Why not? They sell them to Turkey.
JF-17 Thunder / FC-1 / Super-7 Discussions
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great point !!
also off late israel has bacome very cozy with pakistan.
chances of weapons exports are pretty high.
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the 5th prototype of the thunder has achieved a maximum speed of MACH-2.14
wikipedia is a good source .
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According to wiki, 5th prototype is for static ground testing? How fast can "static" goes?
Rather different. Turkey is avowedly secular (despite being mainly Muslim), sits the other side of Syria, is inimical to it, is generally viewed with suspicion or dislike by Arab states, for historical reasons, & has a long history of mutually beneficial co-operation with Israel.
Pakistan is an officially Muslim state, founded specifically to provide a homeland for Muslims, has a long tradition of military co-operation with Arab states, & has lent pilots to Arab air forces fighting Israel. It is also one of the two significant enemies of India, which is probably the biggest customer for Israeli weapons.
Now please explain the similarity.
Israel may sell weapon to Pakistan, if Pakistan recognize israel. i remember reading somewhere, when Pakistan cried over the sale of phalcon system to india. The position of israel was that they are ready to sell the same equipment to Pakistan and want friendly relations with the country as both countries dont have anything against eachother.
cant find the link rite now so you are all allowed to regard my post as baseless
cant find the link rite now so you are all allowed to regard my post as baseless
The radar is not being offered to Pakistan but China, to be used on PLAAF fleet & the aircrafts sold to Israel friendly countries. Pakistan would have to rely on Chinese radar initially than perhaps shift to European.
Wikipedia is the least reliable source. Anyone can just come & edit it.nero said:
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this is all really good with development of the JF-17 and stuff... but i was wondering from strategical point of view that with the induction of Patriot missiles in the Indian millitary, wont the Indians be able to shoot our plane down without any difficulty.
After all the Jf-17 is also a strike fighter, and in todays world havnt we learnt that all out war between countries is hardly possible. Future wars will be fought
in way of tactical covert strikes on enemy territory and since firing a missile is sort of a give away and much too dangerous since it risks open war not to mention the very real possibilty of the enemy assuming a nuclear threat. So we will therefor have to use the JF-17s for these strike mitions(if the nead arises) and hence the possibilty of a JF-17 Vs Patriot Missile.
Not that i mean any disrespect to the men and women who have worked so hard to make this project a success. Can anyone please explain the strategic wisdom behind this programme.
this is all really good with development of the JF-17 and stuff... but i was wondering from strategical point of view that with the induction of Patriot missiles in the Indian millitary, wont the Indians be able to shoot our plane down without any difficulty.
After all the Jf-17 is also a strike fighter, and in todays world havnt we learnt that all out war between countries is hardly possible. Future wars will be fought
in way of tactical covert strikes on enemy territory and since firing a missile is sort of a give away and much too dangerous since it risks open war not to mention the very real possibilty of the enemy assuming a nuclear threat. So we will therefor have to use the JF-17s for these strike mitions(if the nead arises) and hence the possibilty of a JF-17 Vs Patriot Missile.
Not that i mean any disrespect to the men and women who have worked so hard to make this project a success. Can anyone please explain the strategic wisdom behind this programme.
JF-17 is a point defence AC, PAF doctrine is to safegaurd their sky.... so Patriot have little to do here.
On your other pondering......strategic wisdom of development of JF-17, Am still listening that F-22 have 140-0 Kill ratio.........does the wisdom suggest in development/Acquisation of Typhoon, rafale, Sicko-30 by any country for its defence?
On your other pondering......strategic wisdom of development of JF-17, Am still listening that F-22 have 140-0 Kill ratio.........does the wisdom suggest in development/Acquisation of Typhoon, rafale, Sicko-30 by any country for its defence?
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pakistan is pressing for the AN/ALQ-184 Electronic Attack Pod which can jam frequenciies.
As of now no indian airdefence is capable enough to shoot down the JF-17.
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OMG cannot belive some of these post I am reading from this thread Wikipedia a good source of military information? It is the worst source of military information to be honest. And with the JF-17 achiving Mach 2+ I would like to see some credible information about this otherwise through all my knowledge the JF-17 with its current engine siz can only hit little bit under Mach 2 but not over.
Sorry to say buddy but yes India airforce can shoot down JF-17 despite its jamming pod. India Su30MKI flanker is quite capable of this, despite its shorter engine life than other flankers.
Sorry to say buddy but yes India airforce can shoot down JF-17 despite its jamming pod. India Su30MKI flanker is quite capable of this, despite its shorter engine life than other flankers.
BlahBlahBlah1
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Wikipedia mostly copies sources from other websites and/or posts on forums like this one.
windscorpion
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Well actually Wikipedia doesn't do anything, anyone can edit a Wikipedia article.
BlahBlahBlah1
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Yes they can...just like anyone can register and post on forums like this one. But on Wikipedia, posts that are pranks gets erased really, really quick...try it yourself.
Aliph Ahmed
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Interview of Chief Project Director: JF-17
Air Chief Marshal Farhat Hussein.
• Talks about Pakistan initiating production starting from both wings, vertical tail and fuselage
• Two factories will undertake the manufacturing: one will undertake manufacturing the frame and the other towards manufacturing the avionics
• Emphasises the need on self reliance
• 250 JF-17s will be procured.
• Praises the taller then Himalaya mountain friendship between China and Pakistan.
[ame="http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=i6Rcf2PKkxc"]http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=i6Rcf2PKkxc[/ame]
Air Chief Marshal Farhat Hussein.
• Talks about Pakistan initiating production starting from both wings, vertical tail and fuselage
• Two factories will undertake the manufacturing: one will undertake manufacturing the frame and the other towards manufacturing the avionics
• Emphasises the need on self reliance
• 250 JF-17s will be procured.
• Praises the taller then Himalaya mountain friendship between China and Pakistan.
[ame="http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=i6Rcf2PKkxc"]http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=i6Rcf2PKkxc[/ame]
Aliph Ahmed
Banned Member
Air Chief Marshall Tanveer Mehmood.
Interview on inaugerating the JF-17 factory
• 50-60% airframe will be manufactured in Pakistan
• 70-80% avionics will be manufactured in Pakistan
• JF-17 is also a high tech plane and comparable to latest modern planes
• Avionics will be of the same class as of Eurofighter. Difference will be of 18-19*. (Pakistani slang word used for minimal)
• Hard points to be increased from 7 to 9.
• Full Fly by wire.
• Will be capable of deploying all types of munitions carried by latest planes.
• One squadron (8-10) will be operationally inducted by the end of 2008.
[ame="http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=aTY2L6P9Aa0&feature=related"]http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=aTY2L6P9Aa0&feature=related[/ame]
Interview on inaugerating the JF-17 factory
• 50-60% airframe will be manufactured in Pakistan
• 70-80% avionics will be manufactured in Pakistan
• JF-17 is also a high tech plane and comparable to latest modern planes
• Avionics will be of the same class as of Eurofighter. Difference will be of 18-19*. (Pakistani slang word used for minimal)
• Hard points to be increased from 7 to 9.
• Full Fly by wire.
• Will be capable of deploying all types of munitions carried by latest planes.
• One squadron (8-10) will be operationally inducted by the end of 2008.
[ame="http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=aTY2L6P9Aa0&feature=related"]http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=aTY2L6P9Aa0&feature=related[/ame]
Aliph Ahmed
Banned Member
Beats me too on what exaclty he meant by avionics being in the same class as of being on Eurofighter.
He must know of something which we dont.
On the sidenote: Pakistan has taken delivery of all 6 JF-17s. Currently, there are 8 JF-17s in Pakistan.
Order of delivery was 2 (last year)+ 3+ 1+ 2 as per Pakdef.
Aliph Ahmed
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http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/slideshow/photo//080314/481/6be2103348a54e17a4c506e0014478bd/
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As of now, PAF has taken delivery of 8 JF-17s which will form an operational squadron by the year end 2008.
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As of now, PAF has taken delivery of 8 JF-17s which will form an operational squadron by the year end 2008.
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