war began....
Ozzy Blizzard
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nfloorl: and reck all the fun?Russia sends the 5th and 8th Russian armys and 2 tank Divisions and 4 artillery Regiments into ukraine the Russian Regiments come from bases in the city of kursk and get to the Broader of ukraine in 3 hours and was stopped by fighting from small ukraine Divisions but the Russians Break though the ukraine Broader and move for the citys of poltava and konotop to support the small Russian force there the 5th army with 1 tank Division and 2 artillery Regiments move for the city of poltava and 8th army moves to the city of konotop with the same things (as the 5th army) but both Russian armys face big battles as there are large AA forces there setting up road blocks and fighting stations to stop the Russian forces meeting up with the smaller forces and small serbia forces already in the ukraine
Khairul Alam
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arent u playing on both sides of the chessboard??
exported_kiwi
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India
I'll play India.
After concluding a nuclear pact with the US, and also following the supply by the US, of C130J and F-16 block 52, India declares for the allies and moves "sizeable" forces to the India-China border. India releases a press statement;
***India deplores the imposition, by force, of any non democratically elected leadership and also any attempt, by force or coersion, to regain territory(ies) that have chosen independance (Kosovo). It is to this effect that we withdraw from the SCO due the the PRC and Russia supporting Serbian moves to impose such force and coersion against Kosovo. We strongly condemn the overtly hostile moves of those countries as well as the PRCs move into US territories as well as Japanese territory. We (India) declare that we, as a democratic nation, will join other free and democratic countries in their struggle for freedom and against any oppressive impositions by any country found to be doing so*** end.
Secret diplomatic moves are made to Pakistan to secure the India-Pakistan border. Pakistan accepts, so far!
Now all I have to do is research India capabilities and TOE.
I'll play India.
After concluding a nuclear pact with the US, and also following the supply by the US, of C130J and F-16 block 52, India declares for the allies and moves "sizeable" forces to the India-China border. India releases a press statement;
***India deplores the imposition, by force, of any non democratically elected leadership and also any attempt, by force or coersion, to regain territory(ies) that have chosen independance (Kosovo). It is to this effect that we withdraw from the SCO due the the PRC and Russia supporting Serbian moves to impose such force and coersion against Kosovo. We strongly condemn the overtly hostile moves of those countries as well as the PRCs move into US territories as well as Japanese territory. We (India) declare that we, as a democratic nation, will join other free and democratic countries in their struggle for freedom and against any oppressive impositions by any country found to be doing so*** end.
Secret diplomatic moves are made to Pakistan to secure the India-Pakistan border. Pakistan accepts, so far!
Now all I have to do is research India capabilities and TOE.
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wyoming cowboy
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Looks like it's time for Germany to occupy Kalliningrad, with the cooperation of Poland.
We will also announce the new alliance of all the Former Soviet Republics, two of which are already under attack. Belaruss is a question mark, but Poland's forces could be sufficient to deal with that.
This new Aliiance should be easy to sell- the recent actions of the US have shown it to be a harmless enamy and a treacherous ally.
Russia, already fighting on two fronts, will now be confronted with the possibility of two more; Not only is a Corps in the Baltic States, ready to begin offensive operations in cooperation with our new Allies.
Since the Ukraine seems to have a problem with Polish armies in thier country, three Heers Corps will go there to bolster Urkanian resistance to the unprovoked hostility of the psycologically un-balanced Putin regime.
Additionaly, GSG-9 commandoes will be sent to the Caucasus, to advise the locals on defense and to just raise hell, generaly.
Things are looking good for us. Would anyone else like to join the only team that is profiting from this situation?
We will also announce the new alliance of all the Former Soviet Republics, two of which are already under attack. Belaruss is a question mark, but Poland's forces could be sufficient to deal with that.
This new Aliiance should be easy to sell- the recent actions of the US have shown it to be a harmless enamy and a treacherous ally.
Russia, already fighting on two fronts, will now be confronted with the possibility of two more; Not only is a Corps in the Baltic States, ready to begin offensive operations in cooperation with our new Allies.
Since the Ukraine seems to have a problem with Polish armies in thier country, three Heers Corps will go there to bolster Urkanian resistance to the unprovoked hostility of the psycologically un-balanced Putin regime.
Additionaly, GSG-9 commandoes will be sent to the Caucasus, to advise the locals on defense and to just raise hell, generaly.
Things are looking good for us. Would anyone else like to join the only team that is profiting from this situation?
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