Saudi Arabia may Order 24 more Typhoons

[eaf-f16]

No the RSAF never received any A/B just C/D from 1986 if I remember right.

If they received them on 1986 then what on earth would make RSAF want to replace them?

I think they are buying more to replace more of their Tornado's not their F-15's. I maybe wrong...

 

[Scorpion82]

If they received them on 1986 then what on earth would make RSAF want to replace them?

I think they are buying more to replace more of their Tornado's not their F-15's. I maybe wrong...

Because 20 years old aircraft are hardly new and need to be replaced in the not to distant future. BTW the RSAF just bought a limited number of Tornado ADV (AFAIK just 24 aircraft).

 

[SaudiArabian]

they were received in 1982

several F-15C's have crashed , current F-15C's flight hours are huge and its probably gonna pass its lifetime (if it didn't already!) , very few F-15S's are in hangars , one F-15S crashed and one is damaged

these planes might need replacement for their position , and if the replacement is by the Typhoons then i find it better and excellent choice because it moves Saudi Air Force away from the US and the complications of its congress and israeli lobby to the opened European neutral market

the F-5's are now for sale at 1.5 million$/plane , some of them are sold to Brazil while there's been news about Kenya and Mexico to buy some. few F-5's are still at service in Taif as last i know about.

advanced MIG-29 , MIG-35 or SU-(of any new kind) option would be an excellent strategic choice (after what recently happened in the Congress by stalling the 20 Billion $ deal by israel lobby) and will secure the Kingdom against external pressure BUT technicaly its a terrible choice because it will damage the capability , experience and training of the RSAF and will cost much more money that damages the KSA's economy.

 

[swerve]

If they received them on 1986 then what on earth would make RSAF want to replace them?

I think they are buying more to replace more of their Tornado's not their F-15's. I maybe wrong...

The newest F-15C is over 20 years old. The first was delivered in 1981, & I think the last in 1986. By the time they could begin replacing them (the Typhoons will replace the Tornado ADV initially), they'll be between 25 & 30 years old.

The Tornado IDS are undergoing an upgrade, including the integration of new weapons. The aircraft sent to the UK for development of the upgrade have been seen flying with Storm Shadows. I don't think they'll be replaced for a while.

I presume the F-15S is not scheduled for replacement yet. They were delivered in the 1990s, & are the newest type in service at the moment.

 

[Scorpion82]

Yes I have to correct my statement, Swerve is right the first example was delivered in 1981. The RSAF additionally received some new aircraft and some used after Operation Desert Storm.

 

[eaf-f16]

The newest F-15C is over 20 years old. The first was delivered in 1981, & I think the last in 1986. By the time they could begin replacing them (the Typhoons will replace the Tornado ADV initially), they'll be between 25 & 30 years old.

The Tornado IDS are undergoing an upgrade, including the integration of new weapons. The aircraft sent to the UK for development of the upgrade have been seen flying with Storm Shadows. I don't think they'll be replaced for a while.

I presume the F-15S is not scheduled for replacement yet. They were delivered in the 1990s, & are the newest type in service at the moment.

Oh, I see...

I wonder if any IAF F-15's are going to be retired soon. They have some of the older A/B models and I think they got their F-15's before Saudi did.

This may have been asked before but are Saudi Typhoons going to be British air-air missiles (ASRAAM, Meteor) or US-made ones (AIM-9X, AIM-120)?

 

[harryriedl]

Oh, I see...

I wonder if any IAF F-15's are going to be retired soon. They have some of the older A/B models and I think they got their F-15's before Saudi did.

This may have been asked before but are Saudi Typhoons going to be British air-air missiles (ASRAAM, Meteor) or US-made ones (AIM-9X, AIM-120)?

ASRAAM's a cert as its being integrated on the Tornadoes[the Saudi upgrades not the RAF planes] so it will be on the Typhoons i presumes sauid will be in on METEOR but don't know for sure

 

[eaf-f16]

And another one bites the dust...

Back to topic.

I found the question of eaf-f16 rather interesting.
Are there plans in the IAF to upgrade the current fleet (Besides the possible F-35 purchase)?

Apparently, there is. And like I said with AESA radars.

Tied closely to the F-35 procurement is a decision to upgrade the F-15s and F-16s, particularly with new AESA radars that offer more range, small-target detection and broadband communications. However, the advanced radars are expensive.

Here is the article:http://www.aviationweek.com/aw/generic/story_channel.jsp?channel=defense&id=news/aw121707p1.xml&headline=Israel%20Wants%20JSF%20As%20Soon%20As%20Possible